There once were three brothers pitching in the Dodger system at the same time. Ramon Martinez, his brothers Pedro and Jesus. Pedro and Ramon threw from the right side. Jesus was a southpaw. Two of them made it to the Dodgers. One’s stay was brief. and he was traded. The other pitched well for LA for several seasons. Jesus got a brief call-up in 1996. But did not make it into a game.
Ramon Martinez
Ramon Jaime Martinez was born on March 28, 1968, in Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic. Like most families in the Dominican, his was not well-to-do. And he played baseball with the other kids in his area. He was signed by the Dodgers in September of 1984, and four years later, he would make his MLB debut against the Giants and get no decision in a Dodger 11-inning win. He was at the time the youngest player in the majors at 20 years old. He got his one and only World Series ring when the Dodgers bested the A’s in the Series. He was 1-3 that season.
In 1989, he was mostly a spot starter making 15 of those for his only appearances that year. He was 6-4 in those games. But he also pitched at AAA with Albuquerque making 18 starts there and posting a 10-2 record. In 1990 he was back in the majors to stay. He posted a 20-6 mark with a 3.19 ERA. He was second in the Cy Young voting and was an All-Star. On June 4th of that year, he struck out 18 Atlanta Braves to tie the team record previously set by Sandy Koufax, who did it twice. Martinez is still the only Dodger RHP to reach that number.
He would pitch for the Dodgers until 1998, reaching double digits in wins six times. He won 17 twice and 15 once but never won 20 again after that 1990 season. The highlight of his career, outside of the 18-strikeout game, was the no-hitter he threw on July 14th, 1995, at Dodger Stadium against the Marlins. He just missed a perfect game by walking a batter in the 8th inning.
He suffered a torn rotator cuff during the 1999 season that required surgery. The Dodgers did not renew his contract, and he signed with the Boston Red Sox to pitch with his brother Pedro. In 11 seasons in LA, he was 123-77. He pitched parts of 3 seasons for the Sox, going 12-9. He had his last double-digit win season in 2000, going 10-8 in Boston. The Red Sox released him and he signed with the Pirates, but was ineffective and was released. He then retired from baseball. Ramon now works as a senior Latin America advisor for the Baltimore Orioles. One side note, he always told the Dodgers that his brother Pedro was better than he was. The Dodgers disagreed, saying they felt he was too small to be effective in the majors.
That, to me, sounds a little moronic considering that they used him mainly in relief his first full season in the majors, and he had a 10-5 record with a pretty decent ERA of 2.61 in 65 games, and 107 innings pitched. But the Dodgers had a need, and he was sent packing for Delino DeShields.
Pedro Martinez
Pedro Jaime Martinez was born in the Dominican Republic on October 25th, 1971. He was the fifth of six children born to Paolino and Leopoldina Martinez. They lived in a tin-roofed hovel with dirt floors in the town of Manoguayabo. The town was about 9 miles from the capital of Santo Domingo. Paolino worked as a janitor and other odd jobs, and Leopoldina took in laundry. The family was poor, but they took education seriously.
They also took baseball seriously. Very seriously. Pedro and his older brother, Ramon, had pitching in their genes thanks to their dad. He played with major leaguers Matty and Felipe Alou in the 1950s. Both said he was good enough to make it in the majors. “I was too poor to leave,” he said. “The Giants offered a tryout, but I didn’t have any cleats, so I did not go.”
Nonetheless, the Martinez boys grew up playing baseball. They used tree branches and sticks to fashion into bats. For balls, they would reenact the French revolution using their sister’s doll heads for balls. The girl would come home, find her dolls headless and yell, “Mommy, Mommy!” In addition to having Paolino as his pitching role model, he looked up to his brother Ramon. Four years older, Ramon became the DeFacto head of the family when Paolino divorced Leopoldina when Ramon was 13. This showed a maturity and leadership that Pedro admires to this day. “Everything I know of baseball, of life on and off the field, I owe to Ramon, everything I am, I owe to Ramon.”
Ramon pitched for the Dominican team in the 1984 Olympics at age 17; on September 1st of that year, he was signed by Dodger scout Ralph Avila and assigned to the Dodgers baseball academy in the Dominican to start his pro career. In the tradition of little brothers everywhere, 13-year-old Pedro followed him when he went to the academy. Avila noticed him throwing a ball one day and decided to put the radar gun on him. His fastball was clocked at 80. Pretty good for a 13-year-old. Wisely, he told Pedro to keep pitching, and when he turned 16, Avila signed him to get him into the Dodger fold before he turned professional.
Pedro pitched locally with the Dodgers affiliate for the 1988-1989 seasons, going 12-3 over that time. Finally, in 1990 he began his climb up the Dodger system with a 8-3 record at Great Falls in the Pioneer League. That total led the team, as did his 40 walks in 77 innings. In 1991 he played at Bakersfield, 8-0 2.05, San Antonio, 7-5. 1.76, and Albuquerque, 3-3, 3.66. Overall he was 18-8, 2.28, and 192 K’s.
In 1992, at spring training, many teams were asking about Martinez. Only 5’9″, his fastball hit 90, and he had a wicked changeup, which seemed to be a family gift. Fred Claire made a statement that would come back to haunt him. Martinez was going nowhere. Where he was going was back to Albuquerque for more seasoning, which Claire believed he needed. He was 7-6 that year but got a September call-up where he made his first MLB start, a 3-1 loss to the Reds.
He started the season with the Dukes in 1993 but was called up when Todd Worrell went on the DL. In his first game that year, he came in on relief of Ramon, who was down 1-0 to the Braves in the 7th inning, He gave up two runs in an inning and a third, and the Braves won 3-0. Ramon and Pedro became the first brothers to pitch in the same game as teammates since Rick and Mickey Mahler did it for the 1979 Braves.
Pedro went on to have a very good rookie season, going 10-5 with a 2,61 ERA and 119 K’s in 109 innings. That winter, Claire got an offer he could not refuse. In November, he sent Martinez to the Expos for a speedy infielder Delino DeShields. For the Expos, it was simply a salary dump. DeShields was making $1,537,500 in 1993 and was eligible for arbitration. Martinez was making $114,000 and would not be eligible for arbitration for another two years. In hindsight, it was probably one of the worst trades in Dodger history. One of the reasons he was traded was because the Dodgers thought that at 5’9″ and 160 pounds, he was too small to go deep into games. Hence they used him mostly in relief in 1993. The Expos saw him strictly as a starter. That belief would pay off.
The 1994 Expos were the best team in baseball until the player’s strike derailed their run to the World Series. Martinez had a huge hand in that, going 11-5, 3,42. He also showed a penchant for throwing high and inside, and it earned him the nickname ” Senor Plunk.”
He led the league in hit batsmen and got into three fights, He was pitching a perfect game on April 13th when he hit Reggie Sanders in the elbow with a pitch with one out in the 8th inning. Sanders charged the mound, but most of his teammates did not believe he was hit intentionally.
In 1995, the Expos fire sale had them lose Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, Ken Hill, and John Wetteland, so they dropped to a 66-78 record. Martinez improved to 14-10, 3.51. The highlight of his season was a perfect game through 9 innings. But with the score at 0-0, the game went into extra’s. The Expos scored one in the top of the inning, but Bip Roberts, the Padres leadoff hitter, doubled. Mel Rojas came in and got the next three hitters to preserve the win.
The Expos bounced back to a 88-74 record, two games out of the wild card. Marinez dropped to 13-10, but the Expos did not give him much run support. Any questions of his abilities were answered in 1997. In the same season the DeShields left the Dodgers after three unspectacular seasons (.241 BA, and a .326 OBP from 94-96 ), Martinez went 17-8, 1.90 ERA and led the league in strikeouts with 305 and won the Cy Young award. He felt that Juan Marichal should have won at least one in his career, so he gave it to him at a banquet after the season. But Marichal returned it to him. What the season meant to the Expos was he was at his highest in trade value. So they sent him to the Red Sox for Carl Pavano and Tony Armas. After the trade, Martinez signed a six-year deal worth $75 million, making him the highest-paid pitcher in baseball at the time.
In his seven years with the Red Sox, he would win 117 games and lose 37. He would win Cy Young Awards in his second and third seasons with the team. He won 20 or more twice, in 99 and 2002. He was very good in ALDS games, winning four and losing none. He was 1-0 in their World Series win over the Cardinals in 2004. And he sparked a near riot in the playoff win over the Yankees by throwing coach Don Zimmer to the ground.
After his stellar seven seasons with the Red Sox, he signed with the Mets as a free agent. He won in double digits his first season there, but the Mets did not make the playoffs in any of his three seasons. He went 32-23, 3.88. Again a free agent, he signed with the Phillies in July of 2009. He would go 5-1 in what would be his last season. He lost two games to the Yankees in the World Series. After the season, he retired. His career mark is 219-100, 2.93. He was a first-ballot Hall of Famer, getting 91.1% of the vote. Retirement has been good for him, he is deeply religious, and the foundation he and his wife started has done much for Dominican children, including building a three-story school. He reconnected with the Red Sox in 2013 becoming a special assistant to the GM, Ben Cherington. He has also done some work in the post-season for ESPN. Not bad for a guy too small to be a starter.
Jesus Martinez
Unfortunately, there is not a whole lot about Jesus available. We do know he was called up but never got into a game. We definitely know who his brothers were and his parents. I searched for some minor league stats but could not find any. What I did find was this baseball card with his stats from 1991 in the Dominican. He was 6’2″, 145 pounds, taller but lighter than his brother Pedro.
So there you have it. What could have been had Claire not traded Pedro for DeShields? Dodger fans to this day gripe about that trade and the Piazza deal more than most any trades the team has made before or since.
Last Night by Mark Timmons
There were no minor league games, and the Major League Team did not play. Nuff said! A few days ago, I said that maybe Tony Gonsolin should spend a couple of weeks on the IL. I still say that. He may not have hit the proverbial “wall.” But, it would not hurt for that to happen. Does it have to happen? No clue! What I do know is that Tony sits at 99.2 IP after pitching 68 innings last season. In 2020 he pitched 88 innings, and in 2019 he pitched 168 innings. Tony is a big, strong guy who is not a kid – he is 28 years-old, but it has been three years since he pitched a lot of innings.
Maybe a rest would be helpful for a tired arm? On the other hand, the mental grind of a 162-game season is a real “thing.” Some short catcher said that “80% of this game is 50% mental,” or something close to that!
I hate to break it to you, but the Dodgers are going to lose more games. They do have an issue of “playing down” to their competition, but I am not going to panic. This team is deep. Players are coming back off the IL… many players over the next month to six weeks. CT3 starts minor league games later this week. The Dodgers have flaws… some of which MAY or MAY NOT exist by playoff time. I am enjoying the run and believe the Dodgers are still the best team in baseball.
Wanted:
Great write up on the Martinez brothers.
Ramon was my favorit Dodger player back then. For a long time I had the box score of his no hitter until I lost it during a move to another house.
Gonsolin had his second clunker in a row, three if you count the ASG. I agree he probably should be shut down for a little while to rest.
Plus yesterdays game was another argument for bringing in Castillo.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!
Gonsolin gave up a bloop hit, a seeing eye ground ball, a blooper that Trayce perhaps should’ve caught, and then a weird high chopper that bounced over Freeman’s head.
This after 4 scoreless innings. So ya, I don’ think that inning proved anything other than it was one of those unlucky innings.
5 straight hits yesterday. And in the ASG he gave up to absolute bombs.
Before that 5 runs on some hard hit balls.
I think the evidence is there that he might just be a little tired.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that just 7 whiffs is a bit telling. I’m not gonna say put a stick in him, but I don’t think he’s going to be as dominant as he was in the first half.
I mean there has to be some regression, doesn’t there?
I just wonder if when Heaney returns and just because the team deems it necessary, if Gonsolin goes on the IL for a stint. Just for a breather.
Kershaw and Gonsolin running on fumes in the second half. It was predictable. Castillo is the answer to a deep run in the playoffs, not Soto.
Nice writeup on the Martinez brothers. I have a signed ball when my son and I attended Spring Training in Vero Beach Florida by Ramon and Pedro. I also have the signed game ticket by Ramon on the night Ramon threw his no hitter.
Worst Dodger trade ever, Pedro for Delino Deshields Sr,
It was 4 scoreless and hitless innings. I’m more worried for Kershaw. He is the one who being hit hard rapidly transforms to arm, back or hip problems.
Yes, Martinez for Deshields was a bad trade looking back. But, when it happened, it wasn’t so bad. Pedro was pretty damn good reliever coming off his age 21 season. But, Delino looked two fill two holes, starting second baseman and leadoff hitter. No one could have predicted Pedro turning into a HOF’er and Delino getting hit by a the Mack Truck named Raul Mondesi in a collision in short right field.
Pedro was solid, but not great for his first three years in Montreal. He had an ERA in the mid to upper 3’s most of that time. I’m sure Eric would have traded him after his first season there because his splits against lefties weren’t very good. Then he flipped a switch, right in the middle of the steroid era and because a dominant force. Delino sucked the entire time with the Dodgers, then as soon as he joined the Cards, he was back to being what the Dodgers thought they were going to get, albeit for just 3 out of the next 4 seasons before his career faded into oblivion.
BulldogsandPenguins
Well it sounds like you have some sort of problem with me, so here you go.
From our discussion yesterday that you never finished with me. Haven’t you got the memo about ERA being a bad stat to be laser focused on? And by the way tell me what I am apparently laser focused on instead of just saying I’m laser focused on something. That’s what a coward would do. Is it OPS? because you claimed that before about me and I shot you down on that. I gave the whole career and 2022 slash lines of the 2 relievers we were talking about yesterday, 2 days ago for example. What am I suppose to do list every stat in the world? A slash line tells me everything I need to know. Apparently you look at a thousand stats, I don’t need to, and you never use those stats when you make a claim. All you ever use is maybe ERA. Isn’t that being laser focused on one thing? Besides being a crappy stat. And by the way you actually tried comparing Justin Bruihl to Chafin and I almost had a heart attack from that one, it was so ridiculous. Also you gave me a small sample when you said Chafin got lit up the other day, maybe you didn’t get the memo about small samples too, they’re stupid to use. Here’s a small sample back at you, last night Chafin allowed 1 hit and struck out 2.
I showed you stats that back up what I said about the 2 relievers being an upgrade and being better than anyone in our bullpen, besides Phillips stats this year only, Kimbrel’s career stats only, Treinen’s career stats, but Treinen is debatable. So give me something about Castillo like stats, as I did about my claim, that backs up why you think he is an upgrade over Gonsolin, Kershaw, Buehler, Urias, Anderson? And how much of an upgrade is it? And based on how much of an upgrade you say it is, why should the Dodgers pay the cost for him? This should be interesting.
Actually I really don’t care. I’ve always been nice to you. Fuck it.
Gotta admit, I was pleased with the trade when it happened.
But in the long view, I think the moral of the story is that the conventional wisdom is often wrong. Ramon was the tall prototype of the SP, and I remember chatter than Dodger brass thought Pedro was too slight to succeed as an SP, and would always be a swingman at best.
Ramon was a fine pitcher and had a good career, but little brother Pedro, several inches shorter, turned out to be one of the all-time greats. (It was sort of perfect that Pedro, at 5-11, would be inducted to the Hall beside 6-10 Randy Johnson.)
One of the great things about baseball is that smaller guys often outperform big ones. Mookie is an example. And now we have the Blue Jays fireplug Alejandro Kirk making the all-star team….
And now I’m wondering….
Why did the Dodgers sign Wilton Guerrero but not his brother Vlad???
Hey, Bear — I located Jesus Martinez’s minor league stats (link below) — not too impressive, which makes sense given that he never pitched in the bigs. On a sad note, looks like he died at the age of 44.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=martin006jes
Thanks. I knew he had passed away, but I forgot when. Some players there is just not a whole lot of info on. Especialy if they never made it to the majors
Passan (on state of the trade market) ($$$$)
https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/insider/story/_/id/34293330/what-jeff-passan-hearing-one-week-mlb-trade-deadline-offensive-edition
On Soto:
Yanks and Dodgers have the talent, money and motivation but Padres and Cards are considered the favorites
JD Martinez
Mentioned for the Mets
Bogaerts
Not likely to be traded
Wilson Contreras
Mets, Astros and Giants
Also mentioned Happ, Benintendi, Merrifield, Bell and drury also mentioned without suitors.
Good pitching beats good hitting.
Get Castillo.
Go Dodgers””””””””””””
100% agree!!!! We don’t need Soto.
ABSOLUTELY! ONLY Castillo ! No on Soto, Happ, Drury, Farmer et al. We have ALL the needed pieces besides Castillo to win this year. Heaney, WB, May and maybe BT will round out the rotation and bullpen with the addition of Castillo. CT’s and JT’s return should unfortunately end MM’s season but resign him next year to incentive filled contract. Give Vargas and Busch a cup in September and we’ll be rollin’ in October!!
MLB owners, players union can’t agree on international draft
Qualifying offer for major league free agents remains in place through 2026
That’s good news for us.
We can get an extra pick if we lose Trea, Urias, Buehler or Kershaw after giving them a QO.
Also much less likely, Bellinger and almost completely unlikely, Muncy.
Someone (who shall remain unnamed) wrote and then trashed this earlier:
“Someone should put a fork in Moronta.”
I am not saying that, but I am saying that his problems started with a fork… and a spoon!
He looked good in Atlanta dont give up hope just yet…he wont be on the playoff roster anyway but can provide innings down the strectch….
MLB and MLBPA have agreed to build a $1 Billion Dollar Building to house all the Rumors!
… Bada Bing…
But seriously, Folks.
Michael – really enjoyed today’s article.
Ramon was my fav Dodger and I saw him pitch many times during my year in LA in 90. What a talented family.
Didn’t realise he was involved with the Orioles
Did anyone else see the Moronta innings?
Certainly had a bit of everything.
I loved Joe’s gasp of amazement when he finally got the final out. Thought Will did an incredible job back there.
Time to get back on track tonight.
Thanks Watford. I had no clue what he was doing either. But found it during the research. Moronta looks great for two hitters and then loses the K zone. He has done that several times. My solution, bring him in with one out.
* Baseball is such a unique game. In college football, can you imagine Vanderbilt having a game where everything goes there way and they beat Alabama, who has nothing go right. The last place team beating the first place team that would be called the game of the millennium for Vandy. In baseball, the last place team beats the first place team and it’s called………………………Monday.
* Gonsolin looks a little fatigued and lacked sharpness but he was also the victim of some bad luck. Maybe he could use a blow but I’m trying hard not to read too much into his recent spiral.
* Freddie Freeman is a treat to watch daily and is way better then I anticipated. He is so unselfish. He does so many things to help his club. Like pulling a pitch in the 4th to move Turner to third with no outs. He did his job. Sadly Smith popped up and Jake took a called strike out. But it was a nice pro AB by Freddie.
* Muncy expanded away and got a base hit. It’s an improvement when he swings the bat.
* Espino did a righty version of Tyler Anderson. He isn’t going to blow you away. He just gets you out.
* I hope Lamb and Thompson keep doing well. Thompson is so pleasing in left field defensively, except for the ball he pulled up on. Did he see that ball? He’s usually so smooth and sure handed out there.
* Mookie could have made a difference last night, he didn’t. He had a poor game leaving ducks on the pond with 2 strikeouts. He took a fastball cock shot with the bases loaded. for strike 3 in the 5th, which was a big AB. Orel speculation that he was looking change up or slider. That line of thinking precedes the notion that guys have to be looking for a specific pitch to be successful and if they don’t get what they expect they’re just out. And that isn’t true. In that situation isn’t Mookie looking fastball and adjusting to something else? I guess he just got fooled. but I find it hard to believe he’s sitting change up in that situation. Maybe that’s not how it works anymore.
* I thought Carl Edwards was a NASCAR driver.
* Sometimes I actually want to hear Joe and Orel’s comments in an important situation, but I can’t. Even on my TV. That’s because Dieter Ruehle drowns them out completely with that friggin organ. Who can’t appreciate Beetle classics ending with the canned “Let’s Go Dodgers” at an ear damaging volume? Dieter, get off my lawn.
Hey Phil, take it easy on Dieter. He’s playing for the stadium crowd who can’t even hear Joe and Orel.
If you have a problem with the organ drowning out the announcers that’s a production problem at the network.
Just trying to help you channel your anger in the right direction, my friend.
Based on what Brandon Gomes said, sounds like the Dodgers may seriously pursue Juan Soto. Generational talent and all. Seems like Trea Turner believes the Dodgers will make a deal.
Starting pitching may make more sense. Castillo could be a difference maker in the playoffs. But ultimately neither Darvish or Scherzer got the Dodgers a World Series Championship. But, who knows? Friedman and the Dodgers seem to be of the go big or go home mindset.
Long term I would rather have Soto than any of the available pitchers. Do you have enough top flight pitching to get a championship? Or can we piece together a good rotation with May, Buehler and Heaney returning. If Gonsolin bounces back in his next start everybody will feel better. I think Kershaw will be fine.
Gomes certainly made a point of saying the Dodger farm system is pretty much loaded and they can pursue Soto.
Maybe all this just goes into the billion dollar building for rumors.
But, hey, go with the flow. It’s what makes this time of the year fun.
10:10 PM ET
Nationals (33-65)
Dodgers (64-31)
SP Mitch White R
1-2 3.78 ERA 50 IP 43K
Confirmed Lineup
RF Mookie Betts R
SS Trea Turner R
1B F. Freeman L
C Will Smith R
DH Jake Lamb L
3B Max Muncy L
2B Gavin Lux L
CF C. Bellinger L
LF T. Thompson R
DODGERS RECALL GARRETT CLEAVINGER
LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles Dodgers recalled left-handed pitcher Garrett Cleavinger and optioned right-handed pitcher Reyes Moronta.
Cleavinger, 28, returns for his third stint with the Dodgers and he is a combined 0-0 with a 3.38 ERA (1 ER/2.2 IP) and four strikeouts in three games for Los Angeles this season. He has been with the Dodgers two seasons, and he is combined 2-4 with a 3.04 ERA (7 ER/20.2 IP) and 25 strikeouts in 25 appearances. With Triple-A Oklahoma City, he was 0-2 with a 2.79 ERA (9 ER/29.0 IP) and 47 strikeouts in 22 games. He was acquired by the Dodgers on December 29, 2020, in a three-team trade from the Philadelphia Phillies.
Moronta, 29, pitched last night, tossing a scoreless inning with two walks and three strikeouts. On the campaign, he is 0-0 with a 4.67 ERA (9 ER/17.1 IP) and 20 strikeouts in 16 games. He is in his fifth Major League season, and he is a combined 8-9 with a 2.89 ERA (48 ER/149.2 IP) and 182 strikeouts against 81 walks with San Francisco (2017-2021) and Los Angeles (2022). He was signed as a minor league free agent with the Dodgers on March 12, 2022.
Saw that one coming but did not think it would be Cleavinger. That gives them four lefties in the pen, Cleavinger, Vesia, Price and Ferguson. Bickford, Phillips and Kimbrel the only righties. Something will change when Heaney and Treinen come back. 7 days to the deadline. Lot of smoke out there, no fires yet. Fan Nation reported that the Astros are being very agressive. Personally, I would like to see them get both Soto and Castillo. Makes the team that much better. Taylor will be back in a week or so, they do not need Drury or Happ when that happens. Outfield of Soto, Bellinger and Betts would be the best in the league by far. Prospects are just that. The Dodgers are deep enough and smart enough to make a package that could land both. Lux to me is untouchable and could not be included in any deal. He is insurance for the possibility of losing Turner to free agency.
To get bothy Soto and Castillo would probably cost the following players:
Bobby Miller
Ryan Pepiot
Andy Pages
Dustin May
Mike Busch
Eddys Leonard
James Outman
Kody Hoese
It’s a lot to pay, but it might be worth it. Boy, that would gut the farm. Additionally, the Dodgers would likely have to take back Patrick Corbin. If anyone could fix him, it would be the Dodgers.
Playoff Lineup:
1. Betts RF
2. Soto LF
3. Turner SS
4. Freeman 1B
5. Smith C
6. Lux 2B
7. J-Turner DH
8. Muncy 3B
9. Bellinger CF
Bench:
Thompson
Barnes
Taylor
Alberto
Rotation:
1. Urias
2. Castillo
3. Kershaw
4. Anderson
5. Gonsolin
Bullpen:
1. Heaney
2. Corbin (unless released)
3. Treinen
4. Almonte
5. Buehler
6. Ferguson
7. Graterol
No room for Mitch White, Tommy Kahnle, Danny Duffy, Alex Vesia, Evan Phillips, Phil Bickford, Justin Bruihl, Jake Lamb, Edwin Rios, and Zach McKinstry.
Duffy hasn’t pitched in two years, no big loss, Rios is not expected back soon. Only keeper I see is Phillips. He would take Treinen’s place if Blake is not ready. Miller is really the only prospect on that list I would not like to see traded. But even he is not a sure thing. Maybe I would add May to the list. And I think one of those teams would love to have one of the Dodgers catching prospects. The Reds are really thin at catcher. One other thing, there was really only one ball hit hard off of Gonsolin last night. The homer to left. Everything else was not really squared up. Sometimes ya just can’t count on the baseball gods to be nice. I’ll give you one really good reason I want the Dodgers to trade for Soto. I do not want to see that guy in Padres brown.
Where’s the love for Moronta? Big dude pitched out of big trouble!
But seriously folks…
Since his arrival, Trayce trails only Freddie in OPS, and Lamb is between Mookie and Trea. Compare that to what guys like Souza and McKinney did last year. I assume both will stay when Taylor returns–and somebody will be moved in a trade package.
It was painful when Mookie looked at a 3rd strike yesterday with runners on. Oh well. But he sure looked like Mookie when he snared that drive and threw a strike to double up Soto at first. How many other right fielders would have made that play? Most would have been content with the catch. Gold glove stuff.
I had little interest in Soto at first, but when I realized the Dodgers could have him for 3 pennant drives, well… that makes it more intriguing.
But then I wonder: What if Soto catches the mysterious affliction that turned Belli from an MVP to what we’ve seen these last couple of years?
It’s odd to develop an emotional attachment to prospects I’ve just read about or seen in highlights. i really don’t want to lose Cartaya….
I’d make an exception to get Ohtani. The Angels (and Trout) need a lot of help. Of all the possible deals, I’d prefer a win-win that could help make an October Freeway Series a reality.
No way I would give up both May and Miller.
I ´d rather give up White and Gonsolin. Sell high. White has proven to be a valuable Nr. 4 or Nr. 5 starter and Gonsolin is having a career year but I still do not trust him to be a frontline starter .
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I honestly thought the idea of acquiring Soto was the thinking of a mad man or dope fiend, but the more I’m reading the more I think it might be a 40/60 % chance (perhaps 50/50) we acquire him. I hate to see the FO give up so much talent but what an offensive line-up we would have with the addition of Soto.
Never thought I would say that one week ago, but I’m now thinking it might happen and would love it if it indeed came to fruition, but would be OK if it did not.
Not sure they pursue both. That would be a Pretty Big Hit. Probably too high a mountain for an organization that depends on young players coming through the system to sustain their success. I suppose the cost of landing Soto might depend on Corbin’s contract. But taking the entire contract would be a hefty hit for a team with a substantial payroll already. That might even give pause to a team headed toward $600 million in annual revenue. Pablo Lopez is apparently on the trade market. Marlins looking to upgrade offense. Another possibility.
Ok, 1:00 am + here in Puerto Rico just to see Dave Roberts surrender this game. Good Night.
Another blown game by Doc. Friedman is to blame too for giving Doc another crappy reliever to use Cleavinger.
Just when you start thinking Lux could be really, really good…..
That play was such a mess. Why did Lux wait for the ball to reach him? Why didn’t he move up to meet the ball and make a firm throw?
He played it like he had plenty of time, as if assuming Josh Bell, the big lug, wouldn’t be hustling.
This wasn’t so much the classic “yips” as the setup. Just poor fundamentals.
And the game went downhill from there.
On the positive side, another sweet assist from Mookie. Mitch White settled down and deserved a W.
Lux has played a flawless 2b with several great plays for weeks now . An error like yesterday happens to the best of them. Bad timing that it was followed by a 2 run bomb. Sh.it happens.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another 3 K night by Max. Enough of that BS, I think we’ve seen enough where this is who he is going to be this year.
I agree. The guy is useless in his season long slump. At some point he has to be removed from the starting lineup.
Muncy is below -160 now and has stopped drawing BBs too. Yes, we have a 10.5 game lead but we are aiming for the best record in MLB and Muncy is killing just about every rallye we start. Give Bush or Vargas a shot.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!