Why I Changed My Mind on Tyler Glasnow

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1. With the window narrowing each year with Mookie and Freeman, we need to win now and GlasNOW gives us a better chance!

   1. Mark, you mentioned yesterday that Yamamoto’s agent also reps Diaz and Senga. He also represents Glasnow.

2. Good morning, everyone. Getting close to Christmas. Nice analysis Mark. The big word though is IF. If Glasnow can stay healthy, if he can maintain that kind of success. He is motivated that one can see and he wants to be here. But they still need at least one more stud pitcher.

   1. Good Morning Bear, doesn’t that “IF” apply to every single player though?

      1. Yes, it does, but based on his injury history, and the fact they traded for this guy to be an ace type of pitcher, it is a bigger deal. We all know injuries are part of the game, but the Dodgers won 100 games last season with their ENTIRE starting staff spending at least some time on the IL. That is part of the game now. But they are COUNTING on this guy big time. Only two times in his entire career has he pitched over 100 innings. Last season being one of them. Sorry, that for me is a HUGE red flag.

3. Agree completely. Add to that the guy seams to be very likeable and should fit in well with the team.

4. Just me, but I think the Dodgers would be better off with Yamamoto and a #2 Imanaga who is more reliable than Glasnow plus keeping Pepiot and DeLuca than Yamamoto, Glasnow and Margot.

   1. I agree. They are spending money, spend more and get the best possible. I totally am not sold on Margot, and Glasnow is brittle. If you trade, stay away from the oft injured guys. Cease would have been a better choice.

      1. Yep. Another way of putting it for people. In my scenario you have an extra starting pitcher (Pepiot) and DeLuca who are both homegrown Dodgers instead of Margot, think about that, instead of Margot. Then a more reliable Imanaga instead of Glasnow.

      2. How do you define “best?”

         What makes Pitcher A better than Pitcher B?

         Is Yamamoto “The Best?” He hasn’t thrown a single pitch in the MLB. Could he be great? Sure. Does the fact that he hasn’t thrown a single pitch in the MLB create a question mark? Yeah.

         Would Cease have been a better choice? Why?
         – his ceiling or talent is clearly not as high or good as Glasnow’s
         – he had two decent years followed by a mediocre year where his velo ticked downward a full MPH.
         – he’s under team control, and how motivated are the ChiSox to sell? People are flipping out b/c the Dodgers gave up Pepiot. What do you think the ChiSox would be asking for? They’re going to ask for Miller – to start. You willing to trade Miller for Cease?

         I keep reading comments here gushing over Gerrit Cole. Is he “The Best?” Why?
         – durability? Ok. I’ll grant you that. However, I could make a plausible argument that this works against him in the long run. In this modern game, a guy just can’t have season after season of throwing 200 innings at 96+ MPH maximum effort. The arm just wears out.

         Here’s my bold prediction: Gerrit Cole will start to decline in the near future simply because he threw too many pitches early in his career. I used this example the other day, but look at Bumgarner. He’s really not that old, and he was never really injured during his career, but his career is over at 34. The human arm just has a finite number of maximum effort pitches before it wears out (I know, Scherzer, Verlander and Nolan Ryan are freaks).

         Glasnow was a smart trade for both sides.

   2. I think it’s just you, Eric, especially because that ship has sailed.
      Like Mark, I’ve been wary of Glasnow for all the usual reasons–and maybe those reasons will prove valid. He’s been injury-prone and one successful surgery may not cure all that ails him.
      We will get to follow his and Pepiot’s progress this season. If Pepiot’s a solid workhorse and Glasnow keeps getting hurt, we’ll know which team ‘won” the deal.
      At any rate, this is another deal that affirms AF’s faith in medical science. The Ohtani deal is another. With those two deals, AF has committed $835 million to players returning from significant surgery. A few other pitchers have also secured contracts despite injuries requiring surgery.
      There’s still no guarantee that the Dodgers will land Yamamoto or Imanaga. I think the Dodgers were smart to secure Glasnow early. The wealthy Dodgers and the small-market Rays lined up well for this deal.

   3. You and Blind Joe. Why even pose that hypothetical? The deal’s done.

      And no, keeping Pepiot would not have been better. Pepiot is almost indistinguishable from Sheehan, Stone, Grove, Knack, et. al. At some point you have to trade from surplus to get what you lack. The Dodgers lack a true, ace-potential, front line starter, and you just don’t have enough slots in a rotation to pitch all of these untested prospects.

      I popped in a read some of the comments in Jeff’s site right after the trade. I was laughing out loud. People were losing their minds because the Dodgers gave up Pepiot for Glasnow, as if those two pitchers are in any way equal.

      Glasnow, statistically speaking, has some of the best pure stuff in baseball. He is second to De Grom over the last few years, and I’m not talking about what I read or my eyeballs, but a direct statistical measurement of the effectiveness of his pitching arsenal.

5. I do not think having one injury that was undiagnosed for almost four years and cost him almost five years does not make him injury-prone or brittle. It was the same damn freaking injury, and IF ANYTHING, it shows he can withstand pain. ONE INJURY led to all this.

   1. Agree. Some here think they signed him without doing due diligence. Obviously they consulted with Dr. ElAttrache & Dr. Meister (who did the surgery) before pulling the trigger. The oblique & back injuries could be the results of compensating for the arm problems as well. Who knows; when the time comes we’ll see what we see.

      1. But don’t you think AF and the other decision makers consulted with the surgeon(s) before they let May take the mound after his first TJ surgery and look what happened.

         1. Point well taken. Shame too, May had nasty stuff.

         2. What do you do instead? Consult a psychic? Read some Tarot cards?

            Getting expertise from someone who has the experience, training and reputation is still the smart strategy, in spite of the fact that someone also gets it wrong sometimes.

   2. I get it, they have a lot more information than we do. But the fact still remains that he hasn’t shown the ability to stay on the field so far. Prove me wrong, and I can accept that. Pepiot is still nothing more than a prospect. But now he needs to prove he is totally healthy.

   3. Last season Glasnow missed two months because of oblique strain. (A lot of that going around.)
      I don’t see a strong connection between forearm issues and an oblique issue.
      We all hope that Glasnow, at age 30, will suddenly transform from the fragile “glass giraffe” to a sturdy workhorse. I remain skeptical. Given his history, it would be surprising if Glasnow could get from 120 innings (his major league high) to 150.
      Whether or not the Dodgers sign Yamamoto or Imanaga, perhaps a six-man rotation could help Glasnow avoid injury.

      1. One of the guys we traded for Glasnow missed almost the whole dam season with an oblique!

         I think to characterize him as a “glass” anything is more hyperbole than he might be an ace. It was only one continuous, undiagnosed injury. The glass analogy does not apply.

6. America!

   You are free to believe what you want. I changed my mind about Ohtani after I found out how they pay him. I was against it. Same with Glasnow.

   I disagree with Friedman that Lux is a SS. AF is not perfect, but he is the ONLY Head Baseball Guy who has his name attached to a player’s contract. In other words, he is better than anyone else in the business, and his record says so unless you are so obtuse as to believe that championships are the only way of measuring worth. I can’t help you with that!

   1. Anybody’s first take can be from habit, a gut feeling, or unavailable information that one produced changes the picture. The ability to change one’s mind is a gift and not a weakness.

      The cousin to the above might be: Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

      A person that can’t change their mind once new or better information becomes available might as well hang a big sign that says gullible around their neck.

      1. Good point! I was also skeptical about Ohtani. At least, until the parameters of the deal were made public. I told myself (disclaimer: I made this comment to myself), only a fool would be against that deal, as Ohtani put the Dodgers in a position where they will have an opportunity to capitalize on their investment before they have to payoff the contract.

         It is truly a gift to be able to disconnect from ones own bias position to properly value opportunities, or weigh risk for that matter.

7. Good analysis Mark! It is clear that some folks see risk in the acquisition and subsequent extension due to his injury history; however, Dodger brass evidently see it as an opportunity to capitalize on a pitcher who has posted some elite underlying stats to support what we’ve seen on the field; i.e. last season Glasnow was 7th in the majors in Stuff+, 3rd in FIP and 3rd in K/9 among starters with 100 plus innings.

   When you consider that a single undiagnosed injury, which was successfully remediated, was the main culprit behind his oft injured tag, the Dodgers not only acquired a front line starter at a very reasonable cost, but managed to extend him to a deal that is more suitable for a mid-rotation arm than the front line talent he brings to the table, it is easy to understand the upside that the acquisition and extension of Glasnow means to the team.

   This deal epitomizes the chess vs checkers analogy. Unfortunately, some folks are simply risk averse. To a fault at that.

   1. So mid-rotation starters get paid $30 million a year and $136 million guaranteed now?
      I guess I am playing checkers.

      1. $27M AAV over 5 years is certainly not indicative of a front line starter.

         My point is that had his injury been properly diagnosed and corrected, we would likely be talking about a pitcher who would command $30M+ per season over 8-10 year period.

         $27M AAV is not a bargain, but a 5-year deal was likely agreed to because of his injury history.

         The opportunity the Dodgers likely weighed is whether this was a bargain, all things considered (including health)?

         Is there risk? You bet! What about the reward potential? It is higher than the risk IMO.

8. They still need pitching help at least in the starting rotation. That is totally clear. Who will that be? No one at this point knows. What we do know is we got beat by a team we owned during the regular season. Worse than that, they were swept. That needs to change. I can reserve my full take on the trade until I see Glasnow in spring and after the season starts.

   1. I agree, we need another starter. However, it may be someone on a one-year deal or someone we could trade next season. We already have Glasnow and Ohtani locked up next season. Miller is likely to take up the 3rd slot. With Gonsolin and May returning from injury, the Dodgers could potentially find themselves in a position where some tough decisions will have to be made with our young core and Walker Buehler. Perhaps, move to a six-man rotation?

      I would love to see Yamamoto in Dodger blue, but I think that will directly affect Walker Buehler’s future with the organization. I am a fan of Buehler’s moxy and would love to see him retire as a Dodger, but will have zero complaints if we sign Yamamoto.

      Nevertheless, the question becomes what happens next season or the second half of this season?

      Rotation in 2025:
      Ohtani
      Glasnow
      Miller
      Gonsolin?
      May?
      Sheehan/Grove/etc?
      Buehler (FA)?

9. Interesting analysis Mark.
   It sounds like Glasnow thinks he pitched with a torn UCL from 2018-2021 before having surgery. Then he came back from TJ surgery and pitched a little better in 2023 with a 3.53 era in the regular season in a career high 120 innings and a 5.40 era in the playoffs. But he will be an ace in 2024 and worth the $30 million salary for the next 5 years. Let’s hope so!

10. Blind Joe, you are absolutely exhausting. I have posted 3 stats for 9 pitchers (R Ray, Bieber, Snell, Alcantara, Burnes, Verlander, DeGrom, Cole, & Glasnow) since 2019 (Glasnow’s 1st season as a starter and as a Ray) twice. The 3 stats are ERA, ERA+, and FIP. All of these guys except Glasnow have won the Cy Young. That kind of says the other 8 are (or have been) Aces.

    For ERA, Glasnow is 3rd, ERA+ 4th, FIP tied for 3rd. Cole beats him in ERA & ERA+ but Glasnow is better in FIP. So his numbers place him well in the top half of this illustrious group. Hence my conclusion that if he is able to stay on the field, he is absolutely an Ace. Obviously a big if.

    Yesterday you stated he can’t go through the lineup 3 times and that his stuff flattens out. Mark’s numbers above on innings pitched by game and his overall numbers on these 3 stats certainly refute that conclusion. Please at least make your opinions somewhat fact based.

    1. WORD

    2. Cool now tell us all how many innings he pitched compared to the rest of those guys.

       1. Excellent point.
          JayB just ignores that Glasnow has never thrown more than 120 innings in the MLB. And he will soon be 31. And he has a 5.72 postseason era!
          He may end up being a good pitcher but he has not been an ace yet. A lot of money to bet on potential. I would take Buehler all day long over Glasnow.

11. Yamamoto’s decision should trigger a wave of moves.
    If the Dodgers don’t land him, will AF become be more aggressive in pursuing Burnes? Cease is also a possiblity–but it looks like Orioles or Braves have the inside track.
    The Brewers may not want to deal Burnes–but they can also be hoping to maximize his value in a sellers’ market.
    The “overpay” can be justified if the Dodgers decide that Burnes is the true ace they need.
    Glasnow + Margot for Pepiot + DeLuca was not an overpay at all. It was a straight-up transaction in which a wealthy franchise took on contracts from a small market team that prefered cheaper, younger replacements. There was no sweetener, no window dressing.
    AF’s history with Willy Adames has always helped fueled the speculation for a Burnes + Adames deal. The offer could start with Lux + Sheehan. Not enough? OK, Busch is in the deal too. And maybe another pitcher, like Grove or Knack. Are the Brewers thin at catcher? The Dodgers aren’t.
    Dodgers could end up dealing 4 or even 5 ML-calibre players for an ace and an SS who solidifies the infield defense and brings righty power.
    And it wouldn’t be an overpay if it led to the World Series.

    1. I would do the following deal:

       Rojas, Lux, Sheehan, Knack, and Busch for Adames and Burnes IF the Dodgers do not get Yamamoto.

       Then, I would try to sign them as free agents if needed.

       If they get Yamamoto, there is no need for Burnes.

       Burnes
       Glasnow
       Buehler
       Miller
       Stone
       Kershaw
       Yarbrough

       Unless they just want to annihilate everyone.

12. Corbin Burnes’ interview on #FTLive yesterday was interesting to say the least. He made it very clear (to me anyway) that he will be testing free agency after this season. In fact, he’s excited about it. Milwaukee needs to figure this out or they’ll end up with nothing for him.

    1. If the Brewers are out of it at the ASB, look for them to move him then.

13. Stuff+ is my new favorite pitching stat. Look it up over in Fangraphs. I’m not going to post a link. Every time I do my post lands in jail.

    In essence, what it does is use all of the cumulative Statcast data on pitching movement and location and compiles a measure of its effectiveness. From the Fangraphs description:

    “Stuff+ looks only at the physical characteristics of a pitch. Important features include, but are not limited to, release point, velocity, vertical and horizontal movement, and spin rate. A pitcher’s secondary pitches are defined based on their primary fastball — with “primary” defined by usage in an outing — and so are judged by velocity and movement differentials along with raw velocity and movement numbers. The model also includes “axis differential,” a statistic that attempts to describe the difference between the movement expected by spin alone and the observed movement affected by the phenomenon described as seam-shifted wake.

    Generally, the model aims to capture the “nastiest” pitches in baseball, using a decision tree-based model to capture the nonlinear relationships that exist across release points, velocities, pitch movement, and more.”

    In short, it statistically quantifies the “nastiness” of “filthy stuff” as a means to assess its effectiveness, and gives individual scores to each pitch category – four seam, sinker, cutter, slider, curve, splitter, change, etc.

    So, when I look of the Stuff+ score for MLB pitchers from the 2019-2023 seasons, and add a minimum innings value that filters out the relief pitchers and leaves the starters, Glasnow has a Stuff+ score of 134, which is second only to deGrom’s 144. Gerrit Cole was 127, same as Corbin Burnes.

    Glasnow has as high a ceiling as anyone in baseball, and he’s coming into the second year of being fully back from TJ surgery, which fixed a lingering injury.

    1. The people whose minds are already made up don’t want to hear that crap!

       😉

       1. Possibly a little more fiber in their “brain diet” would help.

       2. Thanks for your comments Blind Joe. I agree with your Glasnow opinion and appreciate your views.
          Looks like Dodgers are now getting Yamamoto.
          So Glasnow will likely be the 3rd, 4th or 5th starter after Yamamoto, Buehler, Ohtani, and Miller.

14. Patch: my point precisely. If his injuries are pretty much behind him, this could turn out to be a steal at $27MM AAV. It may not wind up that way, but I choose to believe our skilled front office did their proper due diligence. That doesn’t always mean it will work out, but it certainly increases the odds.

15. Can Ryan Yarborough be counted on as 4th or 5th starter ? he hasnt been mentioned yet but think he could fit bill if needed.

    1. He can be a spot starter. I would not count on him all season. He’s more of a role player.

       1. Didnt even make the playoff roster

16. Not only that, you disagree in sort of a dickish way

17. This article is a vivid example of Dodger hometown hype. If the Padres had traded for Glassie you’d be writing how the Padres got screwed trading for damaged goods and how he’s been a major disappointment.

    THIS IS 100% TRUE

    1. Well! From
       God’s mouth to you. Must be a hell of a burden to carry all that around with you!

18. You arrived at your opinion “after watching him pitch for years with the same injury.” … is what it should have said. It is not often that a player loses large portions of several seasons to the same injury before it is diagnosed and fixed. However, I have pitched enough to know how hard it is to throw when you can’t get loose, or your arm hurts. Glasnow is almost “giddy” with the way his arm now feels. Someone is right about this and someone is wrong. We shall find out… soon enough.

    AF must have a lot of confidence in Glasnow, because this is the biggest contract he has ever given out to a pitcher. Did I say EVER? Of course, he’s a loser because he has won just a single World Series, eve though he has the best record in baseball during his tenure with the Dodgers.

    1. You seem to have a weird habit of not just disagreeing with people but totally trying to trash their opinion and then telling them you respect them. That’s just weird dude.

       1. See? You decided he has a glass arm. Did you come to that conclusion from your scary long distance abilities to discern medical conditions? Because I think it’s pretty clear that it’s been said that he pitched with the same injury for something like 3 years. I don’t think that’s an indication of a glass arm.

19. As per Noah Camras of Dodgers Nation:

    “A source confirmed that Shohei Ohtani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto are expected to be at Sofi Stadium tonight for the Rams vs. Saints game.”

    First Shohei defers most of his salary for 10 years, then he becomes their best recruiter.
    This guy is truly a team player.

    1. Dammit to hell. I was supposed to go but this crap got in the way.

       Hopefully they announce Yamamoto is signing as soon as the Rams score their first TD

       1. What if they get shut out?

          I think this is just a great job by his agent.
          The minute the other GM’s see those guys together at the game, they’ll all be increasing their offers.

       2. Hold on.
          False alarm.
          Now Camras is saying he won’t be able to make the game.
          Never believe anything unless you hear it from Passan.

20. I think Glasnow will be fine. First line pitcher. Injuries behind him.

    There is always risk.

    No way I’m trading Sheehan or Lux for that matter.

    There is no guarantee you could re-sign Burnes in 2026. You could trade some top prospects and get nothing except one year of service.

    I honestly don’t get Adames. Rather have Lux.

    The Dodgers had Seager and Turner. Allowed Corey to walk, never made an offer to Trea.

    So now they have Lux. Let him play.

    Focus on pitching. Don’t get sidetracked.

    1. I like Gavin’s bat much better than Adames’.

       It just boils down to that I do not believe Lux can play SS.

       If he can play SS – keep him!

       He can’t!

       1. With Mookie at 2B, Lux is w/o a position on this team.

          Thus, he’s trade bait, ..at some point.

          1. He’s the starting SS.

             1. Yeah I know. I was just taking Mark’s hypothetical to it’s conclusion.

21. It is not loyalty Blind Joe, it is about finding and capitalizing on opportunities. Stats are resources utilized to quantify positions. A scout confirming or negating an attribute identified during a scouting session; hence, the eye test. In the case of Glasnow, the stats support the eye test (what you see). He is a pitcher who possesses elite pitch ability. The only knock has been his ability to stay on the field. When you look at the underlying problem and discover that his issue was primarily linked to an undiagnosed condition that has been surgically corrected, you can reasonably weigh the risk. In addition, when you put that to the test with the available data, sample size of 120 innings, LAD brass concluded the benefit superseded the risk.

    Once upon time the state of baseball could be split between two camps: 1) those that followed stats and 2) those who deferred to the proverbial gut instinct. While I am not privy to insider information, given the amount of data analysts that MLB clubs are hiring these days, that belief seems to be a thing of the past. Teams still employ scouts and utilize stats simultaneously.

    I don’t think anyone is saying Glasnow is great based stats alone. Merely, that the stats support what we have identified with the eye test. He stuff is filthy!

    1. “… you can reasonably weigh the risk. … when you put that to the test with the available data, sample size of 120 innings, LAD brass concluded the benefit superseded the risk.”

       That’s exactly it. It is a cost benefit analysis with multiple inputs, including:

       – He’s actually available (Why are we making comparisons to Cole or Zac Gallen?)
       – The Rays were eager to sell and lower payroll so his trade value is reasonable (unlike with Burnes or Cease)
       – His prior injury makes his trade value and extension AAV reasonable
       – His peripheral stats and scouting reports and performance indicate a ceiling that as high as anyone in the league
       – There is every reasonable expectation (based on consulting medical experts) that his prior injury is behind him

       Every time a club pays a player money to play there is risk involved. Gerrit Cole could step in a gopher hole in his back yard while playing with his kid and end his career. AF is a former Wall Street exec and understands how to do this – and he’s good at it.

       1. Oh, great! You’re not another Commie, are you? I already have Bluto to contend with (jokes, Bear … jokes).

          And to actually clarify, being a good WS exec means understanding how to properly analyze risk and assess value to maximize capital return. Capital return, in this case, means wins, or WAR or winning the WS or all of the above.

22. This entire post could have been encapsulated into:
    I think I’d prefer having mediocre Ace minus pitchers (without DeGrom like stuff) like Logan Webb or Zac Gallen to Glassnow. Better chance they’ll stay in the field.

    And we would all be better off.

    1. I was starting to respond to his post, but having to sift through all of that for points to address just seemed like a lot of work.

    2. Okay!

23. SF Giants have been notified they are out of the Yamamoto sweepstakes. That’s great news for the Dodgers as it had been reported the Giants were prepared to outbid everyone to land Yamamoto.

    Should have a final decision in a day or two. Yankees or Dodgers?

    1. Maybe it was all that love Posey was giving to the Bay area and San Fran specifically when he was musing about why they didn’t get Ohtani

       1. thoughts and prayers

24. Well, I for one am going to have to wait and see. I have read all the pros and cons, and it seems to me many fans are split right down the middle on the trade but most also agree we need more. I give a rat’s ass about stats. I have always been an eye test type of guy. I like to see what they can do on the field. That stats tell one side of the story. My eyes tell me the rest.

    1. But even “eyes” and “stats” won’t always reveal the complete picture. The trauma of pain or injury inside one’s body is another factor, ..and it’s much harder to quantify in another man.

       1. BANG!

          Nailed it!

       2. I am not stupid. I know for a fact that Bellinger’s injury was a huge reason he was so bad for a couple of years. Many kept saying he was lazy, or not doing his work. They even said he was uncoachable. Same with Muncy. It took Max the better part of two seasons to even resemble the player he was in 21. My eye test is when a player is at his best. When he is out there every day playing his butt off.

25. WE GOT HIM!!!

    12 YEARS, 325MIL BABY!!

    1. PLUS the 51 MILLION DOLLAR posting fee.

26. Reports that we landed the 2nd Japanese star. WOW!!!!

27. Hell yes! Yamamoto a Dodger

28. That’s 1 billion dollars just for him and OHTANI.

29. I’m on Cloud 9 Million!!! Ohtani, now Yamamoto. The Dodgers aren’t messin’ around!!

    And guess what? Imanaga and Giolito are still in play, and AF still has plenty of chips to make a blockbuster deal this winter.

    Wow, just wow!!

30. What crazy off season so far!! Don’t think we’re done

31. That’s from a “source” to MLB.com Mark Feinsand–which seems a lot more solid than the Ohtani-to-Toronto stuff. And $325 million is yet more crazy money. Mindboggling. Dodgers have made a $1.1 billion commitment in the last few days to secure 3 players. Suddenly it seems like Shohei structured his deal to bring his buddy along. Which will piss off a lot owners and maybe some players too.
    That’s $325 million for a guy who has never thrown a pitch in the MLB. He’s dominated Japanese hitters–but he’s only faced MLB-level hitters in exhibition-like settings. I think Yamamoto will be really good, he’ll be a ace… but probably not nearly as dominant as he was in Japan.
    But holy moly. The Dodgers are really going all-in on their global marketing plan….Wow.

    OK… Back to baseball.
    The Dodgers should still pursue Burnes. He’s a proven ace–not a pitcher who earned his spurs in a lesser league. He’s durable–and we can’t be sure about Glasnow.
    Burnes, a Boras client, has made it clear that he has no interest in signing an extension. That could change, but it also shouldn’t matter. Renting Burnes for the 2024 season works for the Dodgers because Ohtani is waiting in the wings, expected to assume his own ace slot in the six-man rotation of 2025.
    Maybe Burnes, a Californian, will love playing for the Dodgers and want to stay, If not, vaya con dios. Or the Japanese equivalent.
    Or maybe the Dodgers should skip Burnes and call on Miami about the Jesus Lizard….

    1. Don’t forget the 51 million they have to pay the Orix Buffaloes. 376 million dollar commitment. I also read there is a opt out or two.

32. Damn.

    Let me put this news into some sort of logical context.

    Holy fuck nut, ass-sorted and otherwise unpredictably shit storm kinda happening that people predicted.

    Ya, this is why I don’t bet on sports.

    1. That may be the most cogent statement I’ve seen in the last few days on the state of what’s been going on lately.

33. AAV perspective: Scherzer & Verlander $43 million; Cole $36 million; Yamamoto $27 million. If he has a solid career with limited injuries it will end up being a hell of a deal.

34. Listening to Roggin and Rodney on AM 570 helped me wrap my mind around the fact the Dodgers will actually make money on the life of Ohtanis contract by investing the future money owed to him, which comes with no interest, in other ventures until they ultimately have to pay him. Like they have always said, sometimes Freidman and Co are playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Dodgers planned for this a few years ago, and this year they pulled the big time trigger. Yamamoto won’t break them, they could still make a run at Hader on a one year deal, whose stock has dropped a bit, but is still nasty as hell at the back end of the bullpen. Fasten your seat belts, they aren’t done yet.

35. I’d bet the farm–if I had a farm–the Dodgers will look for a “knockout punch” blockbuster trade this winter.

    Burnes, Adames, Luzardo, Cease, Roberts, whatever….

    If any of them are in play, ..LAD are willing.. to pay.

36. OK, for now the new rotation goes like this:
    Yamamoto, Glasnow, Buhler, Miller, Sheehan–and a lefty to be named later.
    Will Shohei’s contract enable an Imanaga deal too?

37. MLB scouts have called Yamamoto a dynamic, fearless “gunslinger” pitcher.

    Can’t wait to see him pitch in Dodgers Blue.

38. Definitely a six-man rotation.
    No need to mess with Yamamoto’s success, and a six-man will help limit with workload of Buhler and Glasnow.

39. Holy Piss Water! YY in Blue. Globalism & Capitalism. Dodger Radio broadcasts will now be in “American,” Spanish, and Japanese. And most importantly, we can ALL quit talking about Glassnow!! Especially me. Fucking A! And let me take this rare moment to officially kiss AF’s ass. Job Well done! He wrangled around the New York franchises and bested the Big Dogs. Betcha Mark is “giddy” as a Valley Girl!!!

40. I’m stunned!!! The Dodgers did not disappoint this off season. World Series trophy or bust!!!!

41. When George Steinbrenner was alive and owned the Yankees, they were considered the “Evil Empire” on the East Coast because he would outbid and outspend for every free agent on the market. The Dodgers are now have that title of the “Evil Empire” on the West Coast for that same reason. We have the brightest people in baseball to pull off this extradentary successful off season thus far and signed the best recruiter,Shohei Ohtani to attract future star free agents to the Dodgers from all over the world .It’s great to be a Dodger fan and to have owners that want to win. Happy Holidays to all.

    1. The Dodger owners know how to win and make lots of money too. How much has the Dodger sales price gone up this off season? 60,000 Japanese people living in LA buying lots of merchandise and attending lots of games with increased ticket prices.As a business owner myself, this was a brilliant business move to sign Ohtani and Yamamota. Brilliant!!!

42. Wowwww, what a night!
    Rams win and are almost in the playoffs and then the Dodgers get Yamamoto. Two great gifts for christmas and they both did not cost me one single dollar!:-)
    Now swing a deal for Luzardo and our rotation is the best in baseball. If it not already is.

    Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

43. Could they go for the hat trick and sign Imanaga too? Need a lefty, and that would tie up every Japanese Baseball fan as a Dodgers supporter for a generation?

    I wouldn’t imagine he’d take too much persuading…..

    1. Wat, you and I need a celebration buzz.

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