The Big Dodger in the Sky is Pissed!

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1. I agree Mark, my friend. Not sure I’ve seen a worse loss. My heart, my mind, my love for baseball has been broken. Blake Treinan is a really great man and his heart is bleeding. But, once again he gave up walks. I always think that a lesson has to be learned? But, we are a very veteran team that has got to already know the lesson ?.. I’m sooooo piseed tonight.

   1. I agree Mark, my friend. Not sure I’ve seen a worse loss. My heart, my mind, my love for baseball has been broken. Blake Treinan is a really great man and his heart is bleeding. But, once again he gave up walks. I always think that a lesson has to be learned? But, we are a very veteran team that has got to already know the lesson ?.. I’m sooooo pissed tonight.

      1. how do we know Treinen is a good man?

         i presume they all are, but would love affirmation

2. Worst loss I can remember watching. the front office has made several miscalculations:

   1 – Michael Conforto would work out.
   2 – It’s OK to have 2 bad defensive OF starting.
   3 – Scott and Yates would repeat last year’s performance.
   4 – They could rely on oft-injured starters like Glasnow and Snell to pitch most of the season.

   And for a veteran bunch that should know better, they seem to have assumed that the talent level alone would be enough to win.

3. Tonight was one of the rare nights. I had to go to my happy place.

   The happy place was the taste of gun oil in my mouth.

   Roberts has ONE job. And it doesn’t have a damn thing to do with talent. Or injuries.

   One job! It ain’t easy. But he needs to keep this ship in the air. And that don’t involve advanced stats. Or fucking around with the lineup. I’m sure he knows.

   https://youtu.be/tGiCkd1kBHU?si=kfE25K1sU6kbQU4Z

   1. I put this loss squarely on Doc. Pulling Yamamoto with one batter left to face after pitching a no-hitter, was spineless, brainless, and an affront to the confidence that a manager should show his best pitcher. Unforgivable. Then, to keep Treinen pitching when he was unable to throw a strike, was also unforgiveable. Why couldn’t he have pulled him sooner? Why did he wait so long? Because he’s a guy that can’t think out of his box.

      1. there is a rule.

         This loss is all on Treinen, but he will be fine

         i wonder (a little) why Scott and not Henriquez, but Scott’s pitch was pretty good.

         1. Worst Dodger loss since the final WS game against the Asstros. Pulling Yamamoto under those circumstances demonstrated an alarmingly low baseball IQ for someone who should know (and is handsomely paid) to know better. Bile-raising.

4. That last pitch by Tanner was a good pitch. 99 times out of 100 it’s a swing and miss or it gets pounded into the ground to the shortstop or 2nd baseman.

   1. ???
      99 out of 100? So the expected BA on that pitch is .010?
      Sadly, Tanner Scott has been pretty bad for most of the season. He’s blown 9 or 10 saves now. Even if you think this was a good pitch, he’s made plenty of bad ones. Just unlucky? Don’t think so.
      Not unlike Conforto, the Dodgers keep rolling him out there because they are paying so much for the privilege of using him. Kudos to their agents for getting them so much $$$.
      My guess is that Roberts would have used Vesia if Vesia had been available. Surely Scott has fallen a few branches on that “trust tree” he talks about. And Treinen has fallen a couple too.
      Before this latest outing, I had speculated that Scott might not make the postseason roster. Vesia, Dreyer and Banda are lefties too. As is Wrobleski. Scott is supposed to be waaay better than all of them–but now it’s September.
      With Scott and Yates aboard, the bullpen was supposed to be a strength of this team. But they’ve turned into a weakness. And at midseason, with Mason Miller and several other proven closers on the market, AF played small ball, dealing Outman for Brock Stewart, who of course is now injured. (Maybe Bobby Miller should be summoned for a look-see.)
      Because this was the most depressing and maddening loss of the year, I’ll just note another tiny silver lining: Mookie continues his strong play.

5. I haven’t seen a team implode like this since the The Phillies did in the mid 60s collapse at the end of the season. My father never recovered and lost interest in his beloved Phillies

   I know it is hindsight but Yamamoto could have gotten the CG and we all could have gone home happy.

   Suck it up guys, I doubt anyone feels worse than everyone in that team.

6. World Champs to World Chumps in one year !!! Sad!!!

7. Just like I said yesterday, I’ll say it today: this team is going to turn the switch.

   I think they can’t fall any further. They’ve already fallen to the lowest point, to the most shameful point. This team is full of veterans. I’m sure things are going to change. They can’t be worse.

   It’s hard to accept or watch, but the catcher they have currently playing, whose name I can’t remember because he’s a little weird, made a couple of key plays: a couple of bunts resulted in a couple of runs scored, and then he got a base hit and scored the third run.

   Then Pages faced the same situation with two men on base and no outs, and what did he do next?
   One of the three strikeouts he had in the game!

   Even me, who am the first to say that the game was over in just the first inning because of the terrible and horrible way they have been playing, even I feel that this is going to change very soon!

   But the truth is that with that bullpen it is difficult, if not impossible, to have hope, but in history there have been other bullpens that are equally or more horrible and they have done a good job in the playoffs.

   We’ll see… Stay Tuned!

   1. There are few reasons for optimism:
      Max, Will and Edman will all be back.
      But I will harp again on the missed opportunities at the trade deadline, when AF decided to play small-ball to bring in Alex Call and Brock Stewart. Not exactly impact players. Other contenders made some big moves.
      Several closer-quality relievers were dealt at the deadline. The Dodgers didn’t land any of them. And wouldn’t we rather have Laureano or Bader than Call?
      It’s reported that AF tried to land Steven Kwan but decided the price was too steep. Maybe it was. Who knows? But Kwan’s a gold glover and one of the best contact hitters in the game.
      Just imagine a lineup that features Kwan instead of Conforto or Call.
      Yes, Kwan would have moved the needle on both offense and defense.

      1. irrelevant

8. But this loss wasn’t only in the horrible bullpen. How many guys were left on base or in scoring position? Yeah, they should have won with 3 runs. But they could easily have scored more.

9. But I still think your DEI premise is ridiculous. And you proved it yourself. Look at the names you mentioned. Not one Black player. Only 1 hispanic. Just as easily one could say that NOT enough DEI players were signed. Not saying I believe that. But you can’t just look at one thing you don’t like and say that is the reason.
   You often post how you chased the Morons away, so we can have logical discussions………
   Glad no one else here is carrying on with that theme

   1. Come on, David. Don’t you know that Mark authored the Book of Moron?
      And he happens to be right about this:
      The Dodgers have always been about DEI!!!
      They put up statues to honor a Jew and a black dude! Why should anyone think this is a meritocracy? If Jackie Robinson was white, would he have gotten a statue? I don’t think so!
      And why did Fernando get special treatment, huh? Why didn’t Drysdale inspire BigDMania??? (Come to think, “Orelmania” would have been kind of funny.)
      And what’s with all the Asians? Used to be that one was plenty.
      And what did the Dodgers do when ICE tried to use their parking lot as a staging area? That’s right: The Dodgers told the masked men to leave!
      Lordy, they even did a bobblehead for Billie Jean King, famous Lesbian!
      Diversity, Equity and Inclusion is such a dastardly, dangerous thing…
      It’s amazing that the Dodgers are still leading the West…

      1. So are you talking about DEI or Dodger success? We have had 12 great years. So clearly DEi , whether you like it or not, Is not the cause of this year’s problem. They signed a lot of white players who failed a d aged

   2. Go back and read what I wrote.

      There was nothing about having more black players. If DEI is at work, it is at work somewhere else, and why are you so adamant as to immediately dismiss the idea. I have found in my 72 years on this earth that when people do that, it is because they don’t want to face an uncomfortable truth.

      Now, there is another issue at work here: The Dodgers are using their DEI initiatives to build baseball fields all over LA… and that’s good, but it doesn’t address the problem: Black Kids want to play in the NBA or NFL – they don’t even consider MLB for the most part.

      In 1974, 27% of MLB was Black. Now it is 6%. All the great Black Athletes are going to the NBA or NFL. That’s what needs fixing.

      Here’s the crux of the problem: https://youtube.com/shorts/fiNDIl_6_IU?si=F1-xGdaMK3–G8Cl

      1. Again.They had the same DEI attitude last year when we won it all. So why is it a thing now?

      2. stupid premise.
         stupid basketball player
         stupid extension to baseball fields

         1. Nuance much?

            1. Wait.

               Person A writes a nuance free, over-the-top baseless thesis about DEI

               Person B calls it out

               Person A says person B lacks nuance?

      3. There is a lot wrong in this DEI critique on so many levels.
         For starters, everybody has their own idea of what DEI means. We start from a point of confusion.
         Let me ask this: If you oppose DEI–and many clearly do–does that mean you prefer UIE?
         Meaning Uniformity, Inequity and Exclusion.
         Certainly the MLB had all of that in the decades before Jackie Robinson came along….
         The big problem comes when folks start edging up toward bigotry with the phrase “DEI hire.” The term implies that a person was hired primarily BECAUSE of their race, gender, etc. Mark, you suggested that three of the Dodgers’ media team members were DEI hires, right?
         If they were DEI hires, what about Dave Roberts ?
         Or was he hired on the basis of merit?
         Some decades back, the Dodgers’ Al Campanis was defending on national TV the fact that blacks were being EXCLUDED from managerial positions. Ted Koppel gave him a chance to dig himself out of that hole–and he just dug it deeper, suggesting that blacks lacked the “qualifications.”
         I used to work at a big company that rightfully placed such a premium on diversity during non-diverse times that it created a special recruitment and training program to address the issue. I remember some white guys complaining that this was all so unfair. But was it fair to the blacks and Latinos who were presumed to be unworthy because of their melanin? Is racial profiling kosher?
         I remember a conversation about diversity with a new and very accomplished colleague named Serrano. I casually mentioned that, when management was making a diversity assessment, his father’s Mexican heritage would be counted as a plus. He was greatly offended, insisting that he was hired purely on merit. I never suggested otherwise–but I could understand his reaction.
         By the way, I question the claim that only 6% of MLB players are black. My assumption is that 6% is African American, and that this dubious stat ignores the African ancestry of the many Latin ballplayers, such as Teoscar Hernandez and many others. Would Teo deny his African roots? I don’t think so. Hell, we could probably put together a powerhouse 26-man roster of African Latino ballplayers…. a team of Uniformity and Exclusion.
         Not sure about Inequity.
         Yes, many African American athletes are focusing more on basketball and football. But the guys from the DR, Cuba and Curacao are still playing baseball and taking big hacks.
         As Vinnie once put it, “You can’t walk off the island.”

10. This team has no balance. Great starting pitching, great power and it goes downhill after that. No speed on the base path, nobody hitting for average except Freddie and Miggy, horrible defensive outfield, no catcher or 3B currently. Granted, injuries are a problem but counting on homers and starting pitching and sacrificing everything else, only work in short periods. Eventually, that lack of balance bites you in the ass. Look back on the last few series with Arizona,Pittsburgh and O’s and how many hits we lost to their great defense and how many balls dropped in because of our poor defense. Hopefully, AF will restore the balance by next year.

11. In baseball, you have to build it the right way. Andrew Friedman knows that blueprint.

    I think the Dodgers’ ownership group pushed for more signings, and AF went down the wrong path. There needs to be a correction this off-season.

    On taking Yamamoto out of the game last night:

    Hindsight is 20/20… we don’t know what would have happened, but if Yamamoto had ended coughing up the game, Doc would be roasted on a spit!

    Second-guessers are never wrong!

12. All that said, this team has more than enough talent to win… if they can come together.

    Leave Conforto, Scott, Yates, and Treinen off the playoff roster. Go with the youngesters. They might surprise you.

    Playoff Roster:

    1. Ohtani DH
    2. Betts SS
    3. Freeman 1B
    4. Smith C
    5. Muncy 3B
    6. Hernandez, T LF
    7. Edman CF
    8. Pages RF
    9. Kim/Rojas 2B

    Bench; K. Hernandez, Call, Rushing (if healthy)

    Starters:
    1. Yamamoto
    2. Kershaw
    3. Snell
    4. Sheehan

    Relief:
    Banda
    Dreyer
    Veria
    Henriquez
    Wrobleski
    Casparius
    Hurt
    Kopech
    Room for 1 more

13. You also need to remember that when the Rangers won in 2023, Josh Sborz was a key piece with a 5.00+ ERA

    1. So with the one other spot would yo like Yates or Scott?

14. Tanner Scott ,9 (nine) blown saves so far this year, Closing for the Dodgers and closing for the Marlins are two entirely different situations. We will have to live with him for unfortunately 3 more years.

15. Only Dodger fans can complain about leadership and ownership spending too much money to make the team better. Where was all the complaining at the beginning of the season? And please enlighten us on the “right way” to build a championship. I’m sure AF would get a good laugh at that.

    1. Look at his blueprint. He has a track record… and it was not by outspending everyone.

       Andrew Friedman builds a championship-caliber team by combining analytical rigor with disciplined roster construction:

       Deep Farm System: He invests heavily in scouting and player development, ensuring a steady pipeline of affordable, high-upside talent.

       Smart Trades & Signings: Friedman targets undervalued players with strong underlying metrics, while avoiding reckless long-term commitments.

       Financial Flexibility: He balances blockbuster acquisitions (Betts, Ohtani, Freeman) with cost-controlled depth pieces.

       Depth & Versatility: Rather than relying solely on stars, he layers the roster with interchangeable role players, minimizing the impact of injuries.

       Adaptability: Friedman stays ahead of trends—whether it’s defensive shifts, pitching usage, or leveraging analytics—keeping the Dodgers competitive year after year.

       In short, Friedman blends elite talent acquisition, player development, and depth-oriented roster building with a long-term, sustainable vision—turning the Dodgers into perennial contenders.

       … or I could break it down into one sentence:

       Andrew Friedman builds championship teams by blending superstar acquisitions with a steady pipeline of homegrown talent, all underpinned by depth, adaptability, and financial discipline.

       Do you really think he is going to laugh at his own methods?

       1. And also no matter what your plan it may not work EVERY year. And in the end its the players who have to perform Its not AFs fault that Muncy as hurt twice this year, Or that Scott was a bust or that Conforto was not like JD Martinez or Heyward. Or Snell and Glasnow were injured too much.
          And I dismiss your idea because other than naming it you could not offer insight on why it may be true. And yes, proving a negative is difficult. Just like I said it may be low humidity that may be causing all these injuries. You can make up what ever you want, but you have to come up with something to back it up. If you give us something to talk about, other than just the name DEI, then we could consider your theory.
          So I’ll use your own argument. If you dismiss my reasoning , I have found in my 77 years , its because you don’t want to face the uncomfortable truth, that your premise is ridiculous

          1. And again, I am not defending DEI, so no need to post why that is good or bad,Just saying it is not a factor here.
             And we are still in first place.

             1. So, you dismiss the idea that some of the trainers could have been hired based upon DEI and not ability?

                Over the past two years, the Dodgers have lost at least 30% more days to the IL than any other team in MLB, but there’s no way it could be DEI… just everything else? That’s not even close to science!

                I have a friend whose son “aced” the air traffic controller exam, but was not hired. They did hire people who tested out at 76%… so we know it happens.

             2. of course we dismiss stupid ideas

          2. You don’t believe knowing that Glasnow or Snell would be injured based upon their history?
             I do think Mark may be onto something based upon so many injuries alone, and yes, some are because the Dodgers use the IL as spa and relaxation time.
             I think the elephant in the room as far as DEI might be Roberts, though I don’t knot how many of his very poor lineup/ substitution decisions are his. He has always had some of the most talented rosters in the game and so does always end up with good records. No experience, one of best teams in baseball upon his hire. Not sure.

16. My training was in Science. So you can’t just throw out some theory, like the earth is flat. And expect people to believe it until you show some proof. Even if the ‘proof’ is debatable, at least it is something to open up some meaningful discussion. Like showing the trainers on every other team are Harvard graduates and all white. Or some team fired all their DEI hires and this year they spend less time on IL. Give us something to talk about

    1. I don’t expect you to believe it… only consider it.

       I am not saying that I believe it… but I am considering it and am doing some digging.
       

    2. The Earth is flat is not a theory. It’s a fallacy!
       

       1. Ok . Do your digging and report your findings, then we can discuss it. Can you show where unqualified trainers were hired and that is causing injuries or long IL stays. Or other teams only have ‘qualified’ trainers or fired DEI trainer.s I thought we blamed that on Pyors philosophy. but anyway present your facts when you find some. I’ll see if I can find any info on whether playing in low humidity causes more injuries.
          Here is something I found on the all knowing internet:
          Low humidity can draw moisture from the upper most layers of our skin causing it to dry out. The results vary from mild roughness to flaking or even cracking of the skin. Irritated dry skin can become itchy, which in turn can lead to injury or bleeding through continuous destructive scratching.

17. I have seen ZERO objective truths proffered here, just many subjective opinions.
    IMO objective truth is that the Dodgers have sucked for awhile now and that SOMETHING needs to change or they will be home A LOT earlier than last year.

    1. I think your post is a factual post. And is not in dispute.
       But lets face it the ‘job’ of fans is to have opinions and wild ideas

       1. Then mission accomplished here.
          Good job fans
          Shitty job Doyers

18. 1:35 PM ET

    Dodgers (78-64)
    Orioles (66-76)

    SP Clayton Kershaw L
    9-2 3.28 ERA
    SP Tomoyuki Sugano R
    10-7 4.41 ERA

    Confirmed Lineup
    DH S. Ohtani L
    SS Mookie Betts R
    1B F. Freeman L
    LF M. Conforto L
    RF Alex Call R
    3B Miguel Rojas R
    2B Hyeseong Kim L
    CF E. Hernandez R
    C Ben Rortvedt L

    69° Wind 8 mph L-R

    You want to laugh or throwup ,Conforto is batting cleanup? Thank God I have a family function and won’t have to watch this.

    1. Why not both

       1. Odd to see Conforto batting clean up.
          Odder still that both Teo and Pages are sitting. I haven’t heard an explanation for that yet.
          Anyway, it’s great to see how Kershaw, Shohei and Mookie–all likely first-ballot HOFers–led the Dodgers in this bounceback game. With so much of the team malfunctioning, the superstars need to come through.
          To me, Kershaw has been the most impressive Dodgers this season, exceeding all expectations at this late stage of his career.
          Shohei is just living up to otherworldly expectations. Mookie is back to being Mookie again. Kershaw is a revelation.
          Without checking, I think this is the third or fourth time that Kershaw has followed a discouraging Dodgers loss with a strong performance. When the season started, I thought he might be the sixth man on a six-man rotation–a sentimental fan favorite–when he wasn’t nursing an injury. Instead he’s been reliable stopper. The elder statesman of the staff seems like a go-to guy. Looks like a post-season starter.
          Going forward, the Dodgers still have the bullpen to sort out for the postseason.
          Which starters should be moved to the pen? Sheehan and who else?
          I’m thinking Glasnow, piggybacking on Kershaw.

19. 09/06/25 Los Angeles Dodgers placed C Dalton Rushing on the 10-day injured list. Right shin contusion.
    09/06/25 Los Angeles Dodgers designated RHP Matt Sauer for assignment.
    09/06/25 Los Angeles Dodgers selected the contract of C Chuckie Robinson from Oklahoma City Comets.

20. i’m a firm believer Doc does lottery tickets for the lineup. after last night i am not going to lose sleep over this season. injuries, bad bullpen, .190 hitters, bad pitching changes, no upgrades at the deadline, all these things have contributed to one of the most frustrating seasons ever! But at least We get to watch Kershaw today! oh shit, i forgot , game is blacked out here in southwest virginia! 5hours from baltimore! you explain that to me! I’ve already paid once for the package, ain’t paying twice! And by the way, i predicted 3 runs for the dodgers last night! … i hate to even look at the lineup anymore! Now Dave has to play with the cards dealt him. But no way in hell shou conforto hit 4th! i don’t care if he gets 4 hits today, that’s bullsh*t! earn something! .. And no Doc should not have left Yamamoto in after the homer. 112 pitches? he did the right thing thing there, but bringing in trienan? WRONG!!! casparius, dryer, kopech, wrobleski even! it’s not over but the fat lady is humming!

21. After 14 hours of being aggravated at the Dodgers, I have turned back to believing! They can’t get any lower than last night in the regular season. Everything from now on is moving up!

22. check the score! doc at it again. he can’t seem to pick the right reliever!!!

23. Kershaw looks great! Bullpen still stinks.

    1. Roberts stinks. All this talent and barely getting by.

       1. Well, a lot of talent is hurt.
          Max Muncy, Will Smith and Tommy Edman should be back soon. That’s one-third of a typical lineup.
          I was following yesterday’s game without image or sound. When there was a pause in the action for an injury, I feared that the new catcher up from OKC got hurt, following Smith and Rushing.
          It turned out to be the Oriole batter who got injured.
          Now it looks like we’ll get to see what Chuckie Robinson can do.

          BTW, I am puzzled by Mark’s suggestion that the Dodgers might be plagued by DEI in the training staff. Is there any evidence or is this just pure speculation? Seems like grasping.
          I have my own suspicions about the Dodgers many injuries and IL stints, including the habit of “slow playing” before a final push into the playoffs.
          Why, I wonder, do some veterans need rehab assignments in OKC while others return to Dodger Stadium? Recently, Tanner Scott blew a save that day after Alex Vesia was striking out guys in the minors.
          Yes, sometimes guys conceal their pain and play anyway. Freddie, for example. Others may be encouraged to take extra time off.
          My point is that a lot of this IL data is fungible.

          1. Not to try and defend Scott this year. But that hit was on a pitch out of the strike zone. Treinen was the cause of the loss not Scott

             1. Both have been awful this year. Between them they have 11 blown saves. 9 with Scott and 2 with Treinen. They are a big part of the problem why the race with the Padres is so close.

          2. Well, when I asked ChatGPT a question, here is what happened. I asked this question:

             “Looking back at all their training staff credentials, why do you think the Dodgers have lost about 30% more days to the IL over the past two years than any other team in baseball?”

             ChatGPT said this:

             “That’s a sharp observation. On paper, the Dodgers’ health and performance staff are among the most credentialed in baseball. Yet, over the past two seasons they’ve indeed lost far more Injured List (IL) days than any other club.”

             Maybe you should focus on understanding instead of trying to demean me. It makes you look dumb!

             1. I’m not getting your interpretation of this reply. It confirms that LA HAS a ‘highly credentialed staff. It offers NO REASON why the last 2 years have worse results. I don’t think anyone tried to demean YOU. Just saying that your conclusion was not based on any evidence that you could produce, other than you don’t like DEI. And still after the back and forth you STILL have not offered any evidence, or even a hint of why it may be true. And I am sorry, disagreeing with you doesn’t make someone look dumb. Lets face it more than anyone your opinions change day to day
                It seems reasons, even ones that YOU have stated, makes more sense!!, like signing players with a history of injuries, Pryor focus on spin and velocity, and lets face it the team is old

             2. Living rent free in some people’s heads.

       2. I’m pretty sure Roberts doesn’t stink, but I’ve seen the case made that perhaps his voice isn’t being heard anymore. Falling on deafened ears, as it may be.

24. What a heart of a champion to come back and get the win yesterday!!!

    Stick with these guys, best is yet to come fellas. Enjoy the ride

    Also Go Rams!!! Screw Houston….

25. How about them Colts?

    I look for Richardson to be traded…

26. bills- ravens game was as good as it gets! 2 amazing quarterbacks! …. Speaking of great quarterbacks, how about ole Clayton Kershaw! BEST DODGER EVER!! …. Vesia back today. Now they need Max, Will, and Tommy back for the stretch run! …. Would be interesting to know if the dodgers reached out to Barnes. . Just curious. Hope he gets back with the organization. Really believe he’s going to be a big league manager someday…. Brewers keep getting better! Andrew Vaughn may have been one of the best players acquired before the deadline! if not the dodgers, i hope the Brewers take it all. Great job from bottom to the top!…. Who’s pitching tonight? haven’t seen a starter listed. . Good news on Glasnow. Don’t give up on him just yet! … Yamamoto is a stud! Still believe Doc did the right thing saturday. 112 pitches? yeah he was totally right! Need a sweep!

27. An infusion of talented players is about to begin at just the right time. The cavalry is riding toward the Ravine. Getting by with no name AAAA subs is not the way to gain momentum. No doubt about it the over priced relief pitching has been beyond awful. Yeah, yeah, injuries are a part of the game but could the time be right to start ripping and tearing through the rest of the regular season and the playoffs? Will Doc suddenly be hailed a genius? Or will the season turn out to be a colossal dud? Fate can be a friggin’ bastard or a welcoming friend. October will give us the answers. At least we ain’t Rockies fans.

28. Never been a better time to be a Dodgers fan…..

    And Rams fan!

    Will be in Nashville next weekend!!

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