No-Hitters: Soon to be extinct?

The last Dodger no-hitter was a combined effort by Buehler, Tony Cingrani, Yimi Garcia and Adam Liberatore against the Padres in Mexico City, Mexico on May 4, 2018. It was the first combined no hitter in team history, and it was also the first no hitter thrown outside of the United States or Canada.

The way most of us remember Koufax

In their long history, Dodger pitchers have thrown 26 no-hitters. They have been no-hit 20 times. The first one in team history was thrown by Sam Kimber on October 4, 1884. It was a 10-inning game that ended in a tie. Only 3 Dodger pitchers have thrown more than one, Koufax, 4, Erskine and Adonis Terry, 2 each. Koufax has the only perfect game. Dodger pitchers have had some close calls the last couple of years. Max Scherzer took one into the 8th inning last season. He had a perfecto going before it was broken up. Rich Hill pitched nine no-hit innings against the Pirates before giving up a walk off to Josh Harrison a few years ago. Kershaw and Anderson carried no-hit bids through the 7th this year.

Just the other day, the Yankees were no-hit in a combined effort by Astro’s pitchers. But with pitch counts and serious arm injuries so common now, pitchers will probably have less opportunities to finish what they start. I have seen a couple on TV. Kershaw’s over the Rockies, Martinez beating the Dodgers, a Nolan Ryan win over LA. They are exciting to say the least. Most of the excitement coming in the late innings as the tension builds.

In 2010, there were 6 no-hitters thrown. Two of those were thrown by Roy Halladay of the Phillies. The second one was thrown in the playoffs against the Reds. Only the second time in baseball history that a no-hitter was thrown in the post season. Most Dodger fans remember the other one. Don Larsen’s perfect game.

in 2011, there were only three. 2012, there were seven, one of them a combined effort against the Dodgers by the Mariners. They used 6 pitchers to accomplish the feat. 2013, there were 3 once again. In 2014, 5 no-noes’ were thrown, two of them by Dodgers, Kershaw and Beckett. In 2015, the number went up again to seven, with two of those being throw against the Dodgers. Mike Fiers and Jake Arrieta fired those gems.

2016, and 2017, there was only one in either year. Arrieta got his second in 16, and Edison Volquez the only one in 2017. 2018 would see three, one of them the combined effort by the Dodgers. Four in 2019. The shortened 2020 season saw two, both by pitchers for Chicago teams. In 2021, something must have clicked because the number soared and there were eight no-hitters. Cubs threw a combined one against the Dodgers at Dodger Stadium. SO far this year, there have been three. Two of those were of the combined variety, the Astros and the Mets staff’s throwing them. The other was thrown by Angel rookie, Reid Detmers.

So will the combo be the wave of the future for no-hitters? With pitch counts, one would think so. A starter needs to be extremely efficient to make it through nine innings in this era. When Scherzer flirted with the perfect game last year, his pitch count was not really at what for him would be considered a high number. Kersh was pulled from his start against the Twins simply because he was coming off of a season that ended with injurie.

We might never see another performance like that in our lifetimes. The game is changing. And the no-hitter is getting more and more rare.

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  1. So my prediction of the 4-7 and 9 hitters going 3-20 with the team leaving 11 runners LOB was slightly wrong but we won so I’m delighted. Never predicted the Dodgers would lose, but only tried to point out that the lower half of the batting order sans Lux has been horrible. My prediction wasn’t that far off as the 4-7 and 9 hitters actually went 4-19 with the entire line-up leaving 14 runners LOB. To their credit those hitters did get 3 BB’s and a scoring sac fly. Improvement indeed.

    I’m going to continue to harp that Muncy has to sit. Dude is hitting .162 with an OPS of .612, that’s right .612! He’ll run into one once in awhile but he’s constantly taking pitches that are center cut and then swings at a pitch out of the zone. A #4 hitter should not have the hitting approach of walk first, hit the ball second. The Dodger braintrust should give him until the all-star break to find his groove and if he doesn’t find it, it’s time to see Busch or Vargas or even Lamb with increased playing time at 3B and/or DH.

    1. Your prediction was closer to reality than most on this site. But, why so sour all the time? You do realize we’re in first place?

      I couldn’t agree more regarding Muncy. We must have the worst number 4 hitting collectively in baseball. The algorithm that spits out the lineup needs to be tweaked with more weight given to recent performance.

      1. I guess I’m just such a huge fan that I want perfection and that’s completely on me. I despise bad fundamental baseball and when I see hitters failing to go the other way when needed, or hit the ball in the air when needed or get in a terrible run down on the bases because of a poor decision it grates on me.

        1. I hear you, but we are spoiled. Try watching other teams, when they aren’t playing us that is. It seems every team brings their A game when they play us.

          I went to an Angels / Blue Jays game a couple of years ago and thought how sloppy the play was.

          Our hitters definitely have their hitting philosophy and it seldom includes going the other way. Especially for the ones that came up through our system. Gavin recently adjusted and you can see the results. Others are fully locked into the pull everything approach. I also find this frustrating.

          I love aggressive baserunning, but don’t like some of the dumb mistakes. Overall would rather see aggressiveness with occasional lapses that playing it safe all the time.

  2. I agree. Especially when you know you have JT and Cody following you it seems that an aggressive approach i what is called for. If he is in the lineup for walks, then let him bat second

      1. Up or down what’s the difference.? So move him down and PUT Cody cleanup? If you only have 4-5 decent hitters, and on any given day at least one of them goes 0-4. You don’t have a lot of opportunities to score runs. So we ARE in first place, so I guess everyone else is worse!!

        1. Up or down, what’s the difference? So, why suggest batting him second?

          Yes, everyone else is worse except for the Yankees and Blue Jays at this exact point in time.

          If you only have 4-5 decent hitters? True, but it still doesn’t justify your absolute worst hitter batting 4th, now does it?

          1. meaning if all he is good for is walks, let him bat second and get on base for our ‘good’ hitters instead of walking in front of JT and Cody who are going 0-4 most days

          2. His 318 on base percentage doesn’t justify hitting second. 6 guys have a better OBP than that on the team. The only ones worse are JT and Belli.

        2. Huge difference your best hitter hits second or third and there is no way Muncy should be potentially getting an extra AB over pretty much anyone at this point. Even though he draws walks his OBP is a paltry .318 which is one of the lowest on the team.

  3. Always nice to win, but hard to be excited about beating the Rockies. Let’s see what the line-up can produce against quality Padre pitching.

    1. I am a Dodger fan. But I think the Padres will win 3 of 4. Dodgers hitting is terrible. Hope I am wrong.

      1. By the way SD has scored 19 fewer runs and played 3 MORE games.

        I guess their hitting is Atrocious….

  4. Well, I don’t know OldBear. It’s hard to make an argument that they’re getting more rare when a whopping 7 no-no’s were thrown just last year. But, overall complete games as whole are going the way of the do-do bird. It seems that the no-no is the exception to the rule. We might not see a Dodger’s no hitter until Doc (the No-no killer) moves on. It think he’s killed more no hitters than Koufax pitched them.

    My brother recently read a book titled The Arm by Jeff Passan. The big takeaway is that they haven’t found any correlation with pitch limits and arm health.

    I’m not sure where it goes from here. I tend the think that trends, especially in baseball, come and go. But, no doubt, we won’t see a lot of complete games any longer. There’s just too many live bullpen arms to justify letting a pitcher finish what they started. But, with the No-no being the exception to the rule, I don’t think there will be necessarily less of that variety.

    We return from a 6-3 road trip tonight, which would typically be seen as a success, if it weren’t for losing 2-3 from the Rockies. Still, it was good to get that win last night and avoid being swept. We did well against a good Braves team in a closely played series after beating down the Reds for 3 straight. It looked like the team was heating up against the Reds when we scored at least 8 runs in each game, but we slipped back into mediocrity scoring 4 runs or less in 4 of the next 5 games, finally putting up another 8 spot yesterday.

    The offense is a little inconsistent. It seems that the forever struggling players just can’t seem to string a few in a row. It’s sad to see what’s become of a power packed, dynamic middle of the order in JT, Muncy and Belli. We’re just about to the half way mark having played 74 games and somehow our worst hitter is still batting 4th. That is pretty much the definition of insanity.

    On the bright side, Gavin Lux is creeping closer to that elusive 300 mark. Not bad for a guy that everyone wanted gone and was a platoon player not long ago. In fact, he’s hitting 306 against lefties this year proving that sometimes platoons are a self fulfilling prophecy, especially when you’re stunting a young player’s development by sitting those lefty hitters against same side pitchers. Even worse when most of our prospects seem to hit from the left side in recent memory.

    It looks like Mookie is getting close, but not close enough to do damage against the Padres. The Dodgers were hopeful that the tin man would be back for the Padres series, but he’s just beginning baseball activities, so he’s just about a week or so away and the plan is to have him DH initially after his return. That will hopefully light a fire under JT’s and Muncy’s asses.

    I wonder what that will look like? Muncy at 2B, JT at 3B with Lux in LF and CT3 in right? Or will they finally give JT and Max some much needed bench time? A trip to the IL?

    We’re starting to get into the meat of the season as the calendar is turning to July. The All-Star game is at Dodger stadium this year and it isn’t looking good for Will Smith. I guess he’s gonna have to wait another year as his fourth place standing at this point will most likely keep him out with d’Arnaud, Molina and Contreras all leading in votes with just one day left. But, at least we’ll be represented by Betts and soon to be former Dodger TT.

    Leading up to the break, we’ll play two good teams (Padres and Cardinals) and three bad ones (Rockies, Cubs and Angels). After that, we’ll start to get some pitching reinforcements just before the trade deadline.

    Exciting times ahead!

    1. I have been saying this for a couple of months.We must sign Trea Turner,he is too valuable to our team.Just look at his stats and watch him play.Pay him what it takes!

      1. There is a story on yardbarker.com about Trea most likely being signed by the Phillies who are expected to make a huge push for him. Also says the Dodgers would target Carlos Correa. Which I believe there is not a chance in hell they would do.

      2. SIGN XANDER he fits this team better than Trea and it won’t take a 10 year deal to get him…..automatically becomes your #3 hitter and defense is comparable. Could easily slide over to 3rd if needed….were going to need one of those as well.

      3. I am a Dodger fan. But I think the Padres will win 3 of 4. Dodgers hitting is terrible. Hope I am wrong.

        1. You can say that again?!? lol

          Well, we’ve scored more runs than they have and allowed less, but they’re the better team apparently.

          I’m very much looking forward to this series. They haven’t been scoring many runs lately.

    2. I think if there are more no-hitters they will be more of the combined variety than thrown by one pitcher. Last season was an anomaly. Most no-hitters ever in a single year I think, or it tied the record.

    3. B&P –

      I want to compliment you on your daily contributions to LADT. While I agree with many of your points – even those I don’t agree with I find thought provoking. Sometimes I even change my mind. Thanks for the educational experience; I am beginning to wish you were in the Dodger’s front office….

  5. Right now we just can’t have all three of the black hole gang in the same lineup. It’s tough playing 6vs9. I want to see Lamb in the lineup against righties and would love to see Vargas in there especially while Mookie is out. Give the kid a shot!

    1. There you go. One step closer to the bigs. Let’s see how he adjusts to AAA before calling for a call up.

      Remember, it’s a lot tougher to a player to get his first callup with a team like the Dodgers than it is to get your start with the Pirates like Oneil Cruz, who isn’t faring very well in the early going.

  6. AS last night’s lineup demonstrated, when several hitters execute, it really doesn’t matter who bats where. We tend to blame the batting order when in fact, it is usually the execution!

    1. lol – I don’t think you really believe that batting order doesn’t matter.

  7. Here’s the Minor League Report from Last Night:

    1. Mike Grove was hit like Tommy Lasorda throwing BP.
    2. Nobody could hit except Diego who had a HR and 2 BB.
    3. Kyle Hurt pitched another 5 No-Hit Innings 1 BB – 10 K’s/ 2.21 ERA/ 40 IP, 64 K 1.06 WHIP – He’s 24 and should move to Tulsa.
    4. Everyone else sucked.

    1. 4. Yadier Alvarez with 0,2 more scoreless innings , first time on back to back games if I am not mistaken. Could be a difference maker down the stretch with his stuff.
      And quite a feel-good-story.

      Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!

      1. I did not include Yadier because he came in after El Paso had just scored 5 runs to make the score 14-3 with 1 out. He got a fielder’s choice out and then struck out old-over-the-hill Robinson Cano. Nothing amazing really, but he has stepped up of late.

    2. So, good? The word is that Tommy wouldn’t throw many strikes making sure he looked good. Damn, Diego should have just skipped over A+. This guys is like “The Natural”.

  8. * B&P, I’ve said repeatedly that I can find no science to correlate pitch counts and arm health. That statement is supported by “The Arm” by Passan, as you mentioned. It’s a good read as we trend to less and less pitches and less and less expectations to go deeper into games.
    * To that point In the booth last night, Karros and Joe were having a conversation as to how long you go with Urias. He had just had a clean 5th and started the 6th. He was at 80 pitches. They proved to have a crystal ball as Urias gave up a walk and 2 singles and was gone at 89 pitches after 5.1. There are other circumstances at play here but I think this is a “self fulling prophesy” You get what you expect.
    * Trea Turner. Offer 180 million for 6 years with later opt out stuff as a starter and see how that plays. I really don’t want to lose this guy.
    * As MT reminds us, progress is not always linear. Lux is a great example. From doubts this spring to how he’s doing now. I think he should just be the regular 2nd baseman. He needs to be the everyday guy with Alberto spelling him. He’s earned the job. If Muncy need a position that’s not Lux’s problem. Find a spot for Muncy at DH or 3rd with JT. Or on the DL But keep Lux at 2nd and not left field.
    * An opportunity missed maybe for some fun with the Stanley Cup players at the game. If allowed, how fun would it have been to have Kirsten interview the Cuppers about Eddie Alvarez and ask if they could beat him skating? Get their take on the the guy.
    * I swear on Bryant’s pop up single to right Lux busted his ass from a shift while Thompson semi jogged in, as it dropped. Joe talked through the play and the replay talking about Mark Appel. I don’t care about Mark Appel. Thompson needs to bust his ass out there while he has the opportunity.

    1. How do you expect a pitcher to go more that 80 something pitches if he never goes over 80 something pitches.? They brought him up this way, babying him as a teenager, but through it all out the door to rush him to pitch when others got injured. They completely mishandled Julio. I love the guy and hope he signs an extension, avoiding free agency.

      So yes, I agree with you and have every time you brought it up.

      Lux would have gotten to that ball easily if they weren’t in shift formation.

      I would like to keep Trea, for a Freddie like contract, but not a Seager like contract. Especially with Lux on the team. Unlike a lot of others on this site, I ignored what everyone said about him and judged by my eyes. The dude is athletic. He might be prone to pressing a bit, but the dude has all the skills to be a MLB shortstop. He reminds me a lot of Trea Turner. Boot some plays, but make a lot that others won’t. He’s getting over his throwing problems with better footwork. It will transfer over to short.

      Busch looks very close to ready and Vargas is probably already ready. Part of me wants the Dodgers to plan for Vargas and Busch next year. One plays second, the other plays third, just like Muncy. A perfect time to let those three battle for two positions. Doc better start get used to batting lefties back to back.

  9. Wouldn’t give that too much validity.

    Just like I dont give too much validity to the report from Gottlieb, just the media trying to get clicks and stir things up….

    Solid win last night lets keep this rolling: 11 game homestand, largest of the season coming up.

  10. One thing about Trea, Id like to see him produce in the post-season. Without looking up his stats I know he was awful for us last year.

    I think that changes this year, but I want to see it.

    Plus I dont like NC STATE, but I do like Trea.

  11. The possibility exists that Trea does not want to play on the West Coast. I have heard these Rumors but cannot confirm (no one can).

    I have 2 predictions:

    1. There is no way AF can extend him now (at anything short of 10 years – $350 Million);
    2. If he keeps up this level of play, his contract will exceed Lindors.

  12. On Jeff Passan and Pitch Counts:

    The two teams best known for “pitch counts” are the Dodgers and the Rays.

    They are also consistently at or near the top of Team ERA each season.

    Jeff Passan is known for “word counts” that sell books!

    I tend to side with people who do it rather than those who just talk about it.

    1. Was that suppose to make sense?

      Passan is a reporter. He reports on things. He is informed on such things.

      And he does it very, very well.

      If he didn’t, we’d have to rely on blogs like this! Full of uninformed people.

      1. What doesn’t make sense about that? Teams that have pitch counts typically have the best ERAs. Do I need to speak slowly so that you can comprehend that? When you come back with a smart-ass comment, be ready to defend it – when people say that doesn’t makes sense, to me it means: “I don’t agree but my take sucks!”

        Do you really believe any of the teams who believe in pitch limits are going to tell Pannan why and give him their research? If you do, I have a Bridge you are likely interested in.

        Passan is a reporter and that somehow elevates him? Man are you delusional!

        If William Goldman pegged Hollywood when he wrote accusingly, “Nobody knows anything,” Passan tears into baseball’s plague of elbow injuries and walks away with the same conclusion.

        1. I would surmise that while they may not tell Pannan, they will tell Passan.

          Yeah, of course it elevates him. Because he reports on the industry. And gets good information.

      1. I read about half the book and could not lose any more brain cells. For the record, I am not a fan of pitch counts, but there is a lot of stuff there without substance. I wanted to believe it – I just wasn’t persuaded. As I mentioned, I do not like pitch counts, but it’s just an opinion.

        I bought the book because I wanted to believe what he was saying, but that book did not persuade me.

  13. Two things about TT resigning. Don’t see him taking deferred money or paying CA state tax. And with Lux finally delivering the goods, I see him at SS next year and maybe Busch at second. If Dodgers don’t win it this year, then I think AF goes for a competitive rebuild. A lot of vets will be gone.

    1. There are a lot of conferences and maybe even schools that will not be able to field football teams under the new rules.

  14. Senate Committee Examining MLB’s Antitrust Exemption
    By Anthony Franco | June 30, 2022 at 11:01am CDT

    This week, the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee reached out to the non-profit group Advocates For Minor Leaguers for further information on Major League Baseball’s antitrust exemption. Evan Drellich of the Athletic and Jeff Passan of ESPN (Twitter thread) were among those to cover the development in detail.

    The focus of the current inquiry is on how the antitrust exemption affects minor league player pay, the 2019-20 reduction of the number of minor league teams, and the league’s acquisition process for international amateurs. Senators from both parties released statements, which can be found in Drellich’s piece, expressing support for a reexamination of the exemption. MLB has not commented on the matter.

    The exemption has been in place for a century. It dates back to a 1922 case in which the Supreme Court ruled that MLB was an intrastate affair outside the purview of the interstate commerce being regulated by federal antitrust law. In subsequent cases, the Court has acknowledged its original reasoning was overly simplistic and no longer applicable in declining to expand the exemption to other professional sports leagues. The Court has nevertheless left the onus on Congress to overturn MLB’s exemption with a new piece of legislation, which it has yet to do.

    Passan and Drellich examine the implications of the antitrust exemption in greater detail. Its arguably biggest impact has been in allowing teams to fix low salaries for minor leaguers, most of whom are not part of the MLB Players Association and do not have their own union. Drellich notes that other issues like television blackouts and the process for relocating MLB franchises may also be impacted were Congress to modify or lift the exemption.

    While an overhaul of the antitrust exemption could have wide-ranging effects on affiliated ball, this is hardly the first time Congresspeople have hinted at the possibility. In recent years, legislators on different sides of the political aisle have publicly expressed a desire to reconsider or revoke the exemption. Those have come in response to MLB decisions as varied as the minor league restructuring and the call to move the 2021 All-Star Game from Atlanta to Denver. To this point, Congress has not moved forward with any serious threat to the exemption; it’s possible, seemingly likely, this inquiry from the Judiciary Committee also winds up blowing over without an alteration to the existing system.

    The Committee’s examination into the international amateur market comes at a time when that process may be nearing an overhaul anyhow. MLB’s desire for a draft to replace the international signing period proved a sticking point in last offseason’s collective bargaining negotiations — one which has yet to be resolved. The MLBPA refused to sign off on an international draft during the winter, and the parties agreed to extend their window for those talks. If the league and union agree on an international draft by July 25, the qualifying offer system — which serves as a drag on the market for some free agents by attaching draft pick forfeiture for signing them — would be eliminated. If the parties do not agree on an international draft, the current amateur signing process and QO will remain in place, likely to again be a key topic during the post-2026 CBA negotiations.

  15. How about trading now

    MMuncy RPepiot
    4
    BDrury
    TMahle. ?

    We got the fifth starter and a good hitter who plays OF & 3B. We can then let Lux undisturbed at 2nd.

    1. Why would Cincy take Muncy unless the Dodgers pay all his salary and Pepiot is already better than Mahle? Drury? Mehhhh

    2. I like Mahle, I knew him when he was in High School. But he’s not as good as the guys we already have, including Ryan Pepiot and Mitch White. As for Drury, he’s currently in his best year and it isn’t as good as any of Muncy’s years so that would be a very shortsighted trade. Muncy may be back to himself in the second half and Drury may be back to himself in the second half. No thanks.

      I would rather just see a Vargas call up than try to count on Drury.

  16. 10:10 PM ET

    Padres (46-31)
    Dodgers (46-28)

    SP Mitch White R
    1-1 4.25 ERA 29.2IP 30K
    Confirmed Lineup
    SS Trea Turner R
    1B F. Freeman L
    C Will Smith R
    2B Max Muncy L
    3B J. Turner R
    CF C. Bellinger L
    DH Jake Lamb L
    RF Chris Taylor R
    LF Gavin Lux L

    Clear-day
    0% Rain
    76° Wind 7 mph Out

    06/29/22 OF James Outman assigned to Oklahoma City Dodgers from Tulsa Drillers.
    06/30/22 Los Angeles Dodgers transferred RHP Daniel Hudson from the 15-day injured list to the 60-day injured list. Torn anterior cruciate ligament.
    06/30/22 Los Angeles Dodgers claimed RHP Ian Gibaut off waivers from Cleveland Guardians.

    1. Gibaut might be a solid pickup!

      I like today’s lineup, it’s as good as you could expect for the resources that they have. I wouldn’t have Muncy batting 4th, but whatever. Glad to see Lamb get a shot against Musgrove.

  17. LAVF, great info on a topic that raises its head every once in awhile. If you recall at the 11th hour of negotiations during the last Collective Bargaining Agreement, MLB tossed in the International Draft as a kicker. Just a little ho-hum pork barrel piece that has been pursued the last 20+ years. Sandy Anderson was assigned the task by MLB. So far, like the Anti Trust Agreement no progress has been made. The big reason is the Latin Countries, the DR in particular, don’t want it. If you think the DR’s main export is sugar, or rum, or tourism? Fact is, it’s baseball players. And the academies and facilities to generated pro players. The Biscones are powerful and control the market for youth prospects who can sign at 16.5. They are more then agents for their commissions that reach 50%. They house prospects, feed them and often become surrogate parents as the kids develop to hone their skills as prospects. There are good ones and sleezy
    one. It’s suspected they steroid up some kids as well. They obviously don’t want any restrictions like an International Draft.
    I just laughed when MLB tossed that chip into the CBA late in the process.
    It’s like the Electorial College. Every few years there is cursory attention paid to change it which goes nowhere. Just like Congress gets fired up over the Anti Trust Exemption. Since Congress should be focused on more pressing matters, the topic fades into the sunset.

    1. This the key if we get compensation for Trea Turner if he chooses to become a free agent and we extend him a qualifying offer if there is no international draft by July 25.

      ‘If the league and union agree on an international draft by July 25, the qualifying offer system — which serves as a drag on the market for some free agents by attaching draft pick forfeiture for signing them — would be eliminated. If the parties do not agree on an international draft, the current amateur signing process and QO will remain in place, likely to again be a key topic during the post-2026 CBA negotiations”

      Teams can only receive compensation if they have made a qualifying offer to the free agent, and such an offer can only be made to players who have never received a qualifying offer previously in their career and who were on the team’s roster for the entirety of the previous season (i.e., were not acquired via trade midseason).

      1. Great information AVF. I remember the July 25 deadline as part of the final compromise to get the CBA signed to get baseball going again. Good stuff. Thanks

    2. Yeah, I remember Big Papi saying, “Slow down now, they aren’t ready for that down there”. Lot’s of dark money with international players.

  18. Trending rumor;

    Talks are intensifying between the #Nationals and Juan Soto regarding a second offer from the team to the star for a 13-years, $425 million extension, which will increase the initial $350 million offer by $75 million.

  19. I hope I’m wrong, but based on the Dodgers’ powerful shit hitting, and already in the first innings losing 1 – 0 against Musgrove…. I think this game is over!

  20. Jorge, you just have to stop sugarcoating your opinions! That was one of the worst swings by Bellinger I’ve ever seen! Usually it takes JT a month to warm up, maybe because he’s older it took him 2 months this year.

  21. Nice job Mitch, but note to self. THROW YOUR CHANGEUP more if you want to be a major league starter! Your stuff isn’t good enough to be a two pitch starter. The couple of changes you threw tonight looked good and had some movement to them. We need you to be good.

  22. I think that was a questionable move to take out White that early in the game. The bullpen isn’t deep enough for a tight game like this. Considering Treinen and Hudson are down and Musgrove on the other side.

    1. I forgot to mention also considering Doc’s bullpen management.

      I hope it works out.

      1. It worked so far.

        Even when it works, people still criticize him. When a move doesn’t work, it’s his fault and if it works, they still criticize it.

      2. It worked good. Also Kimbrel looked good he wasn’t wild. He has excellent career stats. If he’s not wild he can be excellent.

        1. Hi Eric – hope things are going well.

          I think Kimbrel gotta little help from the guy behind the dish to be honest, but he does have filthy stuff when he’s on.

          Props to Mitch White.

          Like Jorge – I don’t like the Padres.

  23. Guess there is some life in JT’s bat after all. It would be great if he becomes the old JT again. Saw the first homer, missed the second. Getting ready to head for home.

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