Why Trends matter and why they are not cherry-picking
As bad as the Dodgers are playing right now (before Monday), they are still in the Divisional driver’s seat. They now have an 8.0 game lead over San Diego with 36 to play. So why are many fans down (not panicking) with the Dodgers? Trends. It is not cherry-picking stats. It is looking at how the team is playing lately and postulating future results. Trends are measured in every facet of our lives. From sports, to health, to finance, to education…Of course you can pick and choose a specific trend to justify a position. But when multiple trends tend to tip the scales downward or upward, sometimes you need to pull the ostrich head out of the ground and look at what is happening.
Trends are important to foster adjustments to move a downward trend into an upward trend. In a sports world, teams that ignore the trends, and not look for adjustments may live to regret it.
With respect to the Dodgers, I do not care that they are the 2-time defending champion as it relates to THIS year. How do you fix how they are playing now? Some will say, do nothing. They are the 2-time defending champion and they will win when it counts.
I can understand that take when it comes to pitching. The pitching is going to get better. Tyler Glasnow will be back after one more rehab start. Ohtani is working on getting back. Roki Sasaki and Eric Lauer will be moved to the bullpen.
We have no idea how inured Justin Wrobleski is, but he will not be returning to the rotation when (if) he gets back. The current injury report has him returning in September. Are Bobby Miller and Gavin Stone legit considerations for a post-season bullpen role? Emmet Sheehan? All three should get work and more length this week.
OKC will be playing in Sugar Land this week, home of the worst offense in the PCL. So, the pitchers could impress this week.
But the trends that are troubling are more on the run production side. My starting point is the All-Star break. Yes, arbitrary, and if anyone disagrees, respectfully, please do the research and present your own analysis.
Since the All-Star break, the Dodgers have faced 9 different teams. 6 of the teams had a > .500 winning percentage. 3 of the teams had a < .500 winning percentage. The Dodgers record against the > .500 teams was 6-13. Their record against teams with < .500 is 7-2. They are beating teams they should, but are .462 against their potential future playoff contenders.
Since the All-Star break, before Monday’s game, the Dodgers were 13-15, ranking them tied for 16th best record.
Before Monday night’s game the Dodgers had not scored more than 9 runs since the Break. They have scored 116 runs since the Break, averaging 4.14 runs/game. In that same time, they have allowed 123 runs. That gives them a -7 run differential. Monday’s game didn’t quite make up the difference.
The intent is to analyze trends and try to make adjustments. If things are not going well, how to improve. If they are going well, how to at least maintain. Maybe Monday’s game turns things around for the Dodgers. It certainly does not hurt.
Freddie breaks out of his 18 game XBH drought, with two opposite field doubles.
Snell had 6 excellent innings in Coors. Alex Vesia and Evan Phillips each had good 1.0 IP relief outings.
After playing flimsy defense lately, Tommy Edman and Mookie Betts turned things around with two outstanding defensive plays.
OTOH, the corner outfielders and the closer are flat out not performing. The two OF are not hitting or playing anything that resembles adequate defense. Edwin Díaz coming in and giving up 3 runs and 4 hits in the 9th is just not acceptable.
Doc has gone on record and said that performance will dictate playing time. None of Tucker, Teo, or Díaz have options. They cannot just be sent down to MiLB. I 100% agree with Eric Karros that Kyle Tucker needs to come down with back spasms and head to Arizona for a total reset. Right now, I do not think Tucker would fight it. It would not be the first time a mysterious ailment has been “found”. I may be wrong, but I think Wrobo has that mysterious arm fatigue more than forearm inflammation.
Can the Dodgers put Díaz back on the IL and let him work things out in Arizona? Right now, he cannot be counted on in low leverage or high leverage situations. Command is just not there. Keep sending him out there and maybe something will click.
I am not making excuses for Tucker, who has played horrendously all year (offensively and defensively), but the Dodgers did not do him any favors by offering him an irresponsible contract (my word and opinion). There is no possibility that Tucker can live up to that contract. No possibility. He is now in deep quicksand, and it is pulling him under. He is fighting it. Can the Dodgers throw him a lifeline and pull him up and hide him? He is making $60MM a year, so nobody is feeling sorry for him. But it is up to him to turn it around.
Regardless, the team has to continue to support Tucker. I am not predicting it, but he is someone who could get hot at the right time (October). He is not going anywhere. Unless he is truly injured, he will be on the playoff roster. If he has a great October, the 0-24 and dropped fly ball will be forgotten.
Build on Monday's game and start an upward trend.
DSL Cle Mendoza 9 – DSL LAD Mega 2
17-year-old LHP Miguel Herrera had his best outing of the year. He completed 4.0 scoreless innings. He allowed 3 hits, walked 4, and struck out 3.
RF Helvin Mendoza hit a solo HR (4) in the 4th inning. Mendoza is a 17-year-old OF who is having a fantastic first professional season. He is slashing .329/.495/.470/.965.
The 2nd run was unearned. C Jose Rivas doubled (4) and moved to 3rd on a groundout. Rivas scored on a passed ball.
· Helvin Mendoza – 2-3, 1 BB, 1 run, 1 RBI, HR (4)
· Jose Rivas – 2-4, 1 run, double (4)
· Doubles – Ezequiel Aparicio (4), Luis Tovar (7)
DSL Royals Fortuna 8 – DSL LAD Bautista 2 – 7 innings
17-year-old RHP Delio Centeno had his best outing throwing 2.2 scoreless IP, 3 hits, 4 BB, 2 K. RHP Emmanuel De La Rosa followed Centeno and threw 2.1 scoreless innings. He allowed 2 hits, 0 BB, and 2 K.
DSL LAD Bautista scored a run in the opening frame. CF Rubel Arias drew a leadoff BB. SS Ezequiel Melburne singled. A WP moved both runners up. Arias scored on a groundout.
Two Bautista pitchers coughed up 8 runs in the 6th, on 7 hits, and 3 BB.
Bautista scored a run in the 7th on a BB, and 3 WP.
Melburne and LF Jeibert Rondon were the only Bautista batters with a hit, both singles.
Discussion (112)
Disagree, not disagreeable
I'm as concerned as anyone and I'm trying not to let their play stress me out. I keep hanging on to the fact that they were below .500 last July and August which included a 7 game losing streak, with Conforto (Tucker) and a struggling Scott (Diaz)...and they still pulled it out.
Matt, don't even try to reason with the whine and cheese club. They are so obsessed with their statistical analysis and short term trends that they fail to see the big picture. Accusing us of not using our eyes, ostriches, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny etc. etc. Just because we do not have the same mindset as you, does not give you a reason to be condescending. Your viewpoints are no better than ours. In our thought process, the Dodgers are a dynasty, defending 2 time champions, lead the west by 7GAMES, and will be going to the dance. If the playoffs are a crapshoot, then what the hell does it matter. The Dodgers will be there. Okay? We are all Dodger fans. Don't besmirch our positivity. I see with my eyes and what I see is not pretty. And I don't mean the players. Lighten up a little. You're analysis is fine and you're entitled to post it, but don't force it on us. Because in the grand scheme it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. I'm going to root for the Blue with my eyes and my heart. You guys can root for them with a harddrive full of stats. Thanks for letting me vent. Book em
Diaz out with a neck injury. I guess he hurt it looking back at all the hard hit balls he was giving up
Going to Colorado was just what the Dodgers needed. Add in a soft tossing RH pitcher to unleash the LH power bats.
There's not much better on a baseball field than watching Max Muncy unload on a center cut fastball. Max has had a excellent season. I believe he has become the true leader on this team. He has to be the best trade AF has made while with the Dodgers. Add to that the salaries paid to Max in his Dodger career have been the best value in the current MLB. On the other hand.....
.... Diaz, Tucker, and Teoscar. I keep watching and waiting for some type of consistent production from this group. As we all have!
A Colorado position player, Troy Johnston, had a shutdown inning last night. Diaz, not so much. Dump the trumpets until he gets his shit together.
Excellent article Jeff! I believe most reading here have similar feelings about the current state of the Dodgers play.
Mark, interesting feedback from your Dodger insider. I will be curious how things play out for the rest of the season and in the offseason.
Carry on.
Diaz looks like a broken man. I think Doc did the Dodgers a big favor by sending him out to the mound last night. If that doesn’t convince them he needs to go back on the il , what will it take?
Kyle Tucker also has that “broken “ look. I don’t believe he’s done, not by a long shot. But, he needs a reset of some sort. So if he mysteriously goes on the il, who plays right field? Call ? Kike? Would their production be any better? Let’s face it, except for Rojas the bench is weak. So benching Tucker, or benching Teo, what’s the alternative? Is there a spark in the minors? Won’t know until they try. Edman is great. But he’s a utility guy, and a dang good one! But with a weakened bench he’s forced into being the second baseman on a regular basis. Maybe it’s time to call up Alex Thomas. Can’t be any worse than Teo or Tucker.
Thank you Jeff for perfectly encapsulating what I’ve been thinking for weeks if not months.
I do still remain a bit unconvinced the pitching will carry this team through to a possible 7 game World Series. It might be even more stressed by a Wild Card round, but maybe the addition of Glasnow, Snell and Skubal will allow the team to keep playing until November.
At the moment it feels like winning low scoring games against the better clubs will be necessary going forward. The offensive schneid has gone on too long. And beating up on a last place club doesn’t convince me. Beat up the Braves and maybe I’ll believe.
News flash - Mark Walter has just sold Tucker and Diaz to Bob Iger as part of the Laker deal. They'll both have a chance to try out as point guards but failing that will become ushers.
I’ll take the win. It beats the alternative and we did play better. 5 for 16 w/ RISP was nice to see. Snell’s line looks good; 6 complete with 1 ER on 90 pitches.
Snell is a different cat, after all, he is a left-handed pitcher. The 3 walks to open the 3rd, aren’t actually that unusual for him. He has a history of going off into some alternative universe at times and just losing commend, temporarily. I have told this story before so forgive me if you’ve heard this one: At Shorewood High School in Seattle his senior year, Snell was obviously a dude along with another pitching teammate; a kid named Moriarty. Snell was pitching against my alma-mater in the state tourney at the Mariner’s ballpark. Snell was untouchable that night thru 6 of the 7 inning game, giving up only a couple of hits in a 0 to 0 game. In the top of the 7th Snell came out and trow ball 4, ball 8 and ball 12. He just lost it. Like last night. He walked the first 3 hitters to load the bases with no outs. His coach pulled him and replaced him with the Moriarty kid who prompted hit the first batter he saw, scoring a run. That made the score 1 to 0 and that one run held up and my alma-mater won the game. 3 walks and a hit batter scored the winning run with no hits and Snell took the loss.
I like Fedduccia’s catching skills. He gives a nice big solid target back there. I never notice he’s back there but we certainly see a lot less balls go to the backstop. He blocks really well, not trying to catch the ball in the dirt, rather blocking it. No backhand OLE’ attempts, which Rushing likes to do. I like the guy.
Nice to see Ohtani, Freeman, Pages and Muncy get to fatten up their stats against the Rockies. I’m sorry to admit, but right now I’m guilty of harboring a touch of bitterness with Ohtani. Last night against the Rockies pitching, he was Superman again celebrating his 2 homers and 4 hits. But where the hell was he over the last 6 important games when we needed some of that, instead of flailing away like a drunken sailor. He was 5 for 24 (.208) with 8 K’s and 7 LOB, when we needed him most.
While I’m being grumpy, let’s discuss Tucker again, who had our only error last night. So how do you hit .230 and have horseshit at bats, like Tucker.
The pitch mix pregame with batting averages against on Sugano, on the screen last night showed: Splitter .190 Four seam .290 Sinker .360 Cutter .250 Sweeper .286 Slider .225 Curve .174
Along with the pre-game hitter’s meeting, it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to see what Sugano’s out-pitch is, since he seldom throws his curve. He going to throw a splitter to get you out. After Mookie's nice RBI double, he's at 2nd with 0 outs. What's Tucker's job? Obviously get a pitch to pull and advance Mookie. So Tucker gets ahead in the count 2&0. There's a huge chance he will see that splitter next. Get something to pull and that may not be a splitter. So, spit on it and wait on something else to pull. If not look in, get that foot down early and try to pull it. Not my choice. So what does Tucker do? He’s tardy on a splitter and pops it up to foul to 3rd. A totally wasted at bat and just not good baseball. Edman whiffs on a slider in the dirt and Teo takes strike 3, looking leaving Mookie stranding at 2nd. No fair balls in play and no 2nd run. It didn’t matter last night in this blowout, but that’s why we're shitty. That stuff matters. If I’m Tucker and hitting .230, that might be a great time to drop down a bunt, advance the runner to 3rd and maybe get a base hit. Small bat has it's place to manufacture a run.
Good decision to bring in Diaz with a 9 run lead. Give him a nice soft landing to straighten his shit out. Instead, he took another step to convince the brass that right now Kike and Miggy Ro seem to be better options for that mop-up job with a huge lead. Hopefully Diaz will get more 10 run leads and we can save Miggy and Kike for when Diaz is no longer with us.
AVF may have nailed it:
Is it possible that Teoscar Hernandez, Kyle Tucker, and Edwin Diaz may be left off the Playoff Roster?
If the playoffs started tomorrow... YES! There is still time, but "death spirals" are hard to stop.
DePaula has to be put on the 40-man roster in the offseason, so I still think it is possible he gets a call-up.
Yes, I know AF has never done that. He has also never had two corner outfielders that suck such immense amounts of pondwater!
I'd rather trust DePaula and Thomas than those two slackers.
Man yall cant even enjoy the wins around here anymore....
You all have been very very spoiled.
At this stage of the season I would rather see Bobby Miller than Edwin Diaz. Another clunker by Diaz, luckily the Dodgers were ahead comfortably before he entered. But still had to get up Scott and warm up. Tucker and Diaz both huge, huge disappontments so far. But as Jeff said: Both can turn it around with a great October and all is forgotten.
There's an ongoing conversation as to how valuable a first baseman is as compared to other positions. I'm in the group that feels the first baseman is one of the more valuable defensive positions.
Finally someone has come out with a rating system for first basemen. Here's a link to the system brought out by Baseball Savant. Naturally Freddie rates very highly.
Open on baseballsavant.mlb.comhttps://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/first-base-scoops-receiving?partnerId=it-20260819-19482833-mlb-1-A&utm_id=it-20260819-19482833-mlb-1-A&lctg=74090925&viz_players=676475_2026&viz_selected_idx=0Brock Stewart has been activated (all bullpen problems solved) and Jonathan Hernandez (who might actually be our best reliever*) has been dfa for the third time this year.
He's halfway to the record for most times dfa in one season for one player by one team, that being Carlos Carrasco by the Braves, who did it to him 6 times this year before he finally got pissed and went to Korea to pitch.
Guys,
The reason they are not scoring many runs is because they have multiple automatic outs in their lineup. I count 4. That's half the lineup.
Mookie .232/.286/.401 OPS+ 90 Tucker .230/.336/.367 OPS+ 94 Teo .250/.312/.403 OPS+98 Rortvedt .154/.154/.154 OPS+ -13 Fedducia .222/.323/.370 OPS+ 94
They didn't need Tarik Skubal (not that I am complaining about getting him). They needed another bat or two. Preferrably outfielders. They'll likely have to stick Kike in left field again and move Teo to right. Bench Tucker, and pray that Will Smith comes back by October. Also having the same mediocre relievers at the back end of the bullpen coming in throwing sweepers doesnt help anything either.
Tibbs and JDP bossin' tonight
Per Pompliano:
Mark Walter has been looking for cash to fund billions of dollars in loans for months, and he isn't just trying to sell his sports assets.
According to @Ourand_Puck, Mark Walter engaged Charter Communications to see whether the company wanted to exit its local TV deals for the Lakers and Dodgers several years early in exchange for a lump-sum payment, but those talks went nowhere.
The Dodgers currently have one of the best local TV deals in sports — 25 years, $8.35 billion for an average of $334 million annually — but Walter was willing to exit the deal early in exchange for upfront cash today.
That's crazy.
I'll take it
Oh how I wish we had a closer who could get high leverage strikeouts ala Gagne and Kenley
Looks like another Colorado typical high scoring game coming up. Will check in the morning. Predict 11-8 LA wins
I hope I'm wrong, but I think that after just two batters, it's very obvious that it's not Lauer's night.
Corner OFs are biggest culprits here on offense, but the 'pen has been horrible since the break too. It had a 3.80 ERA before the break and 4.73 after. 1.242 WHIP before the break and 1.414 after. The defense had 24 errors in their first 92 games but have 52 now. Basically the whole team has underperformed since the Break in all spheres.
I'm not sure what is going on with long posts, but I've now tried to post a collection of news and notes three times and it's continually failed.
95% chance it's user error, but at least I tried.
8:40 PM ET
Dodgers (75-51) Rockies (50-75)
SP Eric Lauer L 7-6 4.67 ERA SP Ryan Feltner R 5-6 5.59 ERA
Confirmed Lineup DH S. Ohtani L 1B F. Freeman L CF Andy Pages R 3B Max Muncy L SS Mookie Betts R 2B Tommy Edman S RF Kyle Tucker L LF T. Hernandez R C H. Feduccia L
85° Wind 9 mph R-L 5-6 5.59 ERA
LINE LAD -190
Sheehan is back with the team.
Edwin Diaz to the IL
I totally agree with Karro's idea of a phantom injury for Tucker so he can go and get his head on straight. He is getting paid too much money to be this bad.