Los Angeles Dodgers and 3B

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1. Wrote something in the last posting, but comments were closed and I didn’t it all to go to waste. Hope everyone enjoyed their Thanksgiving.

   51. I was born and raised in Orange County near Old Tustin. I never grew up a particularly devoted sports fan. I didn’t play little league ball, and although my dad did sign me up for AYSO soccer one year, he was somewhat of a haphazard sports dad and didn’t really encourage my athletic participation.

   I was never really a team sports kid, either. My outlet was more individual, and I discovered I wasn’t a bad endurance athlete, so running and then cycling became my athletic endeavors.

   My exposure to the Dodgers and to sports in general really came from my now brother-in-law, who was a sports junkie then and now. I do remember being in elementary school and hearing other kids talk about this winning streak by this rookie pitcher named Fernando Valenzuela, but baseball didn’t really start to capture my imagination until I heard the cheering next door in Mr French’s class (he was a baseball fan) when Rick Monday hit that clinching home run against the Expos. I remember fans at Dodger Stadium tossing torn up napkins like confetti from the upper deck during that one game playoff against the Astros.

   What hooked me was following the drama as the Dodgers came from back from an 0-2 deficit. It’s when I started to pay attention and notice the game more closely; the key home runs by Yeager (who I think was a co-MVP of the WS that year), the controversial decision to pull Tommy John in a key game. I remember George Steinbrenner issuing an apology to Yankee fans for the play of his team before the game was even over.

   I was introduced to characters in a drama. After that, I was in. The following year I started reading the box scores at the back of the Sports Section of the LA Times. I began to emulate the batting stance of Pedro Guerrero in by back yard. I listened to Vin on the radio I kept in my bedroom.

   My passion for the Dodgers culminated in the 1988 season, which I anticipated more than other seasons for for some reason. The Dodgers were coming off a losing campaign in 1987, but something seemed different about the new year. Maybe it was the energy Gibson brought, which the whole eye black practical joke that went horribly wrong, but when Steve Sax hit the first pitch of the year out for a home run against Dave Dravecky of the Giants, it seemed like an omen.

   As I went of to college my interest waned. I moved on to other things, and to me the game seemed to have changed. I couldn’t relate as much to a game that was driven less by pitching and fundamentals and more by hulking body builders hitting video game home runs. I suppose Kershaw brought me back to the game.

   I enjoyed reading the stories of the readers here. A lot of longtime fans and people of just a different generation. I appreciate the the things here that folks are grateful for and, although personally agnostic, I’m almost a little moved by the devotion many here have for their faith and their own personal stories.

   1. Mornin Patch. Hope you had a great day yesterday. I got to visit with some friends and catch up on the NCIS episode I missed. The thing about the folks on this site is that we are so diversified. And not everyone is a SoCal native. Some were born in Brooklyn and grew up watching guys I only read about and saw rarely on TV, Campy, Reese, Robbie. Others I got to see when the team came to LA, Duke and Gil, and Furillo. We have a guy who lives in Jolly Old England, and another who resides in the Netherlands….Holland to some of us. I even think one of the posters lives in Nova Scotia if memory serves. Most of my stories I do relate to the history of the team. That is where my main interest is. I leave the analysis to guys who are really into that. And they do a great job. I felt different about 88 too simply because I knew what a passionate guy Gibson was and his attitude transformed that clubhouse. He played so hard, the others must have felt a little guilty if they did not play exactly the same way. But every year brings new hope. I also remember a spring when their chances were dashed by a severe injury to Pedro Guerrero. I really miss the box scores. I can read them online now, and usually within minutes of the game ending instead of waiting until the paper came out in the morning. Like the Examiner better than the Times. I loved Bud Furillo. Reading them over breakfast and coffee was the way I started most of my days. Now breakfast is a lot simpler simply because I am retired and can eat more leisurely since I am not on the clock. And there is a lot less of it since at my age you have to watch those calories a little more. But I value the contributions made by all of the posters. Those who post a lot, and those who occasionally chime in. Yesterday’s posts were for many, from their hearts. We all have different beliefs. Some are more religious than others. In my family my foster sister has the most faith of anyone else I can think of. She lives her life with a deep seated faith that I admire, but do not have myself. I have seen to much, been through too much, and basically I did it on my own with no help from any form of religion. Not sure what I really believe in actually. But the time will come soon enough when I will have to resolve that issue too. Have a wonderful rest of the weekend Patch. I will be working on a article I hope all will find interesting.

   2. Dodgerpatch,life can be unbelievably unfortunate,but I have my peace in Christ that carries me.He tells me I am worthy of his love ,that covers all of our sins.You can have that piece too.

2. Here’s the AF play: give JT a three-year deal to spread out the total $. AAV is lowered and he can Utley or Freese after a couple years.

   1. I think that is a likely scenario. Perhaps a 2 year deal with third year option that vests based number of games played/plate appearances/etc. My concern is that some team will step up and overpay — the Atlanta Braves for example with Anthopoulos taking a Dodgers asset away while filling a big need for Braves.

3. I’m 65 years old but still remember when collecting baseball cards as a kid, I would keep getting 6,7,8 cards of the same obscure guy. That card for me was Don LeJohn, 3B, Dodgers. Still to this day don’t recall ever seeing him play. Just remember his baseball card. I’m sure more than one of his cards ended up on a clothes pin on my bicycle.

   Thanks for the memories Jeff.

   Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

   1. Mornin JR. I still collect them. Not like I used to, but I do have the completer set of Dodgers that were issued in 1959. And they are originals, not reprints. Ducky LeJohn. Remember him well. Myself, I always found it hard to get Dodgers when I bought the cards. Now you can go online and order the team set and have them all. A lot different. But I do remember when I was getting cards in 59 that I seemed to get Dick Gray and Jim Baxes a lot. And it was hard getting the stars. Wally Moon did not come out until the 7th series which was early September, so they were only for sale for a couple of weeks. Made it really hard to collect the entire set, and the fact that 50 cents got you 10 packs and there was no way you were completing your set that way. I got my first 59 Koufax simply because I saw a pack of cards that were in clear packing. You could get a pack of 30 for 10 cents, and I saw Sandy in one of the packs so I got it. And they never issued a Wills. In fact Wills did not appear on a Topps card as a Dodger until after he came back to LA from Montreal. He had not signed a contract with Topps. My first Wills card was one I got in a bag of Bell Brand Potato chips. If you wiggled the bag around enough you could see what player was in there. Yesterday on Ebay, I got a 50 card lot of Dodgers. It has Betts, Busch’s rookie, Lux and many others from different years. I will be excited to see who else is in there. The upside? None of that stale ass gum!

4. Not a Jim Bowden fan in the slightest, so have zero trust in his projections. Friedman does a marvelous job of controlling internal information. I suspect the only Dodgers ‘leaks’ are those that are intentionally disclosed to mislead, make informal inquiries, test the waters, or other similar purposes. Regarding Arenado, it is hard to see how the Dodgers would take on $199 million contract obligation with contract extensions to be negotiated with Seager, Kershaw, Buehler, Bellinger, and possibly Urias over the next few years. And the Rockies are not going to pay any portion of the remaining contract, especially to the Dodgers.

   1. Snell is more likely.

      1. I would doubt that. Snell is going to be very expensive in the form of what goes back to Tampa, and AF is not likely to give up that much talent. I have seen some of the projected suitors and what would be going the other way. Also, Starting pitching is not the glaring need. Although if you got someone like Snell, Urias or Gonsolin could go to the pen full time. The bullpen is the need along with RH power. We can all speculate, but we are all in the same boat as we will just have to sit and watch as it all plays out. Arozarena released from Mexican jail. His exe decided to not press charges. He is still being investigated by MLB.

         1. Snell will soon be earning over $11M after arbitration and that would be a major chunk of the Rays payroll. I’d like to see the Angels get him.

            1. He has 3 years 39 million left on his deal. He is not arbitration eligible, they bought that out.

            2. Rays have a $51M total adjusted payroll and Snell is a little over 25% of it. That is not a Rays type of player. They want players like the Dodgers Ruiz and May. Dodgers might trade Gonsolin and Ruiz for Snell. It’s not like Friedman doesn’t take on injury risk players.

         2. If the Dodgers think about getting another ace for the rotation it should be Bauer for a one year contract as he prefers.
            would cost more dollars than Snell but no prospects.
            No way I would give up May in any deal. He has next Dodgers ace written all over him plus he is under control for years to come.
            AF most likely will get a bullpen arm or two and maybe look into a trade for Bryant with the Cubs . With Bryant he fills two holes: Big right handed bat and 3b.
            If the NL implements the DH he will resign JT .

            Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!

   2. If Colorado wants to trade Arenado they probably will have to keep some of his payroll and the more they keep the better the pieces they will want back.

      Lets say Friedman would be willing to trade for Arenado if the Dodgers only have to pay half his salary, like the trade for Price with Boston.

      What would they have to give up?
      Who else could the Dodgers trade for using those same players?

      I don’t know but Colorado always needs pitching.
      I’ll start with Rios to replace Arenado at third and then add May. Maybe May has too much movement on his fastball and the Colorado air might help him.

   3. Would Colorado be better off with May and Rios and half of Arenado’s salary and would the Dodgers be worse with Arenado, half his salary, and no May or Rios? If yes, why wouldn’t Colorado make that trade?

      1. I don’t see the Rockies paying any of Arenado’s salary to play for Division rival Dodgers. They would be more likely to pay some of the contract to get a good return from teams like the Atlanta Braves, or St. Louis Cardinals.

   4. I agree with you about Bowden SoCalBum. He may have been a somewhat successful GM with Cincinnati, but as a writer (?) for the Athletic he is not very good. His analysis seems to be based on little fact or research. He’s an example of a writer who is looking for clicks instead of good, well thought out journalism. His projections many times don’t make much sense, especially, from a former GM (albeit 20+ years ago). His sources don’t seem to valid. Like hearing Arenado trade scenario from a Dodger insider. As Jeff said, very doubtful. Like I mentioned yesterday LADT writers far outshine anything Jim Bowden usually produces.

5. Excellent write-up, Jeff. Nice review of Dodger third base history in LA.

   I’m a big fan of stability. My favorite era of LA baseball was the early 70s into the 80s when the infield was set with Ron Cey, Bill Russell, Davy Lopes and Steve Garvey. You could identify with those players, something special like the Brooklyn Dodgers in the 1950s.

   The biggest mistake the Dodgers made during Frank McCourt’s tenure was allowing Adrian Beltre to leave when he wanted to stay in LA. He would have been the Dodgers third baseman for many years. Instead we had a revolving door of fill-ins and suspects until Justin Turner arrived. He wasn’t, of course, a pure third baseman, more of a versatile player who could play second, some short or first.

   A lot of people spend time looking at age and physical decline, but it probably has more to do with mental decline. Hard to keep up with the grind as you get up in your 30s. Some players have mentioned that.

   Turner looks like a player who could sustain more than most. Just really seems to enjoy the game, is a grinder by nature. Doesn’t take success for granted. So, I think a two year deal makes sense and I would hope after that we can develop a new third baseman from our farm system, just like the Dodgers did with Cey and Beltre.

   So what was Justin and his wife doing the past few days, helping out in the community. We simply can’t lose that kind of player, one who hit over .300, comes up big in the playoffs, is a proven team leader.

   Yes Nolan Arenado is younger, better defensively, but outrageously costly, especially if the Rockies actually opted to trade him to their arch rivals — just can’t see that happening.

   Unless a team decides to carry a massive payroll, north of $300 million, there is simply no way to have all top of their game elite players at every position. Even then, it probably wouldn’t work.

   At this point, an infield of Turner, Corey Seager, Gavin Lux and Max Muncy with Chris Taylor playing where needed looks pretty good.

   We need to focus on bullpen, always a tricky area. The starting staff appears deep and the quality is exceptional, depending on what David Price brings to the table.

6. Some continue to mention South California players coming home to play for the Dodgers and how they would flourish. It doesn’t always work out that way. Remember Daryl Strawberry?

   1. Eric Davis??

      1. ED was all class; Daryl was a low-life.

         1. ED may have been class, but he was a bust in LA. Past his prime. Daryl was younger, but the drug use ruined him.

         2. ED may have been all class, but he did not play well as a Dodger. He left his greatness in Cincinnati.

            Daryl Strawberry has addiction problems that emanated from the abuse he received as a child. I know what that is like, but I turned to religion. I was lucky, but the scars will always be there. I reserve low-life to those who beat up on others, not themselves. Someone say like Roberto Osuna.

            1. He made some offensive comments about Los Angeles post-riots so f him.

7. Wow, AC. I do not know where to start. You mentioned so many of my favorite players, Cey, Hatcher, Guerrero, Garciaparra, Madlock, Garvey, among others. I also loved the versatility of Lee Lacy. I liked Pete Guerrero so much, I named my parrot after him. The names “Grabs and Suds” intrigue me. Along with you, my favorite non-Dodger third baseman is Brooks Robinson. Maybe it is because I watched him play for the Vancouver Mounties as a young tomboy girl. What a list you accumulated. Thank you.

   PS. By any and all means, please AF, resign Justin Turner. The team will not be the same without him.

   1. I agree DBM. I think the vast majority of Dodger fans want JT to sign for 2 years and remain in the organization even past his playing days. He seems like management material to me.
      I think a league decision on use of the DH for next season is critical for AF to decide the construction of the team and use of JT. With no DH, JT and Rios could platoon at 3rd. Or AF might skip signing JT and use young talent to trade for an everyday 3rd baseman.
      With a DH, JT signs and assumes that role and platoons with Rios and at 3rd and DH, OR opens up a Rios trade potential for an everyday 3rd baseman with JT in the line up at DH.
      So, until we know about the DH, JT’s future is less assured and influences AF’s decisions.
      Wasn’t here a deadline for that decision to be made? I think the DH continues as players and managers seem to favor it. But it’s hard to base your roster on what you think might happen. What’s the hold up?

   2. Suds was more of a utility guy. Had some talent though He only had one year in LA where he played more than 100 games in LA, 1969. He hit 14 homers that season. He also hit 14 the next year but only played in 82 games. As for Grabs, Billy Grabarkewitz, He also only had one season of over 100 games in LA. Did pretty well, but he was more of a SS. Traded with Robinson, Singer, Mike Strahler, and Bobby Valentine to the Angels for McMullen and Andy Messersmith.

      1. Thanks for that info on Suds, Bear. Good memory. And, Phil, I think you are right about the DH and Turner. Value both of you guys’ opinions.

         1. If my memory is not too faulty, and sometimes it is, Suds wore # 14. Just like Hodges…

8. If you trade for Arenado and sign Buehler,Bellinger,Seager ,urias and Betts contract,you will have very little money in 4 to 5 years to sign young studs.The May,Rios,Smith,Lux,Graterol,Gonsolin kids will end up going somewhere else,because we won’t pay them all.The tax rule will eat us up.I would love to see a article that estimate the contracts and players for the next 5years.

9. Great article with incredible research. Thanks for doing that. I being a LA Dodger fan from the beginning reading about all the 3Bs they’ve used over the years brought back many memories. There were just a few I didn’t remember.
   It will be interesting to see how things shake out in 2021 as to who ends up at 3B for the Dodgers.

   1. To be honest, the name that excites me is Kim.

      Lots of possibilities there and no prospect cost.

      Financials on Nolan are tricky.

      1. There was word out this morning that the Rangers are interested in Kim. I’m sure they’re just one of many. He can play three positions, steal bases, doesn’t strike out much and is 25 years old. Has hit very well in the Korean league but, of course, you never know how that will translate to MLB.

         MLBTR, when they did their analysis of signing amounts thought Kim would sign for about 5/40. I guess it all depends on what AF’s scouting department thinks about him first of all and if they are interested, does he seem a better alternative than other free agents or trades out there, or internal prospects. As you said, no prospect cost to sign him. That means you can use those prospects in other trades.

         1. I think Kim could be at the top of the Dodgers free agent list (position players). The team does not have a ready-now, or close to ready shortstop in the organization with the reported skills of Kim, including gold glove quality defense at shortstop. Both Seager and Taylor are free agents after 2021, and Kiké is a free agent now. Kim would be an ideal backup, and if Seager re-signs then Dodgers use him at second base. Lux could either move to the OF, or used in a trade.

            1. I agree Kim would fit with the Dodgers, and that AF will certainly get in on the discussion. Kim is a better defensive SS than is Lux, and would be a good backup if AF cannot extend Seager. He is RH and can play 3B to replace JT if he decides to sign elsewhere. He can play 2B if JT re-signs with LAD. I still believe he is more likely to end up with the Rangers.

               Often times signing that FA opens up for other moves, like you mentioned Lux in a trade. Edwin Rios also becomes more available. Kim is a year and a half younger than Rios, and only two years older than Lux. Kim is a RH bat with power and bat to ball skills. Can he handle the pressure of LA? Without fans in the stands, he has a better chance to start. He is five years younger and $150MM less cost than Arenado. There is so much to like with a low risk high reward signing of Ha-Seong Kim.

               His posting lasts until Christmas, so there is now less than a month for Kim to sign. I still think he is the Rangers to lose.

            2. Seager is not a chess piece that you move around the board as you see fit. Now it’s 2nd in addition to 3rd and 1st? There is no way he plays on the right side and should move to 3rd only if he agrees to the move, I suggested right after the season ended that AF have that conversation with Cory about his desire to stay at short. I would guess that this likely has happened. So what’s the beef with Seager’s performance at short. I’ve seen the metics that are supposed tp prove he’s inadequate defensively. Is it range? Range has been redefined due to all the shifting. I don’t see him losing us any games with errors. I don’t think some of the Dodger Nation appreciates what we have. Leave him alone at short. There are other more pressing needs.

            3. Philjones – I see how my comment was misleading. No, I would not move Seager — if he signs an extension he is the SS with Kim at 2b, or possibly 3b. Signing Kim gives the Dodgers a backup option should Seager leave via free agency after the 2021 season.

            4. I got it now SCB. My confusion was the “him” and “Kim”. Those object pronouns can be confusing. “If Seager re-signs then the Dodgers use him (Kim) at 2nd.” My bad. I think I just instantly overreact to moving players around, Seager in particular.

            5. Philjones – it was all on me — My Bad. I am 100% in Seager’s corner as the Dodgers SS, now and future

         2. The big money is on the Rangers. The word is that Kim would fit best on a team in a rebuild. Texas has decent $$$, and Jon Daniels is always looking to improve. I think Kim makes sense for Texas. No pressure, and can become the future face of the team. The new Shin-Soo Choo. Rangers fans took to their last Korean ballplayer very well. I am sure that has not gone unnoticed by Kim.

            1. Will Jeter and Ng have a say on Kim?

            2. I think so, but I have not heard his name connected with Miami. His price is not out of line. But I think they are probably okay with Jon Berti at 2B, Brian Anderson at 3B, and Jazz Chisholm at SS, and save their money on OF and pitching.

10. This day in Dodger history. 1953, Roy Campanella with a .312, 41, 142 slash line wins the NL MVP for the second time. 1956, Don Newcombe, 27-7, 3.06 ERA, wins the inaugural Cy Young Award. It is given to only to one pitcher from both leagues until 1967 which makes Koufax’s 3 Cy Youngs much more impressive than Kershaws. 1967, the Mets complete a deal with the Senators to bring former Dodger Gil Hodges to NY to manage. He had one year left on his deal and the Mets sent 100,000 dollars and a minor league pitcher to DC. 1991. Former Dodger 1st baseman, Eddie Murray agrees to a 2 year 7.6 million dollar deal with the Mets. Murray had spent the previous 3 seasons in LA after being traded from Baltimore.

11. To all the contributors and Mark – THANK YOU!!
    This is my first post although I have been reading it for 5+ years.
    I really enjoy the back-n-forth dialogue and that we keep the politics out of it.
    The Dodgers are our bond no matter what our personal and political thoughts are.
    I am a true believer that we have way more in common than what separates us (i.e. families, living in a country that if you work hard you can be successful no matter you background).
    Overall, everybody is respectful and cordial to one another – which is how it should be.
    I find humor that sometimes somebody makes a post just to get a rise out of another individual – (most family get togethers always that going to some degree or another), and watching how the individual handles the situation.
    Anyway this website is a great break from the daily grind that we call life – and again while I might not post, I really appreciate the time and effort of Mark and the individual contributors.

12. You outdid yourself AC. I’m not as old as most on this site. My first real Dodgers memory was watching them play in the ’74 World Series. I had just turned 7 at the time and I signed up for my first year of League the next Spring. I grew up watching The Infield, Dusty, Smith, Yeager and other who weren’t there quite as long. My favorite player was Ron Cey, hence the ode to “The Penguin” in my handle.

    What really caught my eye was all the names of the third baseman that came in a didn’t live up to expectations. Ventura, Matlock, Cabell, Zeile, Wallach. I was so excited to get all those guys, but none of them ever came close to their best years. I also found it interested that so many retired at age 35, 36 and 37.

    This makes me think even more about moving on from Justin and it just reinforced my position all along. I understand the payroll problems, but I really don’t think the Dodgers are tied to number. I point to this group’s payroll high of $278 Million as the main reason that I take this position.

    Clearly the best fix would be to trade for Arenado. This is no easy task since the Rockies aren’t going to want to watch Nolan beat them into submission for the next 5 years. But, I also don’t think this is impossible either. Next best is to plug in Kris Bryant. Probably easier to trade for and I’m not overly worried about COVID related statistical outliers. But, these are just the beginning of options, probably too many to fully understand as we have no idea who AF is talking to. I do believe that AF will plug that hole with someone. It may not be a 3rd baseman, but 3rd base makes the most sense.

    DMB, I also had a parrot named after one of my favorite Dodgers. “He” was a Blue and Gold Macaw and I named “him” Mondesi. I later found out “he” was a “she” when she laid an egg.

    1. That is funny BulldogsandPeguins. I also liked Mondesi. Didn’t he win a ROY? Your story reminds me of the time my daughter asked for a hamster. She found two and couldn’t decide so I bought both of them and she named them Starsky and Hutch after my favorite tv show. The pet store swore they were both males but 2 weeks after we got them, Starsky had 13 baby hamsters.

       1. lol – Yep, there’s a lot of pets where you just don’t know.

          1. Mark lays an egg in here all the time, nobody thinks he’s female.

             If Friedman wants Arenado it will happen.

             I’m still full. More mashed potatoes and gravy tonight. I had the apple crumb cake twice today. Mixed it with oatmeal for breakfast then had it again tonight. Yoiks.

             I read a fascinating piece yesterday regarding the historical inaccuracies we’ve all grown up with regarding Thanksgiving. I’ll spare the details other than to say Lincoln made it a holiday in 1863 and the Mashpee Wampanoag Indians have a different take on that little get together back in the early 1600s.

             And now we prep for Christmas.

             1. Your diet is frightening. I had a turkey sandwich and some cranberry sauce. And of course some pumpkin pie,

       2. DBM, Mondesi was part of the run of 5 ROY’s in a row. Karros, Piazza, Mondesi, Nomo and Hollandsworth. They also had a run of 4 in a row starting in 79, Sutcliffe, Howe, Valenzuela, Sax. My foster father had a cockatiel he named Humphrey. Bird finally laid an egg, so he became Humphrina. Not easy to tell the sex of some species.Some players beating the rush and signing in Japan. A couple of pitchers did that. Not only are the Phillies interested in Jeff Kingston for their GM position, there is now news they are very interested in Josh Brynes.

13. There are a lot of suggestions on what trades the Dodgers should make or should not make. It’s very interesting reading all the opinions. I’m not going to propose any trades. My main concern is that they are able to keep Seager here for many years to come.

    Bear mentioned earlier how he used to look forward to reading the box scores every morning back in the good old days. I’ve lived in Jersey all my life so I had to wait for the evening paper to read the box scores after the Dodgers moved west. It was frustrating. I was jealous of my buddy (a Giants fan). A sports announcer named Les Keiter used to re-create the Giants games on a NY radio station. He would read the teletype and then “announce” the game in his studio. He would have sound effects like the roar of the crowd or the crack of the bat. So I was able to hear the Dodgers when they played the Giants. I also found that with some very fine tuning on the radio I could pick up the Phillies, Pirates and on some occasions the Reds games. It was tough being a Dodgers fan back then after they left Brooklyn. Of course now, thanks to computers, I can get those box scores quicker than ever before.

    1. Surprised you could not pick up the Cardinals station. It was pretty powerful.

14. I just can’t see AF taking the plunge on Arenado. His contract is too burdensome and there are questions about how he would hit at Dodger Stadium. I am still betting that the NL will have a DH this year, and the Dodgers will sign JT. This would give Rios plenty of playing time and pave the way for Cody Hoese in 2022.

    I am surprised by how little we’re discussing Gavin Lux. He seemed to be “The One!” All of the talk about being a ROY candidate may have messed with his head. Rarely have I seen someone flare out so quickly who seemed to have such potential. Yes, it was a weird season. Yes, he developed the yips (maybe). But still, what happens next? He bounces back and takes over at 2B? He gets traded in a blockbuster with Tampa Bay for Blake Snell? Who knows?

    1. Actually with all the payroll coming off of the books after next season, it is not that huge a stretch that they would consider it. They might wait for him to opt out, which is pretty much considered a given here in Colorado. There is just too much discord between him and management.

15. If he opts out, does Colorado get compensation? And doesn’t the opt out clause only going into effect at the end of 2021?

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