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1958: remembering the first season in Los Angeles

Bad Start to L.A. tenure

By Michael "Bear" Norris11 min readJump to 47 comments

Brooklyn was now going to be a memory. The Dodgers and Giants were moving to the west coast. Baseball's geography was forever changed. Walter O'Malley had moved his team after failing to secure a location for a new ballpark in Brooklyn. He had persuaded Giants owner, Horace Stoneham, to move his Giants west which would make approval for both moves much easier since traveling to the coast to play just one team was not something most owners would want to do.

Most of his star players would be making the move except for Roy Campanella, who had been paralyzed in a car accident in January of 58, and Jackie Robinson who had been traded to the Giants after the 1956 season, refused to report and then retired. Duke, Pee Wee, Hodges, Newcombe, Erskine, Gilliam, Furillo and Podres, were all still with the team. 1958 would be Pee Wee's last season.

Sprinkled in with the former Boys of Summer, were some youngsters, Dick Gray, Don Drysdale, Charlie Neal, Don Demeter. Some future players would make their debuts, Jim Gentile, Frank Howard, 19-year-old Ron Fairly and a 22-year-old left-handed pitcher, Sandy Koufax, would get his first shot at being part of the team's starting rotation.

Wrigley Field, Los Angeles, 1925

O'Malley had two choices of fields his team could play on while his dream stadium was being built. One was old Wrigley Field. It was called Wrigley's "Million Dollar Palace". It was built in 1925 to be the home field of the Cubs PCL team, the Angels. They moved in the park in 1925. The park's capacity in 1925 was exactly 22,000. When the Los Angeles Angels played there in 1961 in the American League, the capacity was 20,457.

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The other option was the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, built for the 1932 Olympic games. The coliseum could hold close to 100,000. But it was a track and field stadium and used for USC football games, as it still is today. O'Malley opted for the bigger stadium capacity. It would prove to be a prudent choice since the Dodgers would draw very well there. But this would cause some creative thinking as to how to lay out a baseball field. Shown above is a diagram of what the stadiums dimensions for baseball were in 1958.

Worried that cheap homers to the left field seats would result in Babe's homer record being shattered, Ford Frick ordered the Dodgers to erect a 42-foot-high screen. The first week of play in 1958 resulted in 24 homers being hit, including 3 by Lee Walls, and outfielder for the Cubs who was not considered a home run threat. Duke Snider, the team's premier left-handed power hitter, took a look at the field, and his heart must have sunk. The right field fence was described by another player as being a short cab ride away.

First game vs giants 1958First game at seals stadium 1958

The Dodgers opened the 1958 season in San Francisco. Don Drysdale was the starting pitcher against the Giants Ruben Gomez. The starting lineup was Cimoli CF, Reese SS, Snider LF, Hodges 1B, Neal 2B, Gray 3B, Furillo RF, Walker C and Big D. Drysdale lasted 3.2 innings giving up 6 runs on 5 hits, and 2 walks. He struck out 1 and gave up a solo homer to Darryl Spencer, the Giants SS in the 4th inning. Don Bessent relieved him and gave up a solo shot to Orlando Cepeda in the 5th. Ron Negray gave up the 8th run. LA lost 8-0, getting 6 hits and 6 walks and striking out 6 times. Gray and Neal had 2 hits each with Cimoli and Walker getting the other two.

Podres 1

The first win in LA Dodger history came the next day. Johnny Podres started for the Dodgers and Ramon Monzant for the Giants. LA definitely had their hitting shoes on as they pounded the Giants 13-1. They had 15 hits and 9 walks. Gray and Roseboro had 3 hits each. Reese doubled, Snider and Gray hit homers. Podres pitched a complete game, striking out 11 and walking 4. He gave up 5 hits. Snider nailed Mays at second base for his first outfield assist of the year. They lost game 3, 7-4 and flew home for their opener against the Giants on April 18th, 1958.

Coliseum first hame

At home for the first time in Los Angeles, the Dodgers drew 78,672 fans to the coliseum. Opening day in San Francisco the crowd was a little over 23,000. Carl Erskine, sore arm and all was the starter. He went 8 innings allowing 10 hits, and 4 walks, but just 4 runs. Hank Sauer hit the first homer at the coliseum in the 4th inning. He added another in the 8th. Dick Gray hit the only LA homer in the 7th. Labine relieved Erskine in the 9th and gave up the Giants 5th run and earned the save. (Credited when the league went back and added that stat to pitchers who got saves before it was a credited stat.) in a 6-5 win. LA had just 8 hits to the Giants 12, and both teams made 2 errors. Gray, Neal and Snider each had 2 hits. Al Worthington got the loss.

The Dodgers would finish April with a 5-9 record. Big D had 4 of those losses and no wins, Podres had 3 wins and no losses. They were 11-17 in May 15-13 in June 13-15 in July. They were 17-14 in August. A 10-15 September left them with a 71-83 record and in 7th place in the 8-team National League. They had a solid 14-8 record against the NL pennant winning Braves. The Braves were the only team they had a winning record against. They were 11-11 against the Cubs, Reds and Cardinals. But the Giants, who finished 3rd, beat them 16 times losing just 6. They were 8-14 against Pittsburgh and 10-12 against the Phillies.

They hit 172 homers as a team, led by Neal and Hodges with 22 each. Zimmer hit 17, and Duke Snider, who had hit 40 or more for 5 straight years, hit just 15. Furillo, in his last full productive season hit 18 and had 83 RBIs to lead the team. Snider played in just 106 games; he had hurt his elbow trying to throw a ball out of the coliseum. Roseboro, in his first year as the starting catcher hit 14. The pitchers hit 8 homers, 7 of them coming off the bat of Drysdale.

After that bad first month going 0-4, Big D went 12-9 the rest of the way. Koufax was 11-11 in his first year in the starting rotation. Podres finished 13-15. Stan Williams at 9-7 was the only starter with a winning record. The team ERA was 4.47, and the staff gave up 172 homers.

Hodges

Gil Hodges won the gold glove at first base that year. Their only all-star was John Roseboro who was selected as a reserve. The team drew 1.8 million fans, good for second in the NL behind the Braves. And think of this, LA was averaging 23,968 in a stadium that could seat close to 100,000. In 1959, attendance was over 2 million and they led the league. They would lead the league in attendance until 1967 when St. Louis outdrew them by 400,000 fans.

Over the 58 season, the Dodgers used 43 players. 19 of them were pitchers. Some would never play in LA again. Same with some of the position players. Some would become stars or regulars, and five of them are in the Hall of Fame. Koufax, Drysdale, Reese, Snider and Hodges. For Pee Wee it was his last season as an active player. He was a coach in 1959, and then moved into broadcasting.

Here are those players. See how many you might remember. Position players: Roseboro, Hodges, Neal, Zimmer, Gray, Cimoli, Snider, Furillo, Gilliam, Larker, Reese, Pignatano, Elmer Valo, Don Demeter, Steve Bilko, Bob Lillis, Randy Jackson, Fairly, Rube Walker, Jim Gentile, Frank Howard, Don Miles, Earl Robinson and Bob Wilson.

Pitchers: Podres, Drysdale, Koufax, Williams, Labine, Erskine, McDevitt, Fred Kipp, Johnny Klippstein, Don Newcombe, he would be traded to the Reds before the 59 season, Roger Craig, Bob Gialombardo, Babe Birrier, Ed Roebuck, Ralph Mauriello, Don Bessent, Jackie Collum, Ron Negray and Larry Sherry, who pitched in 5 games.

It was a mix of seasoned veterans, some of the Boys of Summer, some kids, and a football stadium masquerading as a baseball field. The beginning of a love affair of a city with its team.

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OKC Comets 8 – Sugar Land Space Cowboys (Houston) 5 

OKC’s win streak has now reached 13, a franchise-best during the Bricktown era (since 1998).  The win was their 4th straight over Sugar Land, and have now opened up a 4.0 game lead over the 2nd place Space Cowboys, with 8 games to play. 

OKC got on the board in the 1st.  CF Alek Thomas walked and RF James Tibbs III also walked.  Thomas moved to 3rd after a GIDP.  Thomas scored on a RBI single from 3B Ryan Fitzgerald

LF Chris Newell hit his first AAA HR in the 2nd.  

LHSP Charlie Barnes pitched a rather impressive 5.0 scoreless innings.  He allowed a double, single, 2 BB, and recorded 2 K.  Going into the bottom of the 5th. OKC had a 2-0 lead.  

Thomas and JTIII led off the 5th with singles putting runners on the corners.  Thomas was thrown out at home on a fielder’s choice.  Fitzgerald had his 2nd RBI single scoring JTIII. 

In the 6th, C Ben Rortvedt reached 2nd on a 2-base throwing error.  Rortvedt moved to 3rd on a lineout, and scored on a passed ball.  JTIII hit his 29th HR. 

After RHRP Jake Cousins pitched a clean 6th, RHRP Bobby Miller entered in the 7th.  Things did not go as well.  Miller gave up a single and 2-run HR in the 7th.  He allowed a pair of singles after the HR but no additional runs.  

In the bottom of the 7th, Fitzgerald and DH Matt Gorski each hit solo HR’s, and 4 walks brought home a 3rd run in the inning. 

Miller had a chance to put the 7th behind him.  It started out well when he got two quick outs.  But then a pair of BB and a 3-run HR put Sugar Land back in the game.  Miller walked the next batter, and RHRP Paul Gervase was summoned to end the threat.  Gervase struck out the side in the 9th for the save (5).    

·      Ryan Fitzgerald – 3-5, 1 run, 3 RBI, HR (15)

·      James Tibbs III – 2-3, 2 BB, 2 runs, 2 RBI, HR (29)

·      Chris Newell – 1-3, 1 BB, 1 run, 1 RBI, HR (1)

·      Matt Gorski – 1-4, 1 BB, 1 run, 1 RBI, HR (4) 

JTIII became the second player in the Minors since at least 2005 to record 100 RBI, 100 runs scored, and 100 walks in a single season,

 

Box Score 

 

Tulsa Drillers 3 – NW Arkansas Naturals (KC) 2 

RHSP Christian Zazueta continues to roll.  He had a tough 1st and 2nd inning but settled in nicely after the 2nd.  In the 1st, a leadoff double and single put runners on the corners with nobody out. A groundout moved the runner to 2nd.  A sac fly brought the run in. 

With one out in the top of the 2nd, C Griffin Lockwood-Powell hit a game tying HR (8). 

NWA took the lead with a 2-out HR in the 2nd. 

Zazueta retired 9 of the final 10 batters he faced, with the only baserunner reaching on a BB.  That is rare occurrence for him.  In 55 IP at Tulsa, he has walked 8 batters with 78 K.  The area where he needs to improve is HR.  He has given up 9 HR.  Regardless of the HR, he is not overwhelmed at the AA level. 

The Dodgers have had pretty decent success with pitchers from Mexico.  Is it out of line to believe that Zazueta could replicate Fernando and Urías?  Okay so Zazueta is not LH.  They also had some good innings early on in the career of LHRP Victor Gonzalez.  

Tulsa took the lead in the 4th.  CF Kole Myers led off and was HBP.  He was balked to 2nd.  1B Jake Gelof singled to put Myers at 3rd. With 2 outs, SS Elijah Hainline, DH Sean McLain, and RF Jose Izarra all drew walks with the last two forcing in runs and a 3-2 lead.  

Tulsa got some very good relief pitching with three pitchers throwing 4.0 scoreless innings.  I was pleased with LHP Luke Fox.  He was one of my pre-season’s must watch, and he came down with another injury filled season.  I wonder if he is getting converted to relief to limit his innings.  

Hainline was the only Driller with 2 hits, including a double (16).  GLP’s HR (8) was the only other XBH. 

The Drillers have now won nine of their past ten games.  They improved their season record to 87-49, nine more wins than any Drillers team has ever recorded in the 49-season history of the franchise. 

Box Score 

 

Dayton Dragons (Reds) 5 – Great Lakes Loons 0 

The Achilles heel for Great Lakes is the bullpen.  RHSP Cam Leiter allowed 1 hit and 1 BB with 4 K over the first 3.0 IP.  He got the first two batters out in the 4th, but the next two batters singled.  Manager Jair Fernandez felt it best to pull Leiter after 60 pitches.  The problem is that means the Great Lakes bullpen is called on.  I try to stay positive with the MiLB players, but when I see certain pitchers enter the game, I already have a bad feeling.  LHRP Matt Lanzendorfer is one of those.   The bad feeling was deserved.  Lanzendorfer walked the first batter to load the bases and then surrendered a bases clearing double.  The 4th run scored on a catcher’s interference.  

Why not let Leiter try to pitch out of the jam?  Apparently 60 pitches is his limit.  Thus, the decision to pull Leiter was easy, but the choice to replace him?  

LHRP Cody Morse was called to pitch the 5th and 6th innings.  He retired the side in order in the 5th but gave up a leadoff HR in the 6th.  He did retire the next three batters. 

RHRP Dilan Figueredo pitched a scoreless 7th and 8th inning. 

The offense was MIA.  The Loons managed 5 singles, with SS Emil Morales the only GL hitter with 2 hits.  The Loons put two runners on base in 4 of the 9 innings but ended up 0-8 wRISP. 

Great Lakes had a very good year and showcased perhaps a few of the future LAD stars. How many of Charles Davalan, Eduardo Quintero, Emil Morales, Nico Perez, and Eduardo Guerrero will get that chance at AA Tulsa next year.  All five deserve that chance. 

Box Score

 

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  1. Mark Timmons14h ago

    I sure am glad I did not go to the Debacle in Dayton last night. Disappointing end to the Loons' season.

    Cassidy asked yesterday what I didn't like about the Pressbox.

    1. It's a clique - and they look down on bloggers because they feel superior.
    2. Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. All they talk about are people...
    3. They are such small thinkers... I can't relate, and I'm over it!
  2. Duke Not Snider20h ago

    Just heard Joe Davis's call on the highlights.... "This ball's back... It is gone! Grand slam! Kyle Tucker is alive!"

    Pretty funny. Hope he stays alive.

  3. dodgerpatch13h agoEdited

    A few of you might appreciate this. I'm in DC right now. Got in late last night and headed over the Pentagon while it was still September 11. I wanted to see the 9/11 Memorial there on the 25th anniversary. I was more moved than I thought I would be, and it brought back a lot of memories of that day - and emotions of that time.

    One of my memories, one I'll never forget, is in the days afterwards, when we were collectively trying to process what happened, and figure out how to go on with our lives as a country. Baseball was going to be how we began to heal.

    I can hear Vin's voice - the way he would say "Farmer John" in his voiceover ads, him calling Gibby's homer, even calling Larsen's perfect game - which was before my time, but one of his iconic moments. To me, though, this was Vin at his absolute best. He took that moment, and with in his midwestern, down-to-Earth humility and simplicity, told us it was going to be alright, and that it was time to get up, dust ourselves off, and to get back to the job of living. It was perhaps the most American thing I've ever witnessed. And it still affects me.

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  4. philjones10h ago

    Fun article Bear. I especially loved the view of the configuration of the Coliseum. Putting a 42 foot high screen up to block homers, were like measures we resorted to a kids to keep the whiffle ball out of the mean neighbor's yard.

    Nice win. What’s that 7 straight? Boy do I hope Kyle Tucker has found a new lease on life as a Dodger. 5 RBI…have a day.

    Snell could have easily had a shutout. I like the 8 strikeouts but they eat up pitch counts and he wasn’t very efficient at 101 pitches thru 5.2. His first game back he just pointed the zone and attacked hitters but lately he’s back to being less efficient.

    Be nice to get Freddie back to first defensively. Kike is a great utility guy but doesn’t display the best footwork at first base. Him whiffing the base was pretty weird. He has a tendency, also, to not wait to read throws from infielders and stride toward the throw. Instead he strides out too early and gets out of position to receive the throw. It’s pretty simple - rule #1 at first - keep your right foot in contact with the base and stride TOWARDS the throw.

    Many things are gone from today’s baseball. One I never see anymore is a pitch-out. Or at least a modified pitch-out, where ahead in the count you throw a fastball a foot outside to allow the catcher to get a jump on the throw and maybe get a swing. Phillips, bottom 6, was up in the count with Sanoja at first. He’s obviously going to steal 2nd. Hell, you could pitch-out twice. Of course, Sanoja steals 2nd and scored on Ramirez’s double, costing Snell an earned run and breaking up the shutout. Sanoja may have scored from first on the double, anyway, but maybe not. Way too often singles and walks become doubles vs the Dodgers because we don’t hold runners or help our catchers. A pitch-out of modified pitch-out might help the catchers in that area.

  5. Bumsrap13h ago

    But, can he hit in LA as well now?

  6. dodgertifosi21h ago

    Good to see Tucker get it going. Dodgers will need him down the stretch and in the playoffs especially with Shohei ailing. That outing yesterday by Bobby Miller probably ended any thoughts of him being a candidate for the postseason. dePaula looked very good at the plate, calm and collected. hit the ball hard couple of times and if the 1b does not make a great play he has his first hit already.

    Maybe the Dodgers give Morales and Quintero a couple of games at AA as they did with dePaula and Hope last year .

  7. Lionelsmirk1h ago

    Dear all,

    I'm Ducks fan and I will no longer be talking any kind of shit at all. We got curbstomped today.

    vr,

    Lionel S.

  8. Badger7h ago

    Glasnow ain’t right.

  9. Andrew V Forte10h ago

    4:10 PM ET

    Dodgers (90-57) Marlins (72-76)

    SP Tyler Glasnow R 4-0 3.12 ERA SP Tyler Phillips R 5-6 3.51 ERA

    Confirmed Lineup CF Tommy Edman S 1B F. Freeman L SS Mookie Betts R 3B Max Muncy L RF Kyle Tucker L LF T. Hernandez R DH J. De Paula L C H. Feduccia L 2B A. Freeland S

    In Domed Stadium LINE LAD -171

  10. Andrew V Forte11h ago

    Saturday Dodger Affiliates' Schedule 4:05 p.m. PT: Oklahoma City (Christian Romero) vs. Sugar Land (Josh Hendrickson) 4:05 p.m.: Tulsa (Patrick Copen) at Northwest Arkansas (Felix Arronde)

  11. Michael "Bear" Norris12h ago

    I was impressed with JDP's at bats. He did not seem overmatched at all. But I was wondering how some of the players at AAA must have felt about him getting promoted over them. Early games today and tomorrow. USC game on Big 10 network tonight.

  12. Cassidy13h ago

    Tucker sure could have saved all of us a lot of grief if he would only have followed the game plan of Snell and Glasnow for the year and just showed up for the last month and done this!

  13. 4-Gens13h ago

    A few observations: 1. I am now officially concerned about Shohei's health. At first, I thought his injuries were overblown to give him rest, but it appears that his injuries are real and severe enough to be a major concern for the playoffs (and even longer term?).

    1. It's is nice to see the bats heating-up against mediocre teams--which is expected--- but we'll need plate discipline and clutch hitting in the playoffs to scratch out 2-3 runs against the MLB's top tier pitchers.
    1. My biggest concern remains the bullpen and having a couple lock-down arms in high-leverage 1-run playoff games. Roberts appears to be giving everyone a chance to be that guy, but I don't think we have anyone we can fully trust against the opposing team's heart-of-the-order. Scott, Vesia, Dryer, Phillips have not proven they can hold a lead, Diaz is a huge question mark, Roki was great last year but had propensity to give up HRs which does not play well in tight games, and Henriquez has the stuff (at times) to be a closer but needs to be more consistent/dependable. All said, when our excellent SP exits after 6th or 7th inning (8 if Yamamoto), it may be a white-knuckle adventure.
  14. Badger15h agoEdited

    I moved to Van Nuys from Raytown Missouri in late summer of ‘58. Lived in a house that I was told Alfalfa lived in at on time. Became a Dodger fan immediately. Moved to Canoga Park soon after where I lived until 9th grade. Summers were terrific in Southern California back then. A lot of baseball being played during the day and falling asleep every night listening to Vin Scully and Jerry Doggett.

    The Dodgers are taking care of business against teams they are supposed to beat. Yes, I said supposed to beat. I think it’s safe to say this current lineup would face a stronger challenge against better competition - like any of the playoff teams. They will need Ohtani and Freeman in October.

    Something was mentioned about Snell being a great pitcher. In my opinion he had two great years but that was yesteryear. He hasn’t been great with the Dodgers. Great starting pitchers throw more than 80 innings. A lot more. He’s good right now, as is Glasnow. Skubal and Yamamoto are close to great. Having watched greatness up close in Koufax and Drysdale, then Hershiser and Kershaw, my bar for greatness is set rather high.

    Tucker. There have been a few of us who have maintained we won’t know his value until year’s end. I remain hopeful he will extend the middle of this lineup through to November.

    DePaula looks like the real deal. When and how will he be used going forward? Is he the DH through to the 23rd? And what about next year? Guess we’ll burn that bridge when we come to it.

  15. Daytona Jack16h ago

    Bear, Great nostalgia for us old Brooklyn guys.

    If Tucker continues his climb back, our chances improve dramatically. Joe brought out an interesting fact just before Tucker smoked his Granny. Tucker was hitting.400 with bases loaded. Clutch? Yeah, you betcha. Edman is doing what an old school leadoff is supposed to do. He was 0-3, but walked and scored twice. Puting guys on base still works , especially stressing opposing pitchers. Big win streak without Ohtani. Just saying.

  16. Duke Not Snider21h agoEdited

    Wasn't Ryan Fitzgerald with the Giants last season, or maybe two seasons back? If I'm thinking of the same guy, he had some good moments in the bigs. There are plenty of these "4A" types on the Dodgers, including OKC legend Ryan Ward and stalwart Landon Knack. I'd love to see the Dodgers send a package to some needy, malnourished team (like the Angels) for a good prospect, especially one who plays catcher. Very happy to see Kyle Tucker come alive today in the cleanup spot. My son has been predicting that Tucker would "go off in September." One day, of course, is not a trend. But here's hoping it's start. Kudos, also, to no-longer-maligned Max Muncy. With Shohei, Freddie and Pages all out of the lineup, Roberts had Max bat second--and he got on base four times in five plate appearances, with 3 hits and a walk. Eight straight wins now at the right time. Could the Dodgers catch the Brewers for best record?

    Thanks for today's bit o' Dodger history, Bear. It bums me a bit to think of how local boy Duke Snider would come home to LA-- he was straight outta Compton, to be precise--and face those colossus Coliseum dimensions. But Don Drysdale--Bobby Redford's teammate at Van Nuys High--certainly did well. (I always root for the locals.)

  17. Lionelsmirk23h ago

    Eduardo Guerrero?

    Not familiar with his profile