Should We Worry About the Pitching?

Bad news, but the injury opens the door for someone else.

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Also there were some more cuts –

https://www.truebluela.com/2018/3/19/17141750/adam-liberatore-jake-peter-donovan-solano-dylan-baker-dodgers-roster-moves

Opening Day I’d go:

CT3

Seager

Puig

Belly

Kemp

Kike

Forsythe

Barnes

Kersh

I am going to make a bold prediction that Turner isn’t in the opening day lineup. RATS

JT wrist is broken. Let’s see how long it takes for him to return, but give it 8-10 weeks at least.

Was that really Pedro Baez? He was ready to pitch when he got the ball back. Wow! This is different…

The existence or absence of pain does not correlate to a broken bone. Now we wait and see what the x-rays or MRI says about Turner. Even Ray Charles can see it hurt a lot.

A JOC JACK!

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Cody too…

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But it was good to see Joc get one.

I wonder what this would do for the lineup. Does Puig move to 3rd between Seager and Belly? Do you lead Toles off at times and have CT3 bat 3rd?

Turner left in 1st after getting in on the hands.

Went down quick.

ice and x-ray time for JT

Obviously meant, safe travels.

This is Ross Stripling’s 3rd year in the Bigs.

Year 1: 1.26 WHIP

Year 2: 1.18 WHIP

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Now if he can improve this year, we might have something. He also improved his ERA in his second year. I think he will get better, but he’s not our 8th inning guy.. at least not yet!

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El Gasolino? Can’t argue…

Mark, save travels. I will be in Cape Haitian and Romeo 2nd week of April. I guess I won’t need to bring as much bottled water as I had planned on.

Thanks for your good work down there.

Many good points. I need to see two pitchers in other teams’ uniforms this year: Ross Stripling and ESPECIALLY Pedro “El Gasolino” Baez. Both have had ample opportunity to improve and to show what pitchers they can be. Neither is young enough anymore to hope their potential pans out. They are what they are going to be, especially Baez.

I can live with Stripling strictly as a long reliever and emergency starter, but if he ends up on the roster, please oh please stop using him in late inning pressure situations!! I know he’s cheap, but he has shown time and again where his strengths lie, and those strengths don’t include late-inning short relief. Give his roster spot to Walker Bueller! I’d also like to see what their ambidextrous pitcher, Pat Venditte, can do, although I admit I just think it’d be cool to watch a switch-pitcher for awhile strictly for the novelty of it.

As for Baez, the Dodgers keep thinking he will grow into something other than who he has shown himself to be. They are enamored with the raw ability in his arm. However, he is now 29 years old. He ain’t changing. Sure, he throws hard and has good movement on his fastball, but he throws nothing else well and has shown with frightening regularity that he will groove a pitch right down the middle of the plate at exactly the wrong time. Baez often looks really good through July, but has shown time and time again to melt down under the heat of a pennant race! While the following still have good trade value, package Baez along with Joc Pederson (too many holes in his swing–will always struggle with consistency) and maybe Yasmani Grandal (last year of contract on a club with a ton of catching depth) in a trade for a dominating 8th-inning closer-caliber reliever and more pitching depth. As of yet, I see no righty currently on the club who can replace Morrow as the set-up guy. Address this need please, and NOT with Bye-bye Baez!

Ross Stripling signed a 1 year / $550,000 contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers, including $550,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $550,000. In 2018. He is 28 and a free agent in 2023. He has synced with Dodger players as he once shared a house with Seager, Thompson, Pederson, and Wood. He had one of the marriages this off-season that was attended by teammates. His time is now.

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Stewart is 26 and doesn’t have a contract. He needs to improve on a third pitch and if he can, he will be second up to the rotation after Stripling. Financially, getting on the 25, even as a reliever, is important to him. I have always liked him and appreciate the advantages and disadvantages of him being late to pitching. He is an ex-shortstop and has low miles on his arm and less time to develop that third pitch.

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Buehler and White are solid second half of season pitchers.

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Shifting Maeda to the bullpen probably solves any problem the Dodgers might have for an 8th inning setup pitcher later in the season.

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I am comfortable with the pitching depth.

On Clayton Kershaw’s 30th Birthday, here’s a look back at the 20 year-old Clayton Kershaw and the 8 year-old Stephen Timmons… and yes, he still has the ball!

I think I agree with #1. I was very upset/surprised/nervous when we yanked hill after 4 innings pitched in that game. I was hopeful but feeling like we might’ve made an unnecessary mistake.

Gammons on the NL West on (in?) the Athletic. It’s a pay model, so I won’t post much of it, but:

1. He writes the WS hinged on Kenley’s long game 2 stint and the Gonzalez HR.

2. Sabean is amazed with the Dodgers recent dominance over the division.

3. Tells people not to snicker at Kemp with an anecdote.

4. Says “There are right-handed bullpen questions to be answered, but Andrew Friedman and Farhan Zaidi love compiling depth. They will try to open the season with at least 10 bullpen options in Majors and Minors….

The loss of so-called pitching depth is mostly an illusion. How many innings did McCarthy and Kazmir pitch in the past 2 seasons?

2017 – McCarthy – 16 starts, 92 innings

Kazmir – 0 starts, 0 innings

2016 – McCarthy – 9 starts, 40 innings

Kazmir – 26 starts, 136 innings

Neither of these guys are reliable. While there is no doubt that the Dodgers have multiple starting pitchers who will spend time on the DL this year, the Braintrust has stopped signing the walking wounded to pitch and has opted instead to use the youngsters for pitching depth. I have no problem with this, except:

* It doesn’t make any sense to say that Stripling is going to be a reliever who pitches an inning or 2 at a time but will be expected to work as a starter as needed. They either need to stretch him out as a starter or not.

* Will Font still be available if he is needed? He’s not having a stellar spring but he’s not likely to make the team out of Spring training and will likely be claimed if he’s sent down since he’s out of options.

* It doesn’t look like Stewart is really destined to be a starter.

* Is Buehler ready?

* Will Urias ever pitch again?

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I expect the Dodgers will make a deadline deal for a starter again this July.

The next 10 days are important to players like Baez and Pederson.

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I was pleased to hear the Dodgers might go with 7 relievers instead of 8.

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Peter has regressed to norm but he made an impression.

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My prediction is that both Toles and Pederson are o the 25 to start the season.

Up to now players seem to have played every other day. Does anybody know what they do when they are not in the lineup. Prospects come into the game after the players that started that day get 3 at bats but the advanced players haven’t seen game action when they haven’t started.

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Might Taylor and Hernandez spend their off days working in the infield.? Might Pederson spend his time in the batting cages?

Kershaw – 203 Innings

Wood – 181 Innings

Maeda – 156 Innings

Hill – 169 Innings

Ryu – 173 Innings

Stripling – 102 Innings

I agree with you guys on the bull pen. Chargois and Vinditte should be on the team. Baez should go to AAA to learn a second pitch. Something he should of done this winter. What will happen is that Baez will be on the team and Vinditte will go to AAA. Doc and management really do go with veterans first. They are given a chance to prove they belong or play themselves off the team.

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I believe Ryu is going to have a god year. This is his second year after shoulder surgery. I may be more worried about Hill than Ryu.

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I feel the same way on Joc. I think Toles should be on the team. However, I can see them keeping Joc and sending Toles down. I think there is some frustration with young players who feel they are playing better than some players the Dodgers keep. ST is just that to Doc and management. The veterans will get their opportunity first.

I always worry about the rotation but I guess instead of worrying you should have a plan in place to take care of any issues that come up.

Last year the starting rotation pitched in 126 games with a combined 64- 30 won-lost record. Kershaw had 27 starts, Wood, Hill, and Maeda had 25 starts each, with Ryu starting 24. In the 36 games started by other pitchers, this is the breakdown.

McCarthy started 16 games, going 6-4 and pitched 92.2 innings. Darvish started 9 games. going 4-3 and pitched 49.2 innings. Urias started 5 games, going 0-2 and pitched 23.1 innings. Stewart started 4 games, going 0-0 and pitched 13.2 innings. Stripling started 2 games, going 0-0 and pitched 5 innings. That’s 10 wins, 9 loses, and 184.1 innings the Dodgers have to plan to equal or to improve on.

If the starting rotation can come close to last years starts then it might come down to Buehler and how many starts and innings he can give the team, plus Stewart and or Stripling. Urias might be ready to help late in the season but I would rather see him not rush and be 100% ready for next year.

if we really do have a surplus of outfielders, maybe swapping one for rotation depth would be wise. if possible. i’m personally glad we stopped building that endless “colletti bridge” to the future, but the next wave of pitching shouldn’t be rushed. do we have enough between now and then? we’ll find out. i’d rather see buehler as next man up then a john lackey signing or something. the kids will lead us to our next glory.

IMO, there is a difference between being worried, and believing that there is room for improvement. It seems clear that the #5 starter was not open for competition. Hyun-jin Ryu was anointed the #5 and what transpired during spring training seems irrelevant. Both Stripling and Buehler have pitched better than Ryu this spring, and neither seem to be considered at this time. Stewart has not pitched well and he is now settling into the OKC rotation. Stripling was labeled a reliever early on as one of the five relief role locks. I would have no problem if the position was not open for competition, but it was stated prior to spring training that the #5 starting pitcher was yet to be decided.

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I am not worried about the depth of pitching. I have stated on multiple occasions that FAZ is the master at building a team with enough depth to get to the playoffs. Whether they have the correct pieces to get THROUGH the playoffs has been the question. They did last year, it just did not work out. Gerrit Cole has quietly had a fantastic spring thus far. In 4 starts he has 12.2 IP, allowed 10 hits, 2 runs, 5 walks, 15 strikeouts, for a 1.42 ERA and 1.184 WHIP. He no longer has to pitch with the pressure of being the Ace of the Pirates. How great do the Astros feel when Cole goes against their opponents’ #3 or #4? The Astros were not worried about their pitching, but they knew they could improve, and did. There is no question the Dodgers could have made a better offer for Cole, but chose not to, and I am in no way criticizing that decision. If FAZ was unquestionably supportive of Ryu as the #5, then say there is no competition for the #5 coming into spring. They have more than earned the right not to be second guessed on this.

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I feel the same about the supposed open competition for the bullpen. JT Chargois and Pat Venditte have both pitched well enough to have earned a spot in the bullpen. They both have a WHIP of less than 1.000. As does Justin De Fratus. IMO, Jansen, as the best closer in MLB, and Alexander and Cingrani, as the only viable LHRP, should be the only locks. Stripling has pitched well enough to be the multiple innings long man as well as one who can come in to pitch in high leverage situations. But how does Pedro Baez and his 2.357 WHIP earn a spot over Chargois, Venditte, or even De Fratus? I have no problem with Josh Fields getting a spot, especially if he continues to gets innings over the next 9 days. Baez can be part of that depth at OKC, along with De Fratus, Garcia, Liberatore, Moran, Copping, Paredes, Broussard, Jankowski….The relievers that have earned their spots are Jansen, Alexander, Cingrani, Stripling, Chargois, Venditte, and Fields. If an 8th is needed, I would take De Fratus over Baez and let Baez earn his spot back while pitching at OKC.

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Worried? No. Is their room for improvement? Yes.

From the OC Register:

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Urias says he has not had a single twinge of pain during that program which has progressed to long-tossing from 120 feet this week.

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Other markers are off in the distance. Urias says he does not know when he will throw off a mound again or face hitters. He says he is just trying to stay pain-free and get comfortable throwing again.

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“Making sure you’re pain free day-to-day — that’s the most important part,” he said. “When you go eight months without doing anything then you start throwing, you immediately start feeling like there are other things coming, other stages of the rehab coming along.”

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There are only hazy projections for when Urias might be able to return to action. The original prognosis was a 12- to 14-month recovery and Dodgers manager Dave Roberts sticks to the company line when he says, “We’re expecting to get Julio back at some point this summer.”

Dave Roberts is a good spin Doc.