Things That Make You Go Hmmm – July 5 Edition

The Los Angeles Dodgers have reported to Dodger Stadium; or at least some of them have.  There are some who have apparently tested positive for the coronavirus, while others (so far only David Price) has opted to sit out the 2020 season.  I am perfectly comfortable with any player or management personnel deciding that it is in their best interests to opt out for the season.  I just hope that the respect is reciprocal when it comes to those who choose to play.  I know some see it as selfish.  I do not.  Some choose to “risk” (whatever level of risk that may be) to move forward, while others seem angry that some people are not taking the risk seriously and are threatening others.  I read one blog response that these players are putting millions of lives at risk.  A little hyperbolic don’t you think?

With respect to David Price opting out, here is how the Dodgers have responded:

“The Dodgers fully support David’s decision to sit out the 2020 season. We have been in constant contact with David and we understand how much this deliberation weighed on him and his family. We know he’ll be rooting hard for the club every day and look forward to having him back with us in 2021.”

Apparently Clayton Kershaw, Alex Wood, and Ross Stripling have been ramping up and have each pitched three innings of simulated games.  Kershaw has said that he is in Mid-March form and expects to be at 100 pitches by July 23/34.  Kersh says he feels strong and is ready to take on the league.  With Price opting out, I am going with Strip making the initial 5 man rotation.  Some will go with May and some will go with Nelson and some will go with Gonsolin.  But IMO, Strip has earned that spot.

Kersh said he and his teammates will be ready, but also recognizes that they have a huuuuuuge responsibility to act responsibly.  Per an Athletic article,

“Kasten said veteran players’ delivery of that message would be of more importance to young players than his own, or Roberts’ or president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman’s.”

Kershaw, the longest tenured Dodger, indicated he did not think many messages would be necessary.

“I don’t know how much different guys have to harp on that,” he said. “Because if you want to see the season through, if you want to play the season, if you want to give it its best shot, you can’t be stupid.”

The Dodgers are not the only team stressing responsibility and professionalism with respect to the 2020 season.  Angels manager Joe Maddon had a call with 120 members of the Angels organization Thursday night stressing the importance of everyone staying responsible.

“Every organization really needs to tighten up their bubble,’’ Maddon says, “and that’s what we’re trying to do. We’re asking you to be the best version of yourself and be the best teammate you’ve ever been in your life. We need you to follow the protocols and for you to be the best teammate ever.’’

Other responses in the league include Rangers manager Chris Woodward who said that every team is going to have positive cases, but the key is to minimize all contact. The Boston Red Sox even used suites at Fenway Park for their players to dress in hoping to maintain social distancing.

“We’re not going to be able to go out to bars,’’ Chicago Cubs manager David Ross said “That puts your teammates at risk. That puts family members at risk. We have high-risk teammates. We have high-risk family members at home. That would be an extremely selfish move on their part.’’

MLB has just completed 3,185 tests on players and staff.  31 players (19 teams) and 7 staff tested positive, and must now enter specific COVID-19 protocols before they can rejoin their teams.  MLB will not release the names of those that tested positive, but players can identify if they so choose.  Approximately 1.2% of those tested, tested positive.  Many of those are asymptomatic while others have mild symptoms.  There is no indication that anyone tested is hospitalized.  To be fair, there is no contrary indication.  IMO this is something that should be considered a positive.  Only 1.2% of 3,185 tests.  With 60 man pools, and players acting professionally and responsibly, 60 games is certainly attainable.  I know there are those out there who expect there to be zero cases and a vaccine before they should be allowed to play.  I am not one of them.  Some who have tested positive and have announced:

  • NYY – DJ LeMahieu and Luis Cessa.  DJLM is asymptomatic and Cessa has very mild symptoms.
  • Phillies – Have probably been hit the hardest:  Aaron Nola, Adam Haseley, Christian Bethancourt, Scott Kingery, Hector Neris, Tommy Hunter, and Ranger Suarez.  I am unsure if the last four were known before the 3,185 tests.
  • Indians – Delino DeShields Jr.
  • Rangers – Brett Martin
  • Boston – Darwinzon Hernandez and Josh Taylor
  • Twins – Miguel Sano and Willians Astudillo
  • Royals – Salvador Perez
  • Braves – Freddie Freeman, Pete Kozma, Touki Toussant (asymptomatic) and Will Smith (asymptomatic).
  • Giants – Luis Madero and Hunter Bishop
  • Padres – Tommy Pham
  • Cardinals – Genesis Cabrera and Ricardo Sanchez

The Dodgers have acknowledged that they do have players who have tested positive, but no names were disclosed. Doc Roberts has also indicated that management is still speaking with players who are considering opting out, but no names were mentioned.

One other negative outcome to the pandemic is the number of MiLB players who have been released.  Many teams released players early, while the Dodgers held out until July 1 when 25 players were released.

  • RHP Kieran Lovegrove
  • RHP Tyler Ferguson
  • RHP Ricky Knapp
  • LHP Casey Crosby
  • LHP Ben Holmes
  • C Jose Lobaton
  • C Hamlet Marte
  • INF Jake Peter
  • 3B Eric Peterson
  • OF Blake Gailen
  • OF Starling Heredia
  • RHP Yeison Cespedes
  • RHP Chris Mathewson
  • RHP Jeronimo Castro
  • RHP Bradley Gonzales
  • RHP Riley Ottesen
  • LHP Austin Hamilton
  • LHP Igor Avila
  • C Ramon Rodriguez
  • C Cesar Mendoza
  • C Tyler Ryan
  • 2B Aldo Espinoza
  • OF Jaime Perez
  • OF Rolando Lebron
  • OF Jeremiah Vison

Most of those players were always considered organizational depth, and without a MiLB season, they are certainly not needed.  Not one of the above is considered a real prospect, but sometimes someone from a group such as this will get noticed. At least some of these guys might be able to latch onto one of the 60 man rosters of teams without the superior depth of the Dodgers.

What surprised me was the release of five catchers, including 21 year old Ramon Rodriguez.  I thought he had a future as a potential backup.  But apparently not with the Dodgers.  MiLB Catchers now include:

  • OKC – Keibert Ruiz and Rocky Gale
  • Tulsa – Stevie Berman
  • Rancho – Hunter Feduccia and Tre Todd
  • Great Lakes – Gersel Pitre
  • Ogden – Wladimer Chalo and Marco Hernandez

Diego Cartaya is not currently assigned to any affiliate. How he performs this year in the pool alternate site will go a long way to indicate the level he will play at next year.  I would expect that he might start at Rancho and move up to Tulsa in the summer. There were some catchers in the DSL that will be able to fill some spots, and next year, the organization will find some quality backups. It is also possible that LAD will re-sign Rodriguez.

Of those released, the one I feel the most for is 35 year old OF Blake Gailen. He was an undrafted free agent college senior at UNLV who signed with an Indy team in 2007.  Blake has played MiLB and Indy ball since 2007 and has never been called up to a MLB team.  He is now 35, and his chances of realizing that dream are quickly being extinguished. 

With the addition of Devin Mann, the Dodgers now have 52 players on the 60 man pool:  RHP (21), LHP (7), C (5), INF (10), and OF (9)

RHP (21) LHP (7)Catchers (5)Infielders (10)Outfielders (9)
——————-——————-————–————————————
Pedro BaezScott AlexanderAustin BarnesMatt BeatyCody Bellinger
Walker BuehlerCaleb FergusonDiego CartayaOmar EstevezMookie Betts
Gerardo CarrilloVictor GonzalezRocky GaleEnrique HernandezJoc Pederson
Dylan FloroClayton KershawKeibert RuizGavin LuxDJ Peters
Tony GonsolinAdam KolarekWill SmithDevin MannA.J. Pollock
Brusdar GraterolJulio UriasZach McKinstryLuke Raley
Josiah GrayAlex WoodMax MuncyZach Reks
Michael GroveEdwin RiosChris Taylor
Andre JacksonCorey SeagerCody Thomas
Kenley JansenJustin Turner
Marshall Kasowski
Joe Kelly
Dustin May
Jimmy Nelson
AJ Ramos
Dennis Santana
Josh Sborz
Ross Stripling
Blake Treinen
Edwin Uceta
Mitchell White

Currently 39 of the 40 man are included, eight top 30 prospects, and five MiLB non top 30 prospects. The team is being non-committal about who might be the remaining 9 players.  Doc and AF were being forthright in saying that they do not have 60 MLB ready players that can help them win, so they will undoubtedly balance it out with some prospects not ready for prime-time. 

I mentioned early on that I believed that Michael Grove would be on the list, and I was pleased to see him so named.  He is one that is not ready to get MLB batters out, but he needs this time to continue his development.  Dodger player development personnel believe he has the potential of mid-top rotation starter.  I was certainly surprised to see Andre Jackson and Edwin Uceta named to the pool over Brett de Geus.  But I fully expect to see de Geus be named be included in the 60 man pool.  I also will be extremely surprised if Kody Hoese and Michael Busch are not named.  That would leave six open spots and some of the names I would consider are:

  • Bobby Miller (RHP)
  • Landon Knack (RHP)
  • Gavin Stone (RHP)
  • Clayton Beeter (RHP) (if signed)
  • Jacob Amaya (SS/2B)
  • Miguel Vargas (3B)
  • Luis Rodriguez (OF)
  • Andy Pages (OF)
  • Alex De Jesus (SS/3B)

I have no idea how difficult it would be to get work Visas for those in Central and South America, but I sure would like to see Vargas, Rodriguez, Pages, and De Jesus in US camps this year where they can be monitored.  AF was non-committal about whether there would be some MiLB development site for some of the non 60-man pool players to continue with their development (formally or informally). We will need to wait and see how this works out.

LAD intrasquad games are scheduled for next week.

This article has 59 Comments

  1. I didn’t know that David Price had opted out. That’s a shame because we all were looking forward to see what he could do this year. Oh well, I guess we’ll have to wait until ST 2021. Honestly, I still don’t think that there will be a season as planned for this year. I hope I’m wrong. We’ll just have to wait and see.

    1. I agree, I don’t think Newsom will allow any type of restart in all sports, pro, college, HS, or below in the state. Too much politics, too much politics.

        1. Really. You do not think politics has anything to do with this? Wineries are shut down all through the state EXCEPT for Napa where Newsome has four wineries. Yes, after that became known, the family shut down PlumpJack Winery due to “logistic reasons”, but plan on re-opening on Tuesday while all other wineries are shut down for at least three weeks. Nothing about his other three Napa wineries. They were presumed to be open over the holiday weekend. Surprisingly, the very “balanced” press chose not to pursue this matter any further. No LA Times or SF Chronicle OP ED pieces. But it is not political.

          Newsome has said that singing and chanting are now forbidden in churches. A place of worship that already has limited the number of parishioners who can congregate, who must practice social distancing, and are required to wear masks, but Antifa and BLM protests in front of LA City Hall with no social distancing and where masks are not required is totally acceptable.

          You are right, there is nothing political about this at all. Or maybe the Truth does Hurt.

          1. Umm, the VAST majority of those who protested with BLM, or “Antifa”, were actually smart enough to wear masks.

            Nice try at “not” being political there.

          2. AC, since all I said was there too much Covid, your response seems to indicate you think it is a hoax, that it should be ignored so it can disappear on its own. You didn’t say that but implied it, IMHO.

          3. Bobby and you know that the “VAST majority of those who protested with BLM, or “Antifa”, were actually smart enough to wear masks”, how? There were substantial news reports on television and in the print media that would suggest otherwise.

          4. There is a 19 times likelihood of contracting Covid-19 indoors. Singing is a great way to project droplets and aerosol throughout an indoor space. Do you really think it’s a good idea to have normal church services?

            Without knowing all the details, why wouldn’t all wineries be closed? If just ones in Napa are open, I’m sure they are owned by both Republican and Democrat leaning people. Does money talk?

            Everyone who is out in public spaces should be wearing a mask. I don’t care what you are protesting for or against, WEAR a mask doing it. If you don’t your a selfish person and you are stating that you could care less about your fellow Americans. Whatever happened to self sacrifice for the common good?

            For anyone who thinks this is all a joke/political I have to ask, How many deaths (or other metric that you may prefer) will make you think this is all just media driven?

          5. AC, please don’t add deceitful commentary. There are 58 counties and Newsome closed wineries and other gathering places in only 19 of the 58 counties. Napa has had low incidences of Covid cases and there are 30 counties with more cases.

          6. Everyone should wear a mask at all times, except when inside with family, or maybe hiking on a deserted trail. Every bit of evidence indicates that wearing masks is essential to deal with this deadly virus. I do not think that “Antifa,” whatever that is, exactly, in this country, and BLM are causing this spike, but I do think that they had damn well better wear masks; and I also think that bars and restaurants should be closed except for curbside pickup. Now, do note that New York, where there were many protests, and Michigan, where there were quite a few, have seen a notable decline in daily cases; whereas Texas, Florida and Arizona, where there were very few protests, are spiking out of control. Those are numbers. An argument that it is the protesters who are spiking the numbers in most of these Southern and Western states, seems to me to be based a lot more on politics than statistics. Again, though, all should wear masks, and be cited if they do not.

            There is a search for blame, and as unfortunately all things have become in this country, including such things as climate change and gun control, it is political. Those in nominal charge who want to somehow fob this horror off on something called Antifa, which began in France,and BLM, are doing it for political reasons. Blaming Fauci, which you specifically did not do here, also makes no logical sense, though he is not perfect, no one is. Trying not to say anything directly political, I will say that we had warning, we did not respond; we have the worst numbers in the world with regard to this virus, and while most of Europe and Asia eventually acted effectively to get some control, the United States tried to ignore this, pretend it would magically go away, hid the numbers in some states. And so now all the epidemiologists say that we are in a very bad situation. And still people go around and flaunt not wearing masks, or argue that somehow their rights as citizens include the “right” not to wear a mask if they don’t feel like it. That is like saying that you have the right to drive 90 mph on the city roads, and that if someone doesn’t like it, they should just get out of the way and not use the streets. It is utter selfishness and even sociopathy twisted into some kind of of constitutional argument.

            And so here we are. Newsom opened things up too early; he was facing great pressure from business people who were demanding openings, including one woman who has filed twelve lawsuits against him and the state for not opening as soon as she wanted. Newsom failed to stand up to that, but the state is going bankrupt because the federal government will not assist. So he was in a very difficult spot, but should have stood up, even though hordes of people would have screamed at him and tried to recall him, just like they were doing to Whitmer in Michigan, who would not relent, demanded social distancing be maintained, and has seen the numbers there drastically drop on a relative basis, where the rest of the country outside of NY and a few others, have skyrocketing numbers. At least he is trying to do something now, albeit weeks later than he should have. My last, and rhetorical, question would be, “Why does the United States have the worst numbers in the world with this; both in cases, increases, percentages of population? Why are many of the nations gaining some control over this, while our numbers are out of control? And why have the numbers gone up so drastically in the last month in many states. particularly in the South?”

          7. Well said Wiiiam.

            Wear masks.

            A simple fact check regarding Napa wineries will tell you what’s really going on. It has do with with virus numbers, not privately owned wineries by Democrats.

            Divided we fall folks.

            As for masks and protesters, once again it depends on where you get your information. The protests I witnessed I certainly saw with my own eyes MOST, but not ALL, of the protesters were wearing masks. I noticed a lot of cops weren’t. Most reports, including Forbes, the Times, the Post, Time, Magazine, Vox, Truthout and Truthdig, NPR, BBC, Slate, say the protests from BLM are not contributing to the spike, and it’s because most people are wearing masks. Fox says the opposite. I think it’s who you choose believe on this issue. Oh, and Antifa doesn’t cause coronavirus, but partying with white nationalists might.

            Beware the company you keep. And don’t forget to ram the ramparts.

          8. I agree with Badger. My family marched in the Chicago area, and I don’t recall encountering a single person without a mask. And folks were taking social distancing seriously too. Of course, my observations don’t mean this was the case everywhere, but this was my experience.

          9. The virus is everywhere, JD. It’s not possible to pick and choose occasions where you feel it is safe to expose yourself without some protection. This goes doubly for older folks and the infirm. They have to protect themselves at all times, in all situations. If all people protected themselves, you would see a drop in infections. Since it is mostly the under 40’s that go without masks, they are usually strong enough to survive. Pro athletes, who are supposedly in ultra shape, have little risk in dying. Yes, they can be affected, but it is not reason enough, anymore, to shut everything down. Let the older ones hide, not the young and strong. They get sick and recover. That’s life, no?

  2. More optimistic myself. I think there will be baseball. Maybe not the entire 60 game schedule, but they would not have allowed them to practice at Dodger Stadium if they were going to shut it all down. Turner all for piping in crowd noise. He said in an interview it was better than no sound at all and it got his adrenaline up. King Felix the latest to opt out. He had been having a resurgent spring with the Braves. Buster Posey is also considering not playing. Stripling goes from being traded, or almost traded to the #5 starter. That is quite a leap. I believe Pollock will probably opt to not play also. We probably will hear more after the holiday is over. Going to play music with my friends today. Have been looking forward to this for quite a while. Matt Kemp sure looks weird in a Rockies uni.

  3. A big season from Pages, Stripling, and Pederson would be fun for Dodger fans and painful for Angel fans. Works for me.

    1. I don’t know where Pages will be able to have a good year but I hope he gets to work on his development somewhere and somehow.

  4. I know he has not been released and is 25, but wondered about the status of Ryan Moseley, RHP.

    1. DBM – as far as I have been able to find out, he still is in the Dodger Organization. The last transaction I could find involving him was on 02/23/20, when he was “assigned” to the Los Angeles Dodgers. In transaction speak, I do not know what that means.

  5. For those of you that watched Joey Chestnut do his thing yesterday, here’s the nutritional data on the 74 hot dogs (with buns) that he consumed in 10 min:

    22,200 calories
    1702% of recommended daily value of TOTAL FAT
    2220% of recommended daily value of SATURATED FAT
    888% of recommended daily value of CHOLESTEROL
    2368% of recommended daily value of SODIUM
    814 grams of protein.

    My blood pressure rose just typing this

      1. My record at Dodger Stadium is 4 Dodger Dogs in 1 game. My blood pressure hated me for a week (if not more).

        1. I could eat a Dodger Dog right now. I could eat them in my Dodger seats that I got when they became available when DS replaced the original seats. Gold, #s 4 and 5.

        2. Ingredients of a hot dog: whatever hits the floor in the slaughterhouse. It’s called pink slime and meat slurry. They scrape it up then pour a bunch of sodium nitrates on it so it doesn’t kill you – right away. That takes a few years.

          I actually watched them do it in Nebraska. Football players had their choice of working the slaughterhouse, which was indoors, or the brickyard, which was outdoors. I took the brickyard. Cold as Canada, but was a great workout for linebackers.

          1. Badger, I forgot to mention, in my forever quest to get healthy, I decided to give a 6 week trial to a vegan diet.

            So far, I’m not noticing any added increase in energy or belly loss. I have, however, noticed my blood pressure is lower (which is probably the biggest win of all). I”m aiming towards not touching animal products thru July and see how it goes.

            I’m sure I’ll eventually add fish back into the diet and see how that goes. Either way, no Dodger Dogs anytime soon.

          2. Good for you Bobby. Your body will thank you, your karma will lighten, and the critters will be grateful.

  6. Why me??? I like talking Dodger baseball and of course bantering with M.J.T…
    Will we be able to watch games if not a member of Spectrum???

      1. Thanks for the invitation but will pass and try to limit my political comments on this blog although I did not think I said a lot of political stuff.

      2. Like DBM, I thank you for the invitation but I will also pass. Surely you’ve noticed that I don’t post too much on this site. I’m a two finger hunt and peck typist. It would take me 20 mins. to type what most people on this site could type in 3 or 4 minutes.

  7. Here in the Netherlands, and in Europe in general, the most notable things about Covid are 1) it’s not politicized, and 2) the numbers of cases and deaths are way,.way down. That’s not coincidental. Here, Covid is treated for what it is, namely, a public health problem, and not a bludgeon with which to beat the other side. As a result, there is a minimum of drama, and society can reach consensus. And consensus is based on following the best expert advice. Of course, experts aren’t perfect, and our understanding of Covid is still emerging as more and better research is conducted. However, there is social trust here. People here think of science as the objective pursuit of knowledge, not as something political. And based on the facts, in so far as they are obtainable, they take appropriate precautions. In other words, people here trust that the government is acting in the interests of the public, and that experts have no ulterior motive other than the public good. Here, the threat is taken calmly, seriously, and soberly. Is it too much to ask that our country does the same? It starts with us, with the kind of dialogue we have with each other.

    1. Well put,. The key point being “science is the objective pursuit of knowledge, not as something political“. That has always been my experience working with people both here and abroad.

  8. Bobby… I tried a little Vegan in between surgeries and the results could be measured by the AQMD of Orange County… Tremendous gaseous bouts that had my wife threatening to leave me… That being said I retired my Vegan pursuit…. Ya Know, I never a real good Vegan dish to speak of…
    The following would better be commented from folks in the Midwest or South….
    Been watching some odd sports on TV and ran into a beauty… American Corn hole lg.
    I recognize it to be a good game to drink to in the early days… Yep, if it goes professional
    I can see a corn holer H.O.F. based out of lets say Indy…

    1. haha. Yes, vegan diets, especially if they include lentils, legumes, etc, can definitely accentuate the gaseous bouts.

      The Lakers actually sent us a Lakers corn hole set once as a season ticket holder Xmas day gift. You’re right; it’s a good game if alcohol is involved.

    2. Never meant to be a dig Mark…
      Mea Culpa big guy and I never, repeat never cloak in public….

  9. I do all my political posting these days on facebook. A friend of mine opened a type of open forum for all political topics, and amazingly, it has been pretty civil in there. Here is for baseball. Posey thinking about opting out.

  10. Didn’t Posey just make a big deal about not being selfish? I must have misread it, I thought he was encouraging teammates to play, but be disciplined about not risking exposure.

    I lack reading comprehension skills I guess.

    When and where I grew up, I would have been instantly knocked to the ground by my mother if I had ever said “corn hole.” A couple years ago I moved from CA to TN, and they play the game at church gatherings. Oh my goodness. I’ve lived a sheltered life.

    1. I do not know what he said before, only what was posted yesterday. I think he has some young kids at home, and he has concerns. But him not playing weakens the Giants even more. Kenley Jansen is not at camp. No reason given. A friend of mine who lives in a senior center plays corn hole there. All it is is bean bag toss.

  11. I know we have a lot of music fans in here. For the next 3 hours, ESPN is showing the Eagles concerts from the Forum in LA from 2018, I believe.

    Enjoy!

    1. I played a couple of their songs yesterday at our jam. Peaceful Easy Feeling and Tequila Sunrise. I liked the original lineup best. They got a little more edgy when Joe Walsh joined them. He had been with The James Gang. Vince Gill has also toured with them. Wise choice. Great guitar player, and a awesome voice.

  12. When I was growing up corn hole had a completely different meaning.

    Watching the Dodgers Red Sox extra innings game.

    Just finished a three episode History Channel series on George Washington. Quite a story.

    How was camping Mark?

  13. Had a real good time at our pickin on the porch get together yesterday. Kept our distance and nobody was wearing a mask. Had 6 of us on the porch, so it was not crowded. About 10 people showed up to watch, main reason for that was the threat of rain. Well, y’all have a great day. I am heading to the lake in a little bit to dip a line.

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