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I have not been shy about stating how I feel about the bullpen. And I do understand that recognizing that there may be a problem and doing something about it can be and often is two different things. Maybe with the way the starting pitching is performing, this will become less of an issue, but I prefer to plan rather than to react. I have never disagreed with Mark about

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I have not been shy about stating how I feel about the bullpen.  And I do understand that recognizing that there may be a problem and doing something about it can be and often is two different things.  Maybe with the way the starting pitching is performing, this will become less of an issue, but I prefer to plan rather than to react.

I have never disagreed with Mark about how fickle a reliever can be, but at the same time I also recognize that there are some seasons where the reliever is on and it is best to ride that horse while you can.  During the season, I would much rather trade for a reliever who was having a good season at the deadline rather than for a reliever who was not having a productive season.  We know that did not happen last year, and while I do not blame the bullpen for the WS loss, the team sure did not have a reliever who could have helped.

2019 is a different season, and to Mark’s point some of the pitchers who were hot last year are not so hot this year, and this year brings a new list of potential trade deadline candidates who are having good 1st halves.  I have my favorites, but I have no doubt that many of them will not be available, and some are in the NL West, specifically with the Giants, who will not trade with the LAD.

As an aside, after the 2017 season, the Dodgers had a choice of adding Scott Barlow to the 40-man roster or letting him become a FA.  I was very disappointed that the Dodgers did not select Barlow and said so at the time.  The Royals signed him and added him to the 40-man roster. Later in the offseason the Dodgers traded with the same Royals organization for Scott Alexander.  The cost was Trevor Oaks and Erick Mejia.  Oaks is out due to hip surgery and Mejia is having a fine season at AAA with Omaha Storm Chasers.  Alexander was supposed to be a big-time ground ball pitcher to come in for DP.  Unfortunately what the Dodgers have primarily seen is the wild side of Scott.  I was not then nor am I now upset with the trade.  Meanwhile Scott Barlow is now one of the better relievers thus far in the AL.  14 games, 20.1 IP, 8 BB, 30 K, 1.77 ERA, and 0.984 WHIP.  No blown saves or blown holds.  He has inherited 15 runners and only 3 have scored.  In 5 games thus far in May, Barlow has come in with runners on in 4 of them; 1 with bases loaded, 2 with 2 runners on, and once with 1 runner on.  None of those runners have scored.  Can Dylan Floro and his 0.50 ERA say the same?

As Mark mentioned earlier, I was an advocate for Detroit’s Shane Greene during the off-season.  I have zero idea if the Dodgers pursued him or not.  I just believed he was a good late inning candidate, and he has proven to be so.  In contrast, I was also a huge advocate for Jose Leclerc, and he has been miserable thus far.  I would still be in favor of acquiring Leclerc at an appropriate cost. I also believed that Jesen Therrien would be a huge add on by June. I have no idea what is up with him. Others that I was in favor of at the time who will not be available this year…Ryan Pressly, Taylor Rogers, Brad Brach…The team is going to need to ride the bullpen until July when AF can determine whether there will be a reliever available better than what the team has.  I am not in favor of making a change just for the sake of change.

One other way of improving the bullpen is thru internal possibilities.  I thought I would take a look at what opportunities may exist in the Dodgers farm system…FOR THIS YEAR.   

I am not a strong advocate of taking a starting pitcher in the middle of a year and making them a relief pitcher.  I know it can work, but more often it does not.  I do recall a very bad Walker Buehler as a reliever in 2017.  Besides the Dodgers do not need a multi-inning reliever, which is where a starter would generally be reserved for.  The Dodgers have at least two in Stripling and Ferguson, and one potential depending on whether Urias goes to the rotation or stays in the bullpen.  If in the rotation, That would probably be a rotation of Buehler, Kershaw, Ryu, and Urias.  That makes 3 starting pitchers and probably 4 (Maeda and Hill joining Strip and Ferguson).  Still no late inning lock down reliever.  You could replace Hill for Urias, but then you have the same issue.

So who are the potential relievers from the farm.  Consider that the Dodgers will keep 9 relievers, besides the long men of Strip, Ferguson, Maeda, Urias or Hill.  That leaves 5 of Pedro Baez, Dylan Floro, Yimi Garcia, Joe Kelly, Tony Cingrani, Scott Alexander, and Kenley Jansen.  Who can the Dodgers look to in their organization to make that bullpen better

On the 40 man:

Dennis Santana  – Tough year thus far.  May need to make a decisions as to start or relief.

Adam McCreery – Closer to being DFA than added to roster.  Long shot at best.

JT Chargois – More likely than McCreery, but management does not seem to trust him.

Jaime Schultz – Is he better than anyone on the current roster?

Brock Stewart – Been there done that.  You can fool me four times, but not five times. 

Yadier Alvarez – By far the biggest disappointment in the entire organization.  Million-dollar arm and a one-dollar heart.

Josh Sborz – I would still like to see what he can do.  He was up for several days and did not get in.  Why???  13 games, 15.1 IP, 4 BB and 23 K, 5.28 ERA, and 1.43 WHIP.  Josh has been scored on in 5 of the 13 games including one horrendous outing where he allowed 6 runs on 5 hits and 1 walk, in 0.1 IP.  Take that game out, and the numbers get a little more reasonable.  But you do not get to do that.

Not on the 40 man but could be if needed:

AAA:

Joe Broussard – No better than Josh Ravin, Adam Liberatore, Grant Dayton, Jacob Rhame.  Organizational depth reliever.

Zach McAllister – Has not pitched well and is currently on the IL (?).

Stetson Allie – Just like Shea Spitzbarth a couple years back, seems to be a ST wonder, but cannot sustain it over a long season.  Saying that he is pitching poorly would be kind.

Kevin Quackenbush – A lesser John Axford.

Tony Gonsolin – IL and let him continue to start.  He does not need to be rushed.  Keep remembering Walker Buehler 2017.

Mitchell White – Is having a great rebound year. Let him keep doing what he is doing.  See Tony Gonsolin.

Other organizational depth – Daniel Corcino, Justin Grimm, Louis Head, Luis Vazquez, and Rob Zastryzny

AA:

Marshall Kasowski – He has a one pitch arsenal, but it is a good one with a quirky delivery.  Still has command and control issues, but of the relievers, he is closest to being someone who could at least apply for the role at the MLB level.  He should be moved to OKC and move some of the dead weight out.  The team is going nowhere, so why not push a legit prospect.

Jordan Sheffield – He was my dark horse at the beginning of the year, and he has not disappointed.  He pitched superbly in his first AA outing.  If he continues to pitch well in Tulsa, he should get a quick boost to AAA and possibly a September audition.  Jordan continues to be my dark horse.

Shea Spitzbarth – Is having a good year at AA.  IMO, he is like a younger Broussard and is organizational reliever depth.  However, he is young enough to continue to push.  I would like to see him get pushed to AAA.

Nolan Long/Parker Curry – Multi inning relievers.  Curry is now starting. 

Michael Boyle – Has been a surprising disappointment of late.  I was hoping that he would have a good year and get a September look.  It does not appear that he will.

Wills Montgomerie – He will be 24 next month and has pitched brilliantly at RC in long relief.  He has apparently been promoted to AA Tulsa, but additional roster changes still need to be made.  I am excited to see what he can do at AA.

Other organizational depth – Layne Somsen, Chris Nunn, Michael Bowden, and Yordy Cabrera.

Miscellaneous Relief:

Kenley Jansen – For those of you who believe that adding Craig Kimbrel is a possible solution, here is what Jansen has to say on the subject:

Jansen, the Dodgers established closer, said he wouldn’t mind Kimbrel as a teammate. 

“Why not?” Jansen told Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday. “We want to win a championship, right?”  But Jansen also made it clear that he wasn’t ready to give up the closing role to Kimbrel.  “That’s what I get paid for,” Jansen told Hernandez. “I get paid for closing ballgames. Why should I have to do anything different? That’s my question. It doesn’t make any sense.”

It does not look positive for a Jansen/Kimbrel duo.

Joe Kelly – What has changed with Joe Kelly post FA signing – One baseball writer wrote:

One major change the Dodgers have made with Kelly is they are having him throw his changeup more than he ever has. He’s using it 24.1 percent of the time, which is 13.1 percent more than his career average. His changeup has also graded as his worst pitch by Fangraphs’ runs above average stat.

When Kelly was dominant, he was relying heavily on his high-spin curveball and fastball, then mixing in his changeup. This combo was effective at getting swinging strikes for Kelly. Now, batters are making 10 percent more contact on pitches outside of the zone and 8.3 percent more contact on pitches inside the zone. His total swinging strike rate has dropped 3.4 percent from last season.

His fastball velocity still ranks in the 98th percentile of major league pitchers and his curveball spin also ranks in the 98th percentile. He has two great pitches that are being used less in favor of a worse one.

Kelly is a case of multiple things going wrong at the same time. He has been unlucky, he hasn’t executed his pitches, and he has made a change that hasn’t worked. A lot of his numbers look worse due to his small sample of work, but it’s clear their new usage plan for Kelly hasn’t been working. Luckily for Kelly and the Dodgers, there is still hope for him.

Besides for having patience while waiting for his luck to turn around, the Dodgers need to let Kelly go back being a single-inning reliever who relies on his fastball and curveball combo. When that happens, the Dodgers might have the reliever they thought they signed.

Maybe Shane Greene, but I do not know who else will become available. I do not see a savior in any of the affiliates. It looks like the Dodgers are going to need to make due with who they have.

MINOR LEAGUE REPORT by AC

OKC 9 – Omaha Storm Chasers 11 (KC)

Welcome to the PCL Mitchell White. With three singles and a walk followed by a 2 out grand slam, White had surrendered 5 runs in his 1st inning. After the 1st, he had an excellent 3 innings allowing only 1 single before he hit the wall in the 5th. After one out, he gave up a single and 2 doubles for 2 more runs before he was done for the night. Adam McCreery and Justin Grimm did not help matters as they combined to allow 4 runs on 4 hits and 2 walks in 1.1 IP. Stetson Allie, Louis Head, and Shaggy mopped up with three shutout innings.

Cameron Perkins went 3-5 with 2 doubles (12). Will Smith (6) and Zach Reks (2) each hit HRs for the Dodgers.

Tulsa Drillers 4 – Arkansas Travelers 5 (Mariners)

Logan Bawcom started and pitched 4.0 innings. He allowed 3 runs on 6 hits. Parker Curry followed and in 1.2 IP he surrendered 1 run on 3 hits. Michael Boyle and Marshall Kasowski each pitched 1.2 shutout innings. Boyle had 3 Ks and Kasowski had 4. Somsen surrendered the unearned run in the 10th for the loss. With a runner on starting on 2nd, a groundout and a sac fly, and the winning run came across. The Drillers could not answer in their half of the 10th.

Cristian Santana went 3-5 with a double (6). Cody Thomas also went 3-5 with a triple (3). Gavin Lux, Keibert Ruiz, and Angelo Mora each had 2 hits. Ruiz now has his average up to .286.

RC Quakes 3 – Modesto Nuts 10 (Mariners)

It is hard to win a game when you have more errors (5) than hits (4). Edwin Uceta pitched 5.2 innings and gave up 3 runs (1 earned) on 5 hits. He did not allow a walk but did get 7 strikeouts. Connor Strain followed with .2 IP and surrendered 1 run after the batter he walked came home to score with a bunch more when Wes Helsabeck relieved. 6 runs on 5 hits. The one bright spot for the Quakes was Melvin Jimenez going 1.1 innings in his 2019 debut. He had 1 hit, 1 walk, and 3 strikeouts.

The Quakes had 4 singles, 2 by Jeter Downs who now has his average up to .252. In his last 10 games, Downs is batting .395 (17/43) with 2 HRs and 10 RBI.

Great Lakes Loons 4 – West Michigan White Caps 3 (Tigers)

The Tigers scored four runs in the 5th with 2 outs on 2 walks, an RBI single by Miguel Vargas, an RBI single by Hunter Feduccia, and a 2 run double by Niko Hulsizer. That was all the Loons needed. Stephen Kolek started and wen 5.2 innings allowing all three runs on 5 hits. Joel Inoa and Brett de Geus finished up the final 3.1 innings with only one hit allowed.

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  1. dodgerrickMay 19, 2019

    The Dodgers dropped to 4-8 this season when they don’t hit a home run.

  2. BlackMirror99May 18, 2019

    This is not for anybody in particular but you can’t have it both ways

    If you want to trade for players, some of the prospects you deal will go on to success.

    There’s a butterfly effect as well as some of those might not even get shots with us.

    Root for ex-Dodgers to do well and don’t dwell on every guy who makes it.

    It’s not an exact science. Look at how we got Max Muncy.

  3. Singing The BlueMay 18, 2019

    AC, you state that the Giants won’t trade with us. That has absolutely been true in the past, but I doubt it applies any longer. When Farhan was with the Dodgers, he said he would trade with whomever gave him the best deal. I would guess that the same applies now (in spite of what SF upper management might prefer) and where better to make a deal than with the team where you intimately know all the prospects.

    We may not wind up dealing with the Giants this July, but it won’t be because they refuse to trade with us (or us with them).

  4. BlutoMay 18, 2019

    Last night:

    Rich Hill: 6.0 IP, 10K, 0ER. Game Score 78

    Frank Montas: 8.2IP, 10K, 2ER, Game Score 78

  5. 2demeter2May 18, 2019

    Good post AC! Beyond the internal options, what do you think the likelihood is that any of the following might be available by trade: Mychael Givens, Alex Colome, Shane Greene, Chris Barrett, Blake Treinen, Kyle Crick, Tony Watson, Will Smith, or Kevin Giles? If they were, which would you think could be the most helpful to the Dodgers, and what do you think it would cost in terms of prospects or MLB players to get them? Who do you think are the most tradable players on the 25 man roster? 40 Man roster? Prospects?

  6. Dirk CalderwoodMay 18, 2019

    I hope Urias not totally ostracized for his obviously dangerous lack of judgement. As somebody who has gone through the system on this I can say that there is help out there for offenders that really want it. You get out of anger management what you put into it. Taking responsibility for your own actions and emotions can be a hard but eye opening process. “Violence is not the way” seems to be a hard thing for some types to learn. Hate to see this kid lose all for what could be a one time mistake. Help is what is called for not banishment. Of course I don’t know the facts of the case….I am just hoping he’s not a lost cause.

  7. peterjMay 18, 2019

    Watford my Man – Have a great game… Have a pint for me… We both suffer, but remain steadfast… Blue and Watford forever…

    Buehler is just now coming around and expect a big game from him…

  8. CassidyMay 18, 2019

    Thx for update AC. Looks like we’ll have to look outside of the organization for pen help. The Giants are so desperate for young talent I think we could get a deal done for Smith. I’m still waiting to see what Cingrani can do when he gets healthy. And come playoff time you have Maeda in pen where his stuff plays up. He was awesome in 17 and not as much in 18. It sounds like Urias will be back at some point and I would keep him in pen and keep Hill in playoff rotation. He’s a big game pitcher who has come up big in playoff pressure time. Also it looks like Cody Thomas could be a future big leaguer and is figuring it out. And I like Christian Santana. A lot of good young talent on the way. It seems like present organization very successful developing these prospects who are not top draftees. Exciting times!

  9. dodgerrickMay 18, 2019

    Since April 25, LA’s rotation is 11-1 with a 2.19 ERA. The Dodgers have thrown five shutouts, second to the Cubs for the NL lead.

  10. DodgerBlueMomMay 18, 2019

    Thanks for the article AC. One of the most important things to me regarding relief pitchers is how many inherited runners they allow to score. Do they keep stats on that, and if so, do you know which Dodger reliever on the big team has allowed the most?

  11. BumsrapMay 18, 2019

    Dodgers: Will Smith, C (No. 5) — 1-for-4, HR (6), 2 RBI, 2 R, BB (Triple-A Oklahoma City)

    The former first-round pick (2016) out of Louisville went deep for the third time in the last seven games and has hit safely in seven of his last eight contests. He’s raking at a .420 clip with 10 RBIs in those eight games, a stretch during which Smith’s season average has climbed from .221 to .274.

  12. Watford DodgerMay 18, 2019

    Hello guys

    I write from an Underground Train, heading to Wembley Stadium – where they play the NFL games – to watch my team Watford play Manchester City in the FA Cup Final.

    We have only played in the final once before, in 1984, and I was there.

    35 years of hurt. We lost that one 2-0 to Everton.

    Saw the Dodgers for the first time in 88.

    Watford and the Dodgers. That’s a lot of disappointment over the years.

    Big underdogs today – but that’s why you play the games….

  13. BlackMirror99May 18, 2019

    Agree Kasowski has a shot.

  14. MushersPopMay 18, 2019

    In case some of you missed it an article by DoderDigest that reviews the Dodgers 2019 pitch selection

    http://dodgersdigest.com/2019/05/07/the-dodgers-are-changing-how-they-pitch/

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