MEET ROBBIE PETO

I confess that I have been suffering from COVID-19 and MLB/MLBPA fatigue over the past few weeks.   As Led Zeppelin would sing “Been dazed and confused . . . “   I can’t keep up with it all.  We’re going to play.  Nope, just kidding, we’re not going to play.  Wait a minute, it looks like we might play after all.  No, it’s not going to happen.  

Then you got the whole coronavirus discussion:   Trust the experts. No, no, not those experts.  Don’t trust anything the government and politicians tell you, unless of course they tell you something I agree with.  You should trust the statistics.   No, no not those statistics.    Wear masks, no, don’t wear masks.  If you wear masks wear masks, wear only good ones. Wait, don’t wear masks, but you can wear anything as a mask. Never mind on the masks.  You shouldn’t get within 6 feet of another person.   Definitely don’t participate in any protests.   Wait a minute, it’s okay to attend protests as long as it’s the right kind of protest.  It’s tiring and confusing.   Bewilderment has become the feeling of the day more often than not. 

With the prospects that baseball will not be played this season growing more and more likely with each passing day, it’s a struggle to find Dodger material to write about that is in any way positive.  Despite that, this blog is still a great place to hangout, whether for a few minutes or a few hours.   I’m biased, I know, but I believe that the baseball discussion here is far superior to that of any other like blog.   At times, it feels like we’re just a group of ol’ friends lounging in the backyard, over a bar b que, talking baseball, past memories, life at the beach, beets and other vegetables, time in the military or just whatever happened to get us on our journey from there to here.   As in any back yard gathering, we don’t always agree, nor do we have to.   I can think your opinion is “nutty”, at the same time offering to get you another drink, so we can talk some more.   Such is life in a family or community. 

Today, I’m feeling especially bewildered and had no desire to continue the on again off again negotiations between the owners and players.   So instead, let me introduce you to another young prospect recently added to the Dodger system.   Robbie Peto ( I love this guy just because we share the same name), who was signed by the Dodgers as an undrafted free agent.  Peto is a RHP from Stetson University who is, to date, the only player signed by the Dodgers as an undrafted free-agent.     

Robbie Peto was born on July 10, 1998, in New Brunswick, New Jersey.  He is the son of Michael and Nicolle Peto.   Peto, has a brother and a sister.   His grandfather, Walt Peto, played collegiate baseball at Seton Hall and reached the AAA level in the New York Yankees organization.  His father played collegiate baseball at Rutgers.   Robbie enjoys fishing and playing video games.   While at Stetson, he was a Communication and Media Studies major.

Peto played his high school ball at Monroe Township High School for coach Pat Geroni.   As a sophomore, Peto compiled a 5-1 record with a 2.27 ERA while averaging more than a strikeout per inning.  As a junior, Peto fanned 88 batters and walked 20 over 53 and a third innings. He posted a 5-3 record with a 1.57 ERA. He twice had no-hit bids ruined in the seventh inning and had to settle for one-hitters.  Then as a senior,  Peto had a 5-1 record with a 1.10 ERA. He struck out 79 batters and walked 19 over 51 innings.   Coming out of high school he was ranked as No. 2 right-handed pitcher and the No. 4 player overall in the state of New Jersey by Perfect Game.     He was also ranked No. 179 in Baseball America’s BA500 and No. 80 nationally by Perfect Game.    Peto was a 2016 Rawlings-Perfect Game All-American (second team) and a 2015 PG Underclass All-America (second team).   Peto was a two-time MVP of the Cal Ripken World Series and a three-time all-state selection.   He finished his prep career as the winningest pitcher in school history, with an overall 15-5 record.   He posted 182 strikeouts over 118.2 innings and threw three no-hitters.

Coming out of High School, Baseball America had this to say about Peto for the 2016 draft:

Peto came on strong early last summer, when he showed a promising three-pitch mix at the Perfect Game National Showcase in June. Shortly after that event, Peto committed to North Carolina. He would go on to pitch at a few more high profile events, establishing himself as one of the top prospects in the northeast. Peto’s fastball reaches into the low 90s and shows plus movement, with late sinking action. His best offspeed pitch is his changeup, which shows above-average potential. He also throws a breaking ball that sits in the upper 70s with slurvy shape, and the pitch could develop into a third average offering. Peto has the stuff to be a starter, but he has a somewhat long arm action and there’s effort in his delivery, leading some evaluators to question Peto’s ability to start long-term. He has a sturdy 6-foot-4 frame and could be an immediate contributor for the Tar Heels if he makes it to campus.

Robbie Peto had this to say about himself on a 2016 recruiting profile:

If I had to describe what makes me different than other players, I would say that baseball has been part of my family long before I was born.  My grandfather was a player in the Yankees organization and was a coach for over thirty years.  My father was coached by my grandfather and played baseball at the college level at Rutgers University. He has coached me since I was five years old.  These two men have influenced me both on and off the field.  They taught me the fundamentals of the sport and the way to behave both as a person and a player. I have learned that to be a good ball player, you need to know how to play the sport, but to be a great ball player, you have to know how to be a great person as well as ball player. 

Peto was drafted by the Angels coming out of Monroe High School in the 30th round.   He opted not to sign and instead went to North Carolina State, where he was in the same recruiting class as Michael Busch, the Dodger’s 2nd choice in last years’ draft.  Peto choose the Wolfpack over St. John’s and Wagner University.  Peto redshirted at Chapel Hill during the 2017 season.  He did not make an appearance for the Tar Heels in 2017, but did spend the summer with the Falmouth Commodores of the Cape Cod League making eight appearances over 22 innings.

After the 2017 season Peto, along with his best friend, Zach Attianese, another North Carolina State recruit from New Jersey, transferred to  State College of Florida.   Attianese, as I’ll share later, was a big reason for Peto signing with the Dodgers. 

As a redshirt freshman at the State College of Florida, Peto made 10 starts and posted a 3-2 record with a 5.23 ERA, while averaging 10.23 strikeouts per nine innings.  He recorded 47 strikeouts in 41.1 innings of work.   He also made the Dean’s List

Peto was eligible for the 2018 MLB draft.  This time Baseball America had him Ranked as the #441 prospect and had this to say about him: 

Peto was a highly regarded prep arm out of high school, but got to campus in Chapel Hill after the Dodgers(SIC) selected him in the 30th round of the 2016 draft. After not getting playing time at UNC, Peto transferred to State JC of Florida where he’s battled lower back issues and had less impressive stuff than previously advertised. Peto has thrown a fastball in the 90-94 range with exceptional riding life in the past, with a good breaking ball as well, but this spring he sat 90-91 with a well below-average breaking ball. He was also less than effective when he was healthy, posting a 5.23 ERA in 41.1 innings, striking out 47 batters (10.23 K/9) and walking 20 (4.35 BB/9). Peto is committed to Stetson and could take advantage of a program that has done a tremendous job developing pitchers to improve his draft stock next season. He’ll need to show he can stay healthy and get through a full season but the natural ability is still in there.

Peto went undrafted in 2018, instead choosing to attend Stetson University.   As a redshirt sophomore in 2019, Peto pitched in 16 games, with 15 of them as a starter.   He had an ugly 1-9 record.  However, he received just 2.9 runs per game support.  Nine of his games were one-run games.   His only victory of the season was against Florida State, when he worked 4 no-hit innings with six strikeouts in a 1-0 win, as he teamed with 2 other pitchers to no-hit the Seminoles.   Peto allowed two or fewer earned runs in 10 of his 15 starts but was 1-5 with four no decisions in those games.  24 of the 34 earned runs he allowed all season, came in five games.  Peto had an 8.75 ERA in those five games and a 1.00 ERA in his 11 other outings.  

Peto was Ranked the #314 prospect by Baseball America for the 2019 draft, who profiled him as follows:

Highly touted out of high school, Peto was drafted by the Dodgers(sic) in the 30th round in 2016, but instead made it to campus at North Carolina. After a redshirt season in Chapel Hill due to back issues, Peto transferred to the State JC of Florida for his 2018 season, where his stuff was down in the 90-91 mph range. At Stetson, Peto stuff has bounced back and he’s thrown a 94-95 mph fastball that has touched 97.  His secondaries were well below-average a year ago, but they have improved this season. The arsenal includes a curveball that he began throwing with a spike grip once he got to Stetson, which has an impressive track record of developing pitchers. While Peto has posted a 4.48 over 13 starts, he has struck out 68 batters in 60 innings and his improved stuff could interest teams on day two, though his medical history will be a factor.

He was selected in the 26th round of the MLB Amateur Draft by Tampa Bay but, again, chose not to sign.   He returned to Stetson for his red-shirt junior season. 

During an abbreviated 2020 season with Stetson, Peto had a 3-0 record, with an impressive 1.78 ERA, striking out 41 batters in 25.1 innings, while walking 13. Opponents batted just .172 against him.  “I was off to a really good start this year, but wasn’t sure it was going to be enough to go in one of five rounds,” Peto said regarding the 2020 Draft.   Several teams expressed interest in Peto, a hard-thrower with tremendous arm strength, a great build, and an outstanding pedigree, but alas he wasn’t drafted.  

As mentioned above, Peto was best friends with Zach Attianese.   They roomed together as freshman at North Carolina State and the following year at State College of Florida.  They would often talk about one day playing pro ball together for the same organization.   Tim Hill II, who coached Peto and Attianese at the State College of Florida,, stated in an interview that the Los Angeles Dodgers called Attianese and expressed interest in selecting him during the 2018 MLB draft.  Attianese, who had an excellent year at State College of Florida made it abundantly clear he wouldn’t sign a professional contract at the time because he wanted to continue his development and education at Florida State University for whom he was going to play in 2019.   Peto, signed his contract with the Dodgers on the 2-year anniversary of Attianese’s untimely death.   “He at all times wanted to play for the Dodgers because he loved (Clayton) Kershaw,” Peto said of Attianese, adding that his grandfather, Walt, who the Yankees drafted in 1967, was also a huge Dodgers fan.   “It just felt like it was so right for me to go with the Dodgers,” said Peto, who called Los Angeles “a great organization.

Peto’s phone began “blowing up” at 9 a.m. Sunday when teams were allowed to begin calling free agents.

I heard from the Tigers, the Brewers, Indians and the Blue Jays,” Peto said. “The Dodgers and the Blue Jays were the two coming at me the most aggressively. It was different for each team, though. Some teams I would just hear from one person, but with the Blue Jays, I probably spoke with eight or nine people in the organization. With the Dodgers I probably spoke to 13 or 14 people.” “At one point, I was on a zoom call (with the Dodgers) with eight different people who run their minor league pitching staff, and we just talked pitching for like a half-hour. It was an exciting day.”   “When it comes to developing pitchers, there’s no one really better out there than the Dodgers,” Peto said. “It’s the perfect fit.

When they announced that[draft would only be 5 rounds], there were a plethora of players around the country who were disappointed, and probably no one more than Robbie,” said Stetson head coach Steve Trimper. “We all thought he’d go in the 6th, 7th or 8th round … in the four weeks that we played he certainly proved that.”  

The slot value of a player picked in the sixth round last year was between $237,000 and $301,600. 

I’m going to be a little broke,” Peto added with a laugh. “It’s going to pay off, though. It’s part of the grind.”  “I made the best decision I could have possibly made when I transferred from junior college to Stetson,” said Peto, “I was truly so happy at Stetson … the hardest thing about all of this is having to leave.”

But they told me it’s time for me to start my pro career, and I agree with them. It’s time for me to go out and do it.”

Because no one knows when baseball will resume, Peto doesn’t know when, or what, his next move will be.  Normally, newly signed players will head to instructional leagues and rookie ball for the remainder of the summer, but the ongoing pandemic has put everything in doubt, including a season.   For now, Peto, who with his family had a zoom call with the Dodgers to commemorate the signing, plans to work out from his New Jersey home. Later this week.  Peto said he will continue to work out and throw on a regular basis while awaiting his assignment, which might not come until the fall or the spring. Regardless, Peto said he will be more than ready. 

Peto will also be working with the PRD Baseball Academy this summer along with his former high school head coach Pat Geroni and former high school assistant coach Shawn McCorkle. 

Robbie comes from a great baseball household,” mentioned Geroni, “It was ingrained in him at a younger age. He is aware of the right way to carry himself on the field. When Robbie performed, he was always a team-first player.  I have a really good feeling that, matched with his natural character, you will really see him work toward something special,” Geroni said. “I wouldn’t be surprised with his skill set, mental state and baseball pedigree if you saw him actually make it (to the Major Leagues) within three to four years. It wouldn’t shock me at all.” 

His Stetson coach added; 

Robbie has an infectious personality that other people want to be around,” Trimper said. “I know he’s going to be very successful.

Peto’s signing didn’t create much of a blip on the Dodger news radar screen.   His college statistics don’t scream “destined for greatness”, but here’s a young man that has worked very hard for the past 6 or more years, and I wish him nothing but success on this part of his journey.

Feel free to continue on with whatever you want to discuss.   As you do, would you mind getting me another rib?   

I’ve added a great underdog song to help Peto on the way.

This article has 50 Comments

  1. Nice writeup 2d2, probably the longest ever for a guy who wasn’t even drafted.

    Loved your third paragraph above and completely agree. We don’t have to all agree, we just need to be civil to one another.

    Peto should feel honored considering he’s the only guy they’ve signed since the draft. They must think very highly of him. AF is probably saving the rest of his money for Mookie.

    I’d be happy to get you another rib, just let me know pork or beef? Memphis, St. Louis, KC, Texas or Carolinas style?

    1. Very nice article,.2D2! This blog gives me something to look forward to every day. I get just a little dose of the enjoyment that I usually get during the season. And in these times of appreciating small things, it’s something to appreciate. I am also struck by how much pitchers often have to deal with adversity in their development and careers. Injuries like shoulder, elbow, and back problems can lead to lost seasons and long rehabilitation. In Peto’s case, his back injury affected his velocity and probably his mechanics, accounting for a spike in his statistics. It is a story we have often heard before. That’s where character comes in, having the courage to persist, but also the flexibility to find a way forward. When NC State didn’t work out, for example, he transferred, ending up at Stetson, where he got the instruction he needed. A different person might just have given up, or kept running in place, unwilling to take a risk to try something different. In reminds me of Orel Hersheiser,.whose road to MLB wasn’t straight or easy. Adversity can make you stronger, and teach you new things along the way. I wish this young man luck. Barring serious injury, his talent and great attitude may take him all the way.

  2. After the draft in 2019, BA had this headline:

    Biggest Day 3 Upside: Robbie Peto

    He has potential.

    1. Potential is an interesting word. Antonyms: actual, existent (existing in fact and not merely potential or possible). But for where we got him, potential is good.

  3. 2d2, you made me like this guy. I hope he makes it. I hope he keeps his focus and doesn’t get distracted by the $20,000 just put is his pocket, less taxes of course.

    …”I can think your opinion is “nutty”, at the same time offering to get you another drink, so we can talk some more.” … I thought you were going to say and offer an opinion back just as nutty but instead, you offer a drink and try to get even more nutty opinions. That works too.

    I think we only need one Covid message. This is it: Covid is spread from person to person and best spreads when we are within 6 feet of each other and do not wear a mask that prevents our particulates from traveling more than a foot or so when we speak, cough, sneeze, clear our throats, etc. It can also be caused by being in a room filled with people where the room has poor ventilation or recirculating air. The good news is that if a person doesn’t have Covid they can’t spread what they don’t have. So to the extent we are careful when we are around people that may be carriers we can more quickly starve Covid to death.

    1. Those are of course your opinions Bum (that I happen to agree with). The problem is, as it has been from the beginning, people of influence in this country do not agree with you. “It will be gone by Easter” they said. Then it was “It will disappear”. Many states, listening to those influencers, were late in social distancing measures then many more opened too soon. The whole thing has been a debacle. At one point watching people across the country not practicing recommended protocols scream about liberties being violated while the numbers in their respective states skyrocketed I threw up my hands in frustration and said wtf, we might as well open up and get it over with, and people agreed with me!

      You’re right though. There should be one Covid message. Pucker up.

      1. Of course…..says the person that is in retirement. Everyone should just stay home. If you want to stay home, stay the f’n home. I’ve worked every day during this pandemic…..not once wearing a f’n mask. Nor have I wore gloves. Never got the Covid-19 virus. Nor has anyone that I work with.

        I feel for the teens, 20, 30 and 40 year olds, hell most 50 y/o’s. Most have been told they are non-essential and have been stuck at home (many in their small apartments) with kids while losing their income. All the while, the older generation in power continue to make decisions that is best for their age group.

        If you are scared and afraid of getting the virus, stay home. Not everyone is afraid and most do not want to live like that.

        And its amazing that your primary focal point was that others not afraid of the virus protesting that their liberties were being violated WHICH WAS TRUE but over the past month, I’ve witness ZERO SOCIAL DISTANCING from thousands protesting. But you conveniently ignore that.
        Throughout this whole pandemic where millions of Americans filed for unemployment there is only 1 elected official that did not accept their pay.

        1. Ooh, touched a red nerve.

          Where did I say everyone should just stay home?

          You have a problem with protesters? I saw many of them wearing masks. I saw only a few at Trump rallies. Hardly any in deep red states. My point was simply the political division is sadly manifested in who is, and who is ain’t, practicing suggested preventative medical protocols In my opinion, Americans have been given some inaccurate and misleading information.

          Yes, I am most fortunate to be retired. I’m also older than you. I too feel for those who have lost their jobs, and for all who are suffering. I support a decisive disaster relief program for those in need. Policy plans for those can be found on the Biden for President website. That’s a joke…. but it’s probably true.

          I’m not scared. I’m concerned.

          “Throughout this whole pandemic where millions of Americans filed for unemployment there is only 1 elected official that did not accept their pay.“

          That is laughably absurd.

          1. I have a money tree. I keep it healthy by using US Water filtered H2O and organic fertilizer.

          2. Guess you get what you pay for. Our one official that has turned down his pay has lead to the following:

            Current daily cases in EU, 4,000. In the US 27,000.

            US has 4% of the population and 25% of the deaths.

  4. Per Bob Nightengale Twitter Account
    @BNightengale

    #MLB and the #MLBPA continue to exchange ideas with the health and safety protocols. There are no major snags. The union already informed MLB that it plans to play, and be in spring training camps by July 1 with a 60-game season starting July 24-26 weekend.

        1. lol…You’re right Bum. Even if they start July 1st, will they make it thru “ST”, a 60 game season and the playoffs? I know, I’m a “glass half empty” guy. BTW, Does anyone know how the playoffs would work?

  5. So, will Betts bat lead off?

    Is there a 2020 NL DH? If so, which Dodger will get the most at bats as DH?

    I am going with yes and Kike’.

      1. Will these be the big dates?

        Start of ‘spring’ training: July 1

        Opening Day: July 24

        Trade deadline: Reportedly Aug. 31

        End of regular season: Likely Sept. 27

        End of postseason: Likely before Nov. 1

  6. How many HR leads our team? 15?
    How many wins leads our team? 6?

    There will be some bizarre numbers this year!!

  7. @JonHeyman
    Play ball! Hearing owners and players have worked it all out, and there will be baseball.

      1. Let’s see what happens between now and July 24th.
        The Phillies have had 12 people test positive in the past week (including 7 players). I believe I read where opening day rosters will be at 30 and then as the season progresses that number will be reduced slightly. I haven’t heard what they plan to do with regard to taxi squads, but if the season had started a week ago, the Phils would already be down to 23 players.
        How long will a player who tests positive be in isolation, assuming he is asymptomatic or has very mild symptoms?
        I assume that these questions have been addressed by both sides and answers have been agreed to. At some point maybe they’ll let us know what they’ve decided.

        1. I’m also curious how the governors in those states with stadiums are going to address the opening of those facilities for games. I know Newsom is not sold on the idea yet. Maybe they’ve got a plan for it but health protections for players, staff and traveling parties for each team (numbered in the thousands for the league) stadium workers, and the families of all those involved must be considered.

          Play ball!

          Or not.

  8. Chili raised some important issues:

    Most of the “stay at home” proclamations come from politicians who are insulated, journalists who work from home, retired people, and others who are well off financially.

    We have no idea the number of young people, young families, and small business owners who may end up bankrupt or worse due to the shutdown. Broken homes and families, homelessness, depression, and suicides are all on the rise. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.

    I would be curious as to how many have actually had this highly contagious disease. It would not surprise me if 20 times the known infection rate is what it actually is. A quick antibodies test can reveal it. I had it in January before it was a “thing” and my family also had it. A number of our close acquaintances and co-workers also had the same thing we did… nobody died… but all were pretty sick. Since March 1st, no one in our circle has had symptoms.

    It’s easy to tell others to say at home when you are retired, financially stable, a damn lying politician or a scummy journalist (how do I really feel about them?), but some people have no choice.

    Last Saturday, I picked up an M.D. from the Airport. We had never met, so I described what I was driving and wearing. I had my mask in hand, in case he wanted it, but he and his girlfriend walked up to me and shook my hand and he said “I’m from Texas, we don’t give a shit about COVID-19.” His girlfriend as also a doctor and both said that he had the virus in March.

    This is from Dr. Douglas Frank:

    “The Precautionary Principle”

    “If we open schools in the Fall, then students will spread Covid, and there will be unnecessary deaths.”

    “If we allow students to drive to school in the Fall, then there will be more car accidents and more unnecessary deaths.”

    “If we allow students to reconvene in the Fall, then they will spread the influenza, and there will be more unnecessary deaths.”

    “If we allow students to eat candy bars and drink soda pop in the Fall, then there will be an increase in diabetes, so more susceptibility to Covid, and so more unnecessary deaths.”

    The precautionary principle justifies all sorts of really silly decisions, doesn’t it?

    How about, “If we keep people separated from human interaction and destroy their educations, careers, and businesses we will have more suicides, depression, anxiety, and drug abuse, so there will be more unnecessary deaths?”

    1. Common sense isn’t allowed, MT, you should know better. Right on with your comments on this health and political football issue. I don’t think that some people really want a good conclusion to this virus, some people dwell on misery and suffering, avoiding any rational and encouraging news, misery really does love company (just watch a few minutes of CNN and MSDNC if you doubt that).

      Now to the MLB season, does the MLB really expect players to just show up and play after all this squabbling between the two sides? If it was just a matter of the MLB declaring “let the season begin” why didn’t it happen sooner and with little to no input from the players? BTW, I think some players are really concerned about their health and many players are also being used as tools by various political interest groups. You can bet that some of the players have been “gotten to” and “persuaded” to come out strong against the MLB in order to advance a political agenda in this country. There are “useful idiots” in all walks of life and on social media, even on sports discussion blogs, yeah I know it is shocking to hear that.

      It’s time for Dodger Baseball, or it’s time for Covid Baseball (yeah I will believe it when I see it)

      1. Yep. Idiots are everywhere. Some useful, some not so much.

        “Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.” MT.

        I have heard this said before and I do understand your point.

        You got sick and you recovered. Good for you. I got sick once too. In ‘68 I had malaria and I nearly died. I had a fever of 105 three times and each time I was thrown into an ice bath. Indescribable pain. I had an NDE. It’s not something I talk much about but I can tell you what you read about it is true. From what I’ve read about this virus dying from it is like dying from malaria and I don’t wish that on anybody. Again, I get your point but hundreds of thousands dying a horrible unnecessary death to save an economy is a tough one for me. Cant we find another way?

        “COVID-19 will be with us for some time. Are months of government-enforced lockdowns the right policy? We don’t know, and as moral philosophers, we can’t answer this question on our own. Empirical researchers need to take on the challenge of calculating the effects, not in terms of wealth or health, but in the ultimate currency, wellbeing.“

        https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2020/04/07/commentary/world-commentary/will-cure-worse-disease/

        I think talking about this is healthy. Ignoring it is most certainly not.

    2. Mark, I particularly like your common sense approach to the handling of this virus:

      In March/April you had a post that suggested the use of silver solution. The Government shot down that as a solution.

      You’ve touted the use of hydroxycloroquine. The FDA and NIH has said is doesn’t work (unfortunately).

      Compared COVID-19 to the 1968 Hong Kong flu. Yes both events had/have 100,000 deaths but are not comparable. One population had unfettered access the other has had sheltering in place, 6 foot standoff distancing, use of face masks and major increases in hand washing These are two different Statistical populations and cannot be compared. Before you say “well we didn’t shut things down” how many deaths do you think we would have if people had unfettered access right now?

      Have stated that you would not buy season tickets to the Pacers and a week later said you would. A week after that you said you take this all seriously and don’t think you will have long term immunity from the virus. If so, why risk getting season tickets?

      Always seem to mention how places you go people aren’t wearing masks, as if this is somehow the right thing to be doing. Is this what you truly believe?

      The EU did the same as we did. However, they followed the guidelines and our country has not. The EU now has 4,000 cases/day. The US 27,000/day. Based on this the EU is considering baring people fro the US to enter there countries. Italy, which had the worst of conditions is doing better than us. Why, they followed a plan. As weird as it might sound, we would be luck to be like Italy right now.

      It has never been shut down vs stay open. Countries that set rigorous plans in place and stuck with them are opening up and containing the virus. Unfortunately, the US never set up a national plan of action and we have leadership that is claiming the virus is over.

      1. MP,

        Not sure what silver solution you are talking about but at the time, I would have taken hydroxycloroquine. Matter of fact, I talked to several people who took it and recovered rather quickly. There are now better methods, including steroids which has shown a remarkable increase in recovery.

        I still will not go to games or races.

        I wear a mask, but not always. There is still a lot masks don’t do… and damage they can do, but they likely do help.

        Dramatic increases in testing is a big part of the “spiking” in cases.

        1. Well put MP.

          “Dramatic increases in testing is a big part of the “spiking” in cases.“

          Mark that’s just nonsense. You don’t need hospital care because you got tested.

          You “know” a lot of people and it seems like everyone you know and talk to agree with you.

          And as for your Texas MD friend that doesn’t believe in Covid? Really? An MD from a state that is spiking out in another state shaking strangers hands? No wonder we lead the world in Covid. We are a nation of fools.

          1. Yes, we are a nation and a world of fools, that’s for sure. I fear that many fools are clouding issues that are really taking place. Also, there have been so many conflicting statements issued by such agencies and individuals, that the general public really has no idea what to follow (masks are bad, masks are good, attending protests are okay and the risk of spreading the virus is worth it but going to church or some other large gathering is bad and the risk of spreading the virus is great and not worth it, etc etc.)
            Anyway, I am reminded of the story of the boy that cried wolf. We have had so many cries of wolf, often issued then retracted within 24 hrs., that the public, or at least me, have almost zero trust in ANYTHING that our officials and talking heads are telling us.

            For God’s sake, don’t take in all the data and newscasts at face value, there are a whole lot of deceit and confusion being laid out for willing consumers to consume. Just because they say it is true doesn’t mean it is true.

          2. The cases reported are just positive cases, not hospital admissions… which are WAY down on the average.

          3. From 15 hours ago:

            “Seven states are reporting new highs for current coronavirus hospitalizations, according to data tracked by The Washington Post — Arizona, Arkansas, California, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas — as the number of infections continues to climb across the South and West. More than 800 covid-19 deaths were reported in the United States on Tuesday, the first time fatalities have increased since June 7.“

  9. If someone said “hi, I’m a doctor and I don’t care about Covid’ (regardless of what state he/she was from), I’d think that person was an utter idiot. Not only would I not shake his/her hand, I’d likely tell that moron to go back to whatever moron state he/she came from.

    My sister the Physician Assistant and my brother in law the ER doctor have literally had to pronounce bodies dead from Covid and order those bodies to be stuffed into an ice truck because there’s nowhere else to keep those dead bodies because more and more dying patients need those ER rooms.

    Disagreeing on how Covid is being handled is one thing. Acting as if it’s no big deal (and saying we don’t give a shit about Covid is acting as if its no big deal) is an entirely different matter.

  10. Texans are a different breed.

    Not saying I agree.

    Here’s a number we can agree on:

    Monday and Tuesday marked the fewest COVID -19 deaths nationally since March 1st!

    … and testing is way up. I am in SC where the infection rate is spiking. They just went back to Phase 1. However there are places all over with no lines to get tested.

  11. From the ashes.. Absolutely great reading about baseball the last several weeks.. My wife runs me copies daily… God bless her…
    I hope today we get back to baseball or juggling chainsaws or something besides Covid… It’s red state vs. blue state political crap… I’m 73 with underlying conditions and I rely on the doctors… EZ…
    One thing you can take to the bank is Dr. Mark J. Timmons loves to wax eloquent on the Kung Flu…
    I was thinking is Chili really Carlos???
    Baseball… Damn I miss it but I think it will flame out in ST with covid cases… I hope not, but I gotta be realistic… The greed in these negotiations really makes me nauseous…
    I’M LATE, BUT HAPPY FATHER’S DAY TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE…
    Damn all the surf stuff got me really smiling…
    Born n raised Manhattan Beach… 64 grad from Mira Costa H.S… Surfed 10th. St.,
    Mike Purpus was damn good, David Nueva blew me away….
    Dances at Live Oak park M.B. and concerts in Redondo Beach….
    Those were the daze… O.P. shorts, topsiders and a splash of Jade East and you were ready..
    Shout out to my Man Watford…
    My rehab is moving along like lava…

    1. What’s up peterj
      I worked with big wave Dave for 25 years
      We were in the trade show industry together
      He surfed the big boards, Was a hang 10 specialist
      He taught me how to surf ,never got that good but enjoy the hell out of it

  12. Charlie Blackman tested positive for COVID! Many more to come. If I were 20-38 I would play.

    1. Could see that. Curious about the flip side; if your in your 60’s would you want to manage/coach? Maybe all teams need to place an age limit.

  13. Arizona had 79 new deaths yesterday. The numbers aren’t dropping here and I don’t want to be another stat..
    I’m seeing an interesting attitude developing as reflected by the story about the Texans who had a survivable case and now are apparently immune and bulletproof. Now everyone else can FO and they can do as they please. Maybe that’s the “Final Solution”. Maybe everyone should be exposed and if you’re lucky enough to survive than we’ve culled the herd. Once all the “weaklings” are gone then Covid-19 is no longer a problem. A new Master Race, I guess.
    That’s pretty easy for the survivors. However in my case at my age and circumstance, I’m at big risk not to survive this cleansing. Another one bites the dust. My bad.

  14. Some good reads in here today. Conversation on these issues is vital.

    I remain skeptical about this season actually coming off as planned. I’m hoping it works. Summer without baseball is like swimming without water. That makes no sense but I know you get what I mean.

  15. “Seven states are reporting new highs for current coronavirus hospitalizations, according to data tracked by The Washington Post — Arizona, Arkansas, California, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. This means 43 states have less than their highs! How low were the highs in these states to begin with? I know figures don’t lie, but liars do figure!

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