Many Dodger fans are very adept at perceiving the obvious immediately. They see that Michael Conforto cannot jump out of a boat and hit water, so they express this sentiment ad nauseam. Everyone can see the obvious, and Andrew Friedman and Brandon Gomes have their eyes on this situation. You should also know that Jeffrey Kingston, Alex Slater, Billy Gasparino, David Finley, Ismael Cruz, Galen Carr, Brandon McDaniel, Will Rhymes, and other highly experienced baseball minds like Ron Roenicke, Chase Utley, and Joel Peralta are likely involved.
I am sure they are kicking the tires all over the league, but as I have said before, Ward, Ruiz, Outman, or any other internal solution is likely worse than the present player in LF. Some of you want change just for the sake of change, and that is never good! Realistically, the Dodgers do not have an LF’er in the system that is better than what they presently have.
- Ryan Ward hit another Grand Slam last night, but no one really thinks he can play in LA. MAYBE!
- James Outman is hitting .125 in his last 15 games and is striking at at nearly a 40% clip. NO!
- Esteury Ruiz is hitting .278 and can run down any hit ball… he just might not catch it. HARD NO!
- Dalton Rushing has played a total of 10 innings this year in LF. DEFINITE NO!
Kike Hernandez can play LF against LHP. The Dodgers need a LH hitter who can catch the ball and hit RHP. All they need is a platoon player who can hit 100 points higher than Conforto. Gomes and Friedman see that. Ray Charles sees that. A player who would look good in LF (but at what cost?) would be Kyle Stowers of the Marlins. He is a LH hitter who has reverse splits. His offensive ceiling makes him a compelling asset in left field. The combination of plus power, strong contact quality, and solid approach at the plate gives him real upside. Defensively, he’s reliable, with notably good arm strength and range metrics. While not a Gold Glover, he performs well enough not to drag down the position. The only question is “What is the cost?” It would be high, but the Dodgers have the capital to overpay.
In the meantime, I am still watching Alex Freeland…
BA lists Four Rookie Ball Standouts to Keep Tabs on:
Marlon Nieves, RHP, Dodgers: The Dodgers’ system is already rich with interesting prospects, but there are a few more bubbling at the lowest levels of the minor leagues. One is Nieves, a righthander who pitches in the Arizona Complex League. Although he’s been inconsistent from outing to outing this season, his best are dazzlers. That was the case on Tuesday, when the 20-year old spun five three-hit shutout innings against the Padres. He struck out seven and walked one. Nieves mainly works with four-seam, sinking and cutting fastballs, but will mix in a mid-80s slider and very occasional low-90s changeup. This season, he’s struck out 33 but walked 20 in 34.1 innings.
“The only question is “What is the cost?” It would be high, but the Dodgers have the capital to overpay.”
Yeah, but that’s not really AF’s MO. They don’t overpay.
And besides, he presents a similar problem as a potential Bryan Reynolds acquisition: do you really want him until 2030? Is he enough to move the needle on a WS team? Or, with the gaggle of promising OF prospects the Dodgers currently have in the system, do you just plug the hole with a short-term veteran signing until one or more of them develop? That’s what Conforto was – a placeholder.
Hernandez/Kim platoon? In LF, as opposed to CF.
That’s probably as good a solution as I see.
Nice to see Roberts show some life out there.
Ward OPS is over .980, hrs hitting over .300, he deserves a shot. Why anyone would throw a strike to pages with first base open and two outs is not right in the head. The Padres have never been known for their intelligence.
Tuesday scores
Oklahoma City 8, Round Rock 7
Tulsa 6, Midland 0
Great Lakes 8, Peoria 7
Rancho Cucamonga 9, Lake Elsinore 1
ACL Dodgers 8. ACL Padres 0
Wednesday scores
Round Rock (Dane Dunning) at Oklahoma City (TBD), 10:05 AM PST
Midland (Gage Jump) at Tulsa (Patrick Copen), 10:05 AM PST
Lake Elsinore (Kash Mayfield) at Rancho Cucamonga (Christian Zazueta), 11:00 AM PST
Peoria (Cade Winquest) at Great Lakes (Luke Fox), 4:05 PM PST
For more detailed recaps,stats,schedules, daily standings and box scores for Dodger minor league teams go to the top of this page and cIick on MINOR LEAGUE AFFLIATES.
Ward OPS is over .980, hrs hitting over .300, he deserves a shot. Why anyone would throw a strike to pages with first base open and two outs is not right in the head. The Padres have never been known for their intelligence. The Dodgers best outfield prospect might not even be in Great Lakes. Quintero in low A is killing it and he’s only 19. It would be shame to trade for an outfielder who has more than a year on his contract. The dodgers outfield is set for years to come. Conforto has had enough runway to land a concord plane. The Dodgers don’t need to make a major move. The starting pitching is slowly improving getting some guys back, a reliever is always a need at the right price.
“Ward OPS is over .980, hrs hitting over .300, he deserves a shot. ”
Let the Rockies or White Sox or someone make an offer for him. The people who know the most about him (are fallible) have never indicated they think he has what it takes. It seems, to someone who admits that they aren’t a scout and has never seen him play, like a AAAA guy having a career year.
” It would be shame to trade for an outfielder who has more than a year on his contract. ”
The Dodgers could always trade an OFer if they get too many. Pages. Stowers. Any of the minor league guys. And Teo is a free agent after 2 years (team option) freeing up a spot.
Or let them pick up Conforto on the wavier wire and move Ward up. BTW, you’re right I’ve not a scout but I have seen Ward play live several times. Players “find it” at different times, perhaps Ward (“having a career Year.” In Oklahoma City has found it. .980 OPS is to good to ignore. It seems that if the Dodgers cut bait with Conforto it would free up an outfield spot. Give Ward 100 AB’s what does it hurt. To say he would be worse than Conforto is silly talk.
Looking at Ward a bit more closely
His BB rate is up 5 percentage points over last year and what he did in AA.
His K rate is down about 6 percentage points from last year and 2 percentage points from AA
He had a AAA year in between where his rates were closer, but still worse, than this year’s and he managed just an 83 wRC+.
He had a big loss of power his first go around in AAA.
The power is back. With increased plate discipline. Those are good things. Maybe a new Ryan Ward has been unlocked.
Wow, thanks for checking those stats out. All I’m saying is give the guy a shot in a postion of need.
For what it’s worth (BTV’S model has historically been quite accurate)
BTV gives Stowers a $14 million value
(If you want to argue that it’s higher. Ok. Projection systems aren’t convinced that his improvement is real. Still seems low to me given he’s only on his 2nd year if team control).
Comparable Dodger minor league players:
Mike Sirota 14
Eduardo Quintero 15
Jackson Ferris 16
Alex Freeland 21
Zyhir Hope 22
Josue DePaula 23
Would I do Sirota for him? I think so
Quintero? Probably
Ferris? Likely
The others? I want to know a lot more about Stowers than I do now.
I’m not sure the Dodgers NEED a player to platoon with Kiké. I love nearly everything about him, but I don’t think the team needs to make sure he’s getting that many starts. If a full time OF was available, the team should grab them.
That said, I don’t really see an obvious player to trade for. Mullins?
As for Stowers having reverse splits, let’s see
wRC+ vs L 116
wRC+ vs R 123
He doesn’t even have reverse splits. He has regular platoon splits, just with a narrower split than usual.
Let’s look closer anyway
vs L: BB% 6.3, K% 17.8
vs R: BB% 9.1 K% 32.3
THAT’S a reverse split. Much better K rate vs same-handed pitching. That’s not usually the case.
vs L: BABIP .396, ISO .086
vs R: BABIP .344, ISO .223
High BABIPs which suggests his overall offense will regress.
Massive difference in power. He’s crushing right-handed pitchers and is a slap hitter vs left-handed pitchers.
Two totally different profiles vs lefties and righties. Maybe he’s got two different approaches?
Or, maybe it’s sample size
Just 63 PA vs left-handed pitchers
And 198 vs right-handed pitchers
63 PA isn’t much of a sample to draw conclusions from
His career numbers
vs L: BB% 6.2, K% 20.4, BABIP .329, ISO 127, wRC+ 101
vs R: BB% 7.4%, K% 34.2, BABIP .330, ISO .158, wRC+ 90
Maybe that’s where Mark got the reverse splits from. If so, good for him for looking at the bigger sample.
Unfortunately, it’s still a really small sample – just 113 PA’s against lefties. Too small to really draw conclusions. The difference in K and BB rates, while smaller, is still interesting. The BABIPs and ISO are pretty much evened out.
Usually when someone says “reverse splits” it’s all small sample and BABIP.
This time, it’s still small sample (it almost always is because there are so many more right-handed pitchers than left-handed ones), but the huge difference in BB and K rates suggests, as I said before, a narrower split than normal.
Feeeland’s a real one. Even Ray Charles can see that.
Last time I checked, the Dodgers are pretty solid at shortstop. A month ago you could make a case for him to play third but not now. If Ray is going to see that where will he see Alex play? Man that question hurt, to dog someone because of a handicap is wrong. I’ll say my 10 Hail Mary’s and promise not to do that again
I’m all for giving Ward a shot, but the whispers by baseball people are “He’s a AAAA Player.”
They are usually right.
I am very high on Sirota. His ceiling may not be what DePaula’s is, but it’s at a Key Defensive Position.
I see this outfield in the next 2-3 years:
LF – DePaula
CF – Sirota
RF – Pages
Hope is right there too.
Keep an eye on Quintero in Low A. He’s only 19 but he’s a keeper. Rancho Cucamonca are loaded with position players. The future in LA looks bright. Mark I respectfully disagree about Kike. Other than the playoffs he hasn’t hit. I guess giving him a shot in Left is okay but I think keeping Kim as the super utility man is the way to go. I’m not understanding for example last night why Kim wasn’t playing.
I honestly do not see any need for the Dodgers to make a trade.
If they DFA Conforto, platoon Kim and Kike in LF (as M-Pop suggested) and call up Freeland to be another utilityman.
totally agree. Adding them to Teo, Pages and Edmans, you have a great OF, 2B and 2 interchangeable bench players. A group Swiss Army Knife. Offer Rojas a ML coach slot and bring up a few studs.
Caught Joe Davis in a boo boo last night. He said it was Pages first MLB game with multiple homers. Wrong Joe. Andy hit two homers in game 5 of the LCS last year against the Mets in New York. Nerve wracking game, but a nice win for the team. Sauer will be sent back down again. He probably hopes he never sees a brown and yellow uni again. I have a left field suggestion, Jesus Sanchez of the Marlins. 27 years old, arb eligible next year, hitting .255 with 7 homers. He also has stolen 7 bases and been caught once. If Miami makes Alcantara available, then AF could get both in a package deal. Sandy has had a much better June so far, ERA is 2.12 in 3 games getting 15 Ks and walking just 3 in 17 innings. Every time Ryan Pepiot takes the mound for the Rays, he makes that trade look better for them than Glasnow has for the Dodgers. He has a 4-6 record, but he is averaging almost 6 innings a game. His K to walk ratio is almost 3-1. Like most pitchers, he has allowed some homers. His WHIP is 1.104. He has logged 68 more innings for the Rays than Glasnow has for the Dodgers. Add that to what DeLuca has done for them, it looks like a Rays win to this point in time. Oh yeah, DeLuca is an excellent CF with speed.
Jesus Sanchez
BTV trade value $12 million – slightly less than Stowers (see above)
Projected by FGDC for a 108 wRC+ and just over 2 WAR per 600 PA.
A nice average player.
Speaking of average players, Pepiot. He was my favorite of the young Dodger starters (Miller, Stone, Grove, Sheehan)
With the Rays his ERA has been 12% better than average. His FIP 3% worse than average. His xFIP 2% better than average. 3.0 WAR in 220 IP. About as average as it gets. That’s not a knock. Average is good. The vast majority of players are below average.
But the team went after elite talent. Glasnow since joining the Dodgers. ERA 10% better than average. FIP 22% better than average. xFIP 29% better than average. 3.8 WAR in 152 innings. Great to elite numbers.
Despite pitching almost 70 fewer innings, Glasnow has been more productive than Pepiot.
They got Glasnow to win in the playoffs, not to provide average innings in the regular season. It didn’t work that way in season 1. Let’s hope it does in seasons 2 through 5.
I agree, Glasnow has a much higher level of stuff. But just saying, the kid is pretty good, and with a really good team he might even be better. Sanchez impressed me when I saw him play last year against LA at the end of the season. He had a really nice 4-4 game and made some plays in the outfield.
Rushing needs at bats just like pages did to get where he is now. Sitting does him no good. He can be that bad of a LF
Rushing is going to play twice a week at most. Doubtful he gets any reps in left unless something changes drastically.
Did a little digging on Conforto
Between April 25 and May 9 he had 1 single and 6 walks in 48 PA. That’s it. A .167 OBP. A .000 ISO. A negative 31 wRC+. That’s as bad as it gets.
Here. See it in all of its horrific glory
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/michael-conforto/16376/game-log?position=OF&gds=2025-04-25&gde=2025-05-09&season=&type=2
Prior to that stretch he had a 103 wRC+
Since then, he’s at 98
Now, you can’t just say that those plate appearances didn’t happen, they did, of course. But that quarter of his season is really dragging down his overall numbers – which have still been a disappointing league average.
His xwOBA is 341. This IS buoyed by a huge increase in BB rate.
His statcast numbers are mostly average-ish. And not that much of a decline, but a decline, from last year.
The biggest differences are in barrel % (still above average) and LA sweet spot % (way below average). I don’t know exactly what those two things measure but seems like he’s just not hitting the ball quite right. “Duh”, right? Like something is off in the timing or swing and he’s just missing. Or really missing. I don’t know.
It’s a weird season for the guy. Ideally, his numbers for the rest of the season will better match what was expected before the season and what his xwOBA is.
I’m rooting for him
Although I don’t like Conforto, I’m not eager to see him get rid of either. Who would take his place? Many say Ward, a rookie who has never played in the major leagues, and who could be worse… What would be the reason for doing that? At least Conforto has experience, and could still inspire some respect.
And please, I’m already sick of reading about SD, until when are you going to understand that those assholes don’t matter?
The only teams that maybe, and just maybe, could “worry” or create some interest would be SF or NYY… The real rivalries!
These faggots aren’t rivals. Why do they give them an importance they don’t have and never have? LA is far above them, so why do they stoop to their miserable level?
Someday, Jorge, maybe you’ll explain to us your total hatred for the Padres. Most of us Dodger fans really dislike them, but your reaction to them seems a bit over the top. And constantly referring to them as “faggots” doesn’t work for me at all.
And If I’m allowed to disagree with you, I think the LA/SD “rivalry” is one of the best in baseball. Just about every game is hard fought, exciting baseball. The games tend to be baseball at its best. And maybe we come out on top more often than they do, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a rivalry.
Just my opinion. You are certainly entitled to yours.
What does ‘rivalry’ mean? If they knock us out of the playoffs would that be it? Anyway they probably look at it differently, because as of today they would miss the playoffs based on their record
That Jorge’s thing. Let him hate on the Padres.
I was going to comment “100”, but it’s more like 75.
I agree with everything you commented except disliking the Padres. Disliking other teams is weird. They’ve put together a very good team with some fun and interesting players. They’ve had to make some difficult decisions due to their financial situation. And they’ve been able to stay very competitive.
They aren’t the same historic rivals that the Giants are. But they’ve been a bigger threat recently.
I don’t think disliking other teams is any more weird than liking the Dodgers.
I dislike the Padres but respect them. I dislike them because they are more likely than most to get in the way of our winning the next WS.
Many here really dislike Machado and Tatis for the way they carry themselves on the field. That “in your face” attitude is another reason why I think the Padres are our biggest rivals right now. I happen to think it brings more excitement to the games but I know I’m in the minority.
I agree that liking a team is kinda weird too.
As I get older and wiser, both my likes and dislikes have wained. I still like the Dodgers, but there’s no team I dislike. I’m more a fan of the sport now
And I think it makes me a “better” fan. At the least, I have a more comprehensive view of baseball. I don’t need to refer to teams using homophobic slurs (of course, I never did that. WTF? Pretty (I’ll use a different f-word here) fucking pathetic that that’s apparently an ongoing thing that’s allowed here).
Now, beyond me fandom of the Dodgers, I find other teams interesting and pay attention to how their seasons are going.
Having lived in multiple MLB cities is part of that. I lived in DC when the Nats were terrible and went to a lot of games. It was cool to see them turn it around and win a WS, even if it came at LA’s pretty direct expense.
There are a lot of things to hate and dislike in the world. Homophobic slurs, for one. No reason to waste that emotion on a baseball team.
Eduardo Quintero Is the Dodgers’ Best player on the farm.
This is what ChatGPT thinks:
Dodgers’ Top 10 Prospects (by Talent)
1. Roki Sasaki (RHP)
o #1 overall prospect in MLB Pipeline’s 2025 preseason ranking
o Electric arm, elite strikeout potential coming from Japan’s NPB.
2. Dalton Rushing (C/OF)
o Dodgers’ No. 2 prospect and MLB #16 overall per Keith Law.
o Hit .308/.398/.485 in Triple-A (31 games) and earned his first MLB call-up.
3. Josué De Paula (OF)
o Dodgers’ No. 3 prospect and MLB #40.
o ESPN’s Kiley McDaniel likened him to Yordan Alvarez
4. Jackson Ferris (LHP)
o Dodgers’ No. 4 prospect and MLB #70
o High-upside southpaw with frontline starter potential.
5. Alex Freeland (SS)
o Dodgers’ No. 5 prospect and MLB #71
o Excellent contact skills; top of the plate discipline and hit tool.
6. Zyhir Hope (OF)
o Dodgers’ No. 6 prospect and MLB #73
o Toolsy outfielder with a strong blend of speed and power.
7. Emil Morales (SS)
o Ranked 6th by Pipeline, among Dodgers’ 16 top-10 prospects across evaluators
o Fast-rising shortstop profile with long-term upside.
8. Eduardo Quintero (OF)
o High-A breakout bat; consistently listed in Dodgers’ top 10 by MLB Pipeline
9. Kendall George (OF)
o Dodgers’ 2023 first-rounder now in High-A with impressive tools
o Known for advanced development and athleticism.
10. River Ryan (RHP)
o Elite arm was placed on the injured list, but still rated top-10 in multiple rankings
I like Quintero, but I would not put him #1
I would put Sirota ahead of George. George can run like the wind but will he be able to hit on his way up the ladder. Hopefully yes but time will tell
Yeah, the Dodgers have a bunch of OFs in the pipeline, not including Sirota.
Thing is, De Paula is only 20, and most of these guys are just unrefined prospects still a ways off – if they ever pan out.
Duran and Stowers or Mullins don’t exite anyone.
Maybe the Dodgers just say “F**k it!” and sign Tucker for a billion dollars and settle things.
$425 million should get it done.
Kim’s BABIP is .462
You don’t think that’s sustainable?
😉
Babe Ruth’s was .340. The MLB average is .289.
To me it doesn’t matter if it IS sustainable because we benefitted when he did it. Its hard for ANYTHING to be sustainable for the long season. (See Aaron Judge, Freddie Freeman)
“doesn’t matter if it IS sustainable because we benefitted when he did it. ”
This is a weird comment
You’re exactly right that the team has benefitted from Kim’s performance thus far. That can’t be changed
What can change, of course, is his future performance. If he can’t maintain that BABIP (he can’t maintain that BABIP), he’s not going to provide the same level of offense. So, it certainly matters.
06/18/25 Los Angeles Dodgers activated RHP Emmet Sheehan from the 60-day injured list.
06/18/25 Los Angeles Dodgers optioned RHP Matt Sauer to Oklahoma City Comets.
His fourth time being optioned, so he can only be optioned one more time this year.
Welcome Back Emmet!!!
Bobby Miller’s line in Oklahoma City’s 15-1 win this afternoon with the magic number reduced to 2 to win the first half division:
5IP 5H 1R 0ER 2BB 7K 5.17ERA 101 pitches 61 strikes ( progress}
I have a close friend in the game who believes that Miller’s issues are all mechanical.
Some think he is a head case, but that is what we see – his frustration. That’s not the cause.
Dodger owner Mark Walter is buying the Buss family’s 2/3 majority ownership of the Lakers for 10 billion.
Sounds like a monopoly! 😉
I put in a bid, but at last minute he outbid me. Damn!!!
Remind them that if they accept your bid it will result in less of a tax burden. They might still reconsider.
I think maybe the terms did me in. I said could only do about $150 per month with no down payment
If one could discount pitching, I’m not convinced that the position players at Great Lakes aren’t better, right now, than the players at Tulsa. I’m impatient, I realize the Dodgers and their system doesn’t do this but I wish they would move their upper players up quicker and cut bait with players that aren’t getting done. Quintero needs to be challenged but the Great Lakes outfield is five deep with potential MLB players. Though I complain too much, I have complete confidence in our front office. It’s fun being a fan and having a site to vent. Mark I really appreciate you and your work on this site. If we ever meet, dinner is on me.
Mark Prior was on the Starkville podcast. It’s not the best, but they touch on injuries for pitchers and Otani.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-windup-a-show-about-baseball/id1558220009?i=1000713402372
It’s probably a better use of your time than contemplating the human condition and its impact on the ability of markets to set value, but who am I to judge?
The markets ain’t always right…
But they finally get it right!
The latter seems infinitely more useful in the broader world than the former.
Well Bluto, making such a value judgement about the allocation of human temporal capital in pursuit of baseball insight shows your inherent bias and lack of objectivity in such matters.
You no doubt don’t even realize that your assertions are mere social constructs, unlike me, on the other hand, who thinks very deeply about such things, and has a much deeper understanding of the human condition and its intersection with baseball and politics.
I’m very clever, in case you hadn’t noticed.
Well, dp
I made a comment that wasn’t correct.. Someone pointed out that it wasn’t correct and I insulted them.
I’m very secure, in case you hadn’t noticed
You are so secure that when he makes a comment to Pluto you feel the need to reply. Interesting psychology there.
Do you understand how a public comments section works?
And you are here replying to comments that aren’t addressing you. So…
Ward is most likely a AAAA player. Can we say with any confidence that Conforto is better than that? I don’t think Conforto would anything at AAA either.
10:10 PM ET
Padres (39-33)
Dodgers (45-29)
SP Stephen Kolek R
3-2 3.50 ERA
SP Emmet Sheehan
0-0 0.00 ERA
Confirmed Lineup
DH S. Ohtani L
SS Mookie Betts R
1B F. Freeman L
RF T. Hernandez R
3B Max Muncy L
LF Andy Pages R
2B Tommy Edman S
CF Hyeseong Kim L
C D. Rushing L
80° Wind 8 mph Out
Wrobleski expected to relieve tonight
Here’s from MLB Trade Rumors about Keibert Ruiz:
“Things have subsequently deteriorated, with Ruiz hitting .241/.286/.374 since. He showed more power in 2023-24, but in 2025 Ruiz has just two homers, a .252/.286/.322 batting line (71 wRC+) and dramatically worse defensive grades. Dating back to Opening Day 2023, Ruiz has -18 Defensive Runs Saved and a -36 Fielding Run Value from Statcast. He led the league in stolen bases allowed in 2023 and is doing so again in 2025 — although he also leads the NL in total runners thrown out this year (in part because teams seem so willing to run on him).”
I’m glad he’s not a Dodger now.
I really need to quit work and life for that matter. I’m always late here unless a new LADT post shows up before work, which is usually 5-6 am PST.
Enjoying the baseball being played here the last few series with LAD against NL West foes. Yeah, I’d say Pages deserves a nod for the Mid-Summer Classic. Enjoying all of baseball, really; interesting game between NYM/ATL yesterday…Mets let one get away. Big Dumper Cal Raleigh still mashing (what a nickname, LMFAO). And the Angels…quite the scrappy bunch despite the Moreno shyt show…
Which leads me to wondering and I’d be impressed even amongst the knowledgeable folks here at LADT if anyone knew this: has a team below .500 ever had road sweeps of the previous season’s World Series participants…which LAA could do if it wins tonight. I’d call Elias but this random and obscure fact would probably bring Steve Hirdt to the phone himself just so he could tell me to “fuck off”…
Shoutouts to the Stanley Cup Champs Florida Panthers; those CATS are relentless; and OpenAI ChatGpt….gettin’ a lotta run here at LADT lately….
EDIT: just learned it’s a four game set which concludes tomorrow at Yankee Stadium….oh well…NYY fightin’ it right now, but I’d think the Yanks should be able to get one…
The pitching, obviously, has been about as good as one could have asked thus far. 7 innings, 0 walks, 8 K’s. 3 hits and a run.
Nearly flawless piggybacking to this point (jinxes don’t exist, just regression).
For a flawless (IMO) piggybacking game, though, Sheehan would have started the 5th. He’d faced 15 hitters to that point. He could have gotten through 5 while not facing any hitter twice. Then Wrobo finishes off the last 4 innings.
Or, Sheehan gives up a base runner or two. Then you go to the arm barn to 1) eliminate the threat 2) let Wrobo start an inning. Then, again, you let Wrobo finish the game.
I understand why they played it like this. Watching out for Sheehan’s arm. Not wanting to warm a reliever if they don’t need them. Wanting Sheehan to come off the field with confidence. Etc
But perfectly piggybacked games are a thing of (subjective) aesthetic beauty.
Though
4 innings by Sheehan
4 innings by Wrobleski
And 1 by Yates isn’t exactly ugly
Really surprised they let Wrobleski pitch the ninth
But all’s well that ends well.
Made sense. Wrobleski is fully stretched out and the pen needed a day off. If it had gone into extra innings, I believe he would have continued to pitch. Smith’s homer makes that moot. As good of an outcome the Dodgers would hoped.
“he could have gotten through 5 while not facing any hitter twice.”
As a famous philosopher once said five out of four people struggle with math.
My abacus tells me that no matter how well you pitch by the fourth inning you are facing hitters twice.
Yes
I meant three times
“no matter how well you pitch by the fourth inning you are facing hitters twice.”
You abacus might be working well, but you didn’t reason this out.
It is possible to pitch 4 innings without ever facing the same hitter.
I can think of two ways immediately. There may be more.
1) Pinch hitters. Pitcher faces 9 hitters through 3 innings. In the next inning they face 3 pinch hitters
2) Pitcher enters with the bases loaded and retires each of the base runners without facing a batter. There are various ways to do this.
That means a pitcher could pitch 5 innings without facing the same hitter twice. They can enter with the bases loaded and retire the base runners. Then 9 up and 9 down. And then 3 pinch hitters.
Now the question is how many innings can a pitcher pitch (in one game of course) without facing the same hitter twice.
We have 5 innings. The hitting team has two batters left on the bench. They could pinch hit them. That’s 5 and 2/3.
Then there are the pitchers who can also pinch hit. There are 12 pitchers who can hit. That’s another 4 innings. That gets us to more than a full game – 9 2/3 innings. I guess the opposing pitcher can also replace the DH, so that’s a full 10 innings.
Then. What about a suspended game that is resumed at a later date?
I don’t know the rule for this. Or how to word it. If a team, say, has used all of its bench players then the game gets suspended then the team acquires new bench players who have not been in the previous game, can they use them? I’d guess so. But I’m not sure.
OR!
The game is suspended. The pitcher who has pitched 10 innings and not yet faced the same hitter twice gets traded to the opposing team before the completion of the game.
They enter the suspended game with the bases loaded and nobody out. They proceed to retire every base runner without throwing a pitch. They have now pitched 11 innings without facing the same hitter.
Then the pattern repeats.
So 20 innings
Then the pattern repeats
It seems like a pitcher, theoretically, could pitch an infinite number of innings without ever facing the same hitter twice.
WTF is going on here?
It is written as clearly as I can.
It started out as ways a pitcher can pitch 4 innings without facing the same batter twice.
Then to see how many innings a pitcher could pitch without facing a hitter twice. It seems like it’s infinite
This is one of the most ridiculous posts ever seen on this site. Ok. Only 99.999999% of the time a pitcher will face a batter twice by the time inning 4 starts
This is a baseball blog not a puzzle solving site
So you are saying there is a chance.
Some brains are comfortable with abstract thinking. Others prefer the concrete.
It’s not abstract nor thinking, it’s wasting time with silliness.
I do appreciate the Dumb and Dumber reference.
TL;DR:
More movie references, fewer valueless posts.
Value is subjective, of course.
Sorry you can’t keep up with anything that’s not dumb and dumber.
OK. I see your MO.
I tried, and will try harder to turn the other cheek and ignore the stupidity here.
Keep up the bad work. I’m sure someone will appreciate it.
Most entertaining and enjoyable game of the season. Really good to beat them again. Be great to get a sweep.
Nice win!!!
Great at bat by Rushing when he hung in there and walked. He wears a shin guard on his right foot. Fouled off two pitches on that foot and both missed the protector. Ouch!
Ohtani is scheduled to make his next start as a pitcher Sunday against the Nationals in Los Angeles.
“Ohtani will begin his time as a two-way player with the Dodgers with a two-start pitching week, but just like when he made his mound debut in Monday’s win over the Padres, the right-hander is expected to serve as an opener this Sunday. After tossing one inning and 28 pitches Monday, Ohtani could push up to the 2-to-3-inning range and toss around 40 pitches against the Nationals, though the Dodgers haven’t provided official word on what his workload might look like. According to Matthew Moreno of DodgerBlue.com, manager Dave Roberts did note that Ben Casparius would “most likely” pitch behind Ohtani again, after Casparius previously earned the win Monday while covering 3.2 innings out of the bullpen. The Dodgers’ goal is for Ohtani to gradually get stretched out enough to handle a typical starter’s workload without needing to be followed by a bulk reliever, though it will probably take him at least a couple more outings for him to get there”.
After 40 home dates,the Dodgers attendance is 2,026,238 with an average of 50,653 per game. They are in excellent shape to surpass the four million mark.
Late to the party on this comment. Hate is to strong of a word but I will dislike the Houston Astros for eternity. It’s my issue that I need to deal with.
emmit was fantastic last night! JW was just as impressive! if both can somehow stay healthy, they can provide a 1-2 punch that can give that overworked bullpen a break! Kudos to Doc for having faith in JW! If only Dustin May was pitching like those 2 did last night! ….. now i don’t want to criticize Doc, but i didn’t like him removing Kim for kike last night. i believe the kid has earned the right to stay in against lefties. especially since kike is like 1 for his last 25.(i could be wrong). let him play! …. Agree. a sweep would be so sweet! and padre fans don’t even come at us with the “ look how many injuries “. excuse . ….. Machado will be a first ballot hall of fame player. he is also a great candidate for the all butthole hall of fame! Tatis? always will have that “ped” shadow over him. couldn’t happen to a nicer guy! … Hopefully yamamoto gets back on track tonight. lets slow down on the cy young talk for a while. he’s had a couple of stinkers lately. …. Keep hearing good reports on Snell and Glasnow! look out every other team in baseball! the dodger train is gaining steam!
I agree about pinch hitting for Kim. However, the bench guys need to get AB’s. I think the Dodgers sometimes pigeon hole players as platoon hitters prematurely.
once altuve is gone, my hate for the astros will fade away slowly. Bregman, springer, correa, hinch, cora? may they all have no success for the rest of their careers! Amen brother john!
Eduardo Quintero didn’t get a hit last night…because he didn’t play.
The Best !!!
Hate is tantamount to drinking poison and thinking the person you hate is going to die.
The opposite of love is not hate… It’s indifference.
If you hate something, it controls you. It owns you.
If you hate something, get over it; otherwise, it will consume you…in more ways than one.
OMG
i guess hate might not be the best choice for the aaaaasssssstros! hate should be reserved for someone who has done something to hurt a loved one or someone who stole your life savings. Maybe there’s a different type of “hate” when it comes to sports. hate the yankees? hate the cowboys? hate the padres? giants? yeah Mark, hate is consuming. as humans i don’t hate bregman,correa, etc. but as cheaters, i don’t like them in the slightest way. Didn’t like Bonds, but recognize his greatness. at one time i thoroughly enjoyed watching clemens pitch. Mcgwire? yeah, saw him hit 3 homers in his record season against the dodgers in st. louis. Sosa? a complete fraud. Arod. despicable human being. But they’re all wealthy and could give a rats -ss about me or my opinion. Bottom line, cheaters seem to prosper in our beautiful game. But we don’t have to like it!
E. Gagné was a mediocre starting pitcher with a great arm, then developed into a elite reliever.
It’s time to try B. Miller and J. Wroblesky as relievers, both touch 100 MPH.
Check out JW’s stats as a reliever this year, they’re very good !!!
Gagne was notoriously using PED’s (as were, probably, the majority of players at that time).
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/8426140/eric-gagne-biography-says-80-percent-los-angeles-dodgers-teammates-were-hgh
There have also been thousands of mediocre starting pitchers with great arms who didn’t become great relievers.
Wrobo as a starter: 181 BF, 9.4 BB%, 16 K%, 6.74 FIP, 5.11 xFIP
Wrobo as reliever: 74 BF, 6.8 BB%, 24.3 K%, 2.84 FIP, 3.01 xFIP
A stark difference, but
1) his relief outings, are not typical relief outings. His most recent relief outing, for example. In 5 career relief outings, he’s faced 74 hitters. 15 hitters per game
In his 8 starts, he’s faced 181 hitters. 23 hitters per start.
Part of it might be fatigue. Or times through the order.
Part of it is almost surely sample size.
He’s not one of LA’s top starters. So, bulk relief is his best option for right now.
But I imagine that as the samples get bigger, the difference between them will get smaller.
23
15
yeah the bench guys need ab’s, but kike could average 5 at bats per game and still hit .210. NOW the playoffs? yes he needs to play!.. with the speed kim has and tommy ain’t no snail, if ohtani would be a little more patient at the plate, 8,9,and 1 in the lineup would be a nightmare for opposing catchers!!