Maybe Turner Ward Was Just Plain Wrong!

I have been doing a lot of thinking and analysis and while I am a believer in analytics, I do not think that stats are the end all, be all. Humans play the game of baseball and no human can be fully captured with a single stat. However, there are a few statistics that just totally jump out at me. For example, when a batter has two strikes on them, they have very little chance of getting a hit. It’s way under .200.

On the average, when a MLB hitter has a 2 strike count on him, he has less than a 1 on 5 chance of getting on base. In fact, the best chance a hitter has is at 3-2 when the average batting average is .202. .202! That sucks! The fact remains that a hitter is most likely to get a hit when they only have no strikes or one strike. I am not just talking about the Dodgers, but EVERY MLB team. This is what is happening to all teams, not just the Dodgers… maybe they are even worse. I haven’t researched that.

There are exceptions. Mookie Betts hit .300 with two strikes last season… but has never approached that average before. He had a “special” season in 2018. Now, since this is a reality, is it caused by the “approach” of hitters when they have two strikes? Anthony Rizzo, who is generally recognized as good hitter, changes his approach with two strikes: he chokes up on the bat. One of the changes Robert Van Socyoc is trying to make is to have the Dodger hitters shorten up their swings, or “choke up” with two strikes.

However, I wonder if being patient is really a virtue. Turner Ward preached “working the count.” Is that really smart when the statistics show that when a hitter gets two strikes, he hits below .200? Working the count so that you have a less than one in five chance of getting a hit seems really silly to me. What seems to be a better strategy is to look for a certain pitch in a certain area (you can’t cover the whole strike zone) early in the count. If you see it – you hit it!

I think that is part of RVS’s plan, but old habits die hard. You can be too eager, just like you can be too patient. There’s a fine line between Saturday Night and Sunday Morning! This process is going to take a while – some players “get it” already. With others, it may be a process and other may never get it. We should see incremental improvement, I would think, but who knows? That’s why they play the game.

The Freeway Series

I think the Angels are more excited about playing the Dodgers in the Freeway Series than the Dodgers are about playing the Angels. It showed last night. It’s like playing your little brother and he beats you… but you really don’t care because down deep, you know you can kick his butt! The next two games won’t mean much as guys are just getting tuned up. I would not be surprised to see the Angels sweep. Muncy, Seager, Turner and Bellinger look ready. Everyone else is sleepwalking. Reminder: Spring Training doesn’t mean much.

Other Dodger News

  • The Dodgers claimed Justin Grimm, who opted out of his contract with Cleveland. Of course, we already know that Brad Miller signed with them. Grimm has never been “all that” but sometimes a change of scenery is all that is needed or not… He is in the mix.
  • I don’t know if the final decision has been made here’s the Roster of the following teams:

OKLAHOMA CITY

TULSA

Again, I am not sure they have been assigned, but if they have been, the Dodgers are not rushing anyone.

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  1. Pitchers and pitching coaches know how they want to get a hitter out and most pitches set up that out pitch. Seager ruined the pitcher’s strategy in his first at bat by swinging at and hitting a ball up and away and out of the strike zone for a base hit. The next pitch was going to be the pitcher’s out pitch.

    I guess I would like hitters to be aware of what they usually see is the first pitch to them and if it tends to be soft and outside, then have a plan to hit that first pitch the other way. If a hitter looks for a first pitch they can hit for a home run, the pitcher will know that.

    I think RVS is helping hitters look for pitches that are most likely to be offered to them and to have a swing that best attacks those pitches.

    Pitchers always look better than they are in the first several innings when games start at 5:05 PM.

  2. Mark, I have often tried to remember to see if any Dodgers were choking up on the bat with 2 strikes. I do not remember one batter doing it, so far. Maybe I haven’t been very observant, but has anyone noticed anyone doing this?

    Honestly, I cannot see any difference in the Dodgers batting with RVS at the controls this year in any capacity. Was Muncy’s two hits yesterday indicative of this new philosophy? If it was, then we shouldn’t look at all his other at bat’s during the spring training?

    Why do all these injuries pile up near the end of ST and the beginning of the new season? Has anyone done any analysis on this?

    If there is another injury in our OF, who will be backing up Verdugo and placed on the roster? Is anyone near ready for such a circumstance? Is that why they have Beaty playing? I have more questions now than I had since the WS!!

    1. I don’t think anyone will be able to tell any difference in a short take. It’s going to have to develop over time. The proof will be after a few months. There will be peaks and valleys, success and failure. Choking up may not work for everyone, but I have noticed some players cutting down on their swing with two strikes.

      Rios and Beaty are in the mix , but Kike and CT3 play there too. Short term, Freese can play 1B and Muncy 2B if needed. They are a long way from that however. Additionally, they are heavily LH. I still think Castellanos is on their radar.

    2. Our outfield depth is pretty thin, as witnessed by the number of at-bats by Orlando and Carrera. Beaty is probably next in line with Toles out of the picture. I wouldn’t count on D.J. Peters either this year. It’s a legitimate concern mitigated a bit by Taylor’s and Hernandez’s versatility. It’s also why we’ve seen Rios get some work in in LF.

  3. Jeff – I remember back in the day when players went to ST to get into shape… Now they’re coming in buffed and ready… A 2 week break after the season and it’s back with your conditioning coach… Is it too much for some??? They see these modern day contracts and I don’t blame them too much..
    Just a thought though and being an old fart I remember alot of the players having jobs on the off season..

  4. The BP just might be the teams achilles heel this year. Floro, Garica and Jansen looked rather pedestrian last night and Ferguson didn’t have a great camp. Get well CK and Rich Hill so we can move some pieces (Stripling and Urias) to the BP.

    Let’s hope this team is ready to roll when the bell rings Thursday. Can’t expect a 42-8 run every year. Pollack looked horrible last swinging and missing on two breaking balls that were as far out of the strike zone from me to you. Seager is going to be huge for the Dodgers this year, MVP type numbers I believe.

    None of the spring training stats mean a thing. I will be at DS on Opening Day for the first time ever. By the way; why isn’t Opening Day a National Holiday? Go Blue!

  5. The pitching was bad. Way too many Ks by the offense. After earning the second base job, Kike responded with 3Ks. Joc and Verdugo both wore the collar. But, we did have some hits at the top of the lineup, so it’s not all doom and gloom. I’ll take the slow start each year if it means we made it to the World Series the year prior.

    Seager is a nice surprise for so little prep. Bellinger, Muncy and Pollock are just getting going. I look around the field and see talent at every position. I look at the batting order and see the lack of a leadoff hitter and cleanup hitter. The pitching staff has 3 ILs and the healthy guys didn’t look good last night. The sky is not falling, patience grasshopper.

    I expected to see more for the freeway series.

  6. I agree with Mark about his thoughts on getting behind on the count, because most pitchers are not going to give a hitter a decent pitch, if they are ahead on the count.

    I also agree with Mark, it will take a little time for some, and some will never get it.

    Most of our best hitters looked good last night, and the rest of our hitters, were in various stages and some are not even close.

  7. On Sunday Jeff mentioned he thought that Vin Scully was overrated. I responded from my perspective early this morning while most of you were still in dream land and comments on the post got closed.

    Jeff- that would have to be relative. Compared to whom would Vin be overrated?

    He was a one man – three man show – going without color commentary from others. He didn’t need it and others couldn’t have provided more than he did. He provided it all for himself, one man with no dead air time. The preparation time for each game must have been extraordinary. I forgot, there was some dead air time but only when Vin allowed the crowd to take over the mike to savor a moment.

    When Vin told a story which included himself it was about how it related to a player with whom he had interacted. Among his many virtues,I think humility topped the list.

    Who was the greatest Dodger of all time? For me it is Vin Scully who gave more to me over an unbelievable 67 years than any other Dodger. My view is of course irrevocably slanted in that the first game I ever heard on radio in 1952 Vin was calling. My radio dial never changed to another game while the Dodgers were still in Brooklyn. I imprinted like a chicken.

    1. If we’re playing Top Five, I’d go:

      1. Jackie Robinson
      2. Sandy Koufax
      3. Vin Scully
      4. Fernando Valenzuela
      5. Orel Hershiser

      1. Top Five:
        1. Sandy Koufax
        2. Don Drysdale
        3. Jackie Robinson
        4. Duke Snider
        5. Steve Garvey

    2. DC,
      I also grew up listening to Vin on radio in N.Y. I’m a Brooklyn Boy and saw them win their first WS. But, I also grew up listening to Mel Allen, Red Barber, and a few that I can’t remember their names. In my adulthood, being exposed to all kinds of influences, people, cultures, languages, and philosophies, I began to look at people differently and began to appreciate the way certain announcers spoke, both their tone, subject matter, and how they spoke to people. Announcers often speak like schoolteachers with a pacing that is unnatural, sort of developed. I found Vin to be one of these types of announcers. Sure he was likable and had a longevity unmatched in the game. But, I could never get used to his delivery and the stuff he used to pull out of his research. Like Orel, I start to tune out people who tell stories all the time. I’m not a campfire girl or boy scout. I enjoy announcers who are in the present, commenting on things going on in the game, not necessarily what went on 20 years ago when so and so came up to bat. I’m not watching to be enthralled or entertained by someone’s memory or ‘style’. And Vin was mostly style to me. I’m aware that mine is not the common response and will rub some the wrong way. Vin was a baseball raconteur.

      Joe Davis is another guy I don’t enjoy listening to. Milk toast through and through. He’s not a baseball guy. I do like Tim Neverett’s delivery. He’s got an easy voice to listen to and is baseball literate. The Giants announcers are another group I like. Krukow is one in a thousand. Tells it like it is. Long time players or coaches will often make good announcers. Like in basketball, most of the really good commentators were players or coaches. Who better to call games?

    3. I agree with DC on Vin. The most important Dodger of all time is Vin Scully. I cannot think of one other person who has developed more Dodger fans over a longer period of time than Vin Scully. Certainly nobody who grew up a Dodger fan in the radio era of the 50’s and 60’s can point to another who created a better visual with his voice. Sure we all fell in love with Duke, Gil, Sandy, Big D, Jackie, Newk…but it was the way that Sandy described the game and the players in that game that formed my love of the Dodgers. Go back and listen to the last inning of Koufax’s perfect game against the Cubs for an announced perfect game. I have heard multiple calls of Henry Aaron’s HR #715 and of Kirk Gibson’s 1988 Game 1 WS HR, but none described the event better.

      There have been a lot of great Dodgers, some in and some not in the HOF, but the greatest of them all is Vin Scully.

      1. Kudos to you AC… It just didn’t get any better than a cold beer in my back yard listening to Vinny… No TV!!! You didn’t need it… Great play by play and oh my the stories he’d tell!!! Sweet..

    4. Wow, I think “Vin is overrated” takes the top spot of all stupid things posted on this site. Maybe in the history of the Internet.

    5. Vin is a tremendous storyteller always using just the right words, pauses, and tone. He is unmatched. I was always trying to understand why I loved baseball more than any other sport. And it was through Vin that I learned why. Baseball is a storyline that develops slowly over 162 games. And when those games are done, it takes a breath, and continues again next season. It has tradition and ritual. It moves in parallel to our lives. Vin painted that masterpiece better than anybody.

  8. Jackie would be hard to pass over because of his social impact. I chose Vin as having the most impact directly on my life.

    1. Jackie is my most admired Dodger ever. Lasorda is my favorite Dodger ever. For Vin to be considered a Dodger by most without ever donning the uniform, or being an owner is a testament to his greatness as a broadcaster.

      1. I have to say Lasorda is my all-time favorite manager. He was so fun to watch. So was Billy Martin.
        Dick Williams on the Swinging A’s was often over looked, he ran a club of misfits won 3 straight world series.

    1. I am a big Vin fan too.

      He is the best baseball anouncer the game has ever had.

      But like I told Jeff, I don’t like Orel as an anouncer, because he is to much of a homer, and because of that, he doesn’t call the game like it is.

      And I think Joe is a different announcer when he is not with Orel.

      I like Nomar better then Orel, as well as Monday, and I was never a big Monday fan, but he is a much better analyst then Orel is too.

    2. I don’t disagree with Jeff’s opinion as his opinion , especially with what he offered in his explanation above. He looks for something different and that is OK. His explanation is well presented and I understand it. I needed some explanation why he felt Vin was overrated.

      I, on the other hand, live in the past and the future. The present is just what it is and I can see it happening without an announcer. The past can never be taken from me with the Dodger greats. I think that Vin held the game together with the past and the present. The present Dodger lore is built on the past and should never be forgotten. Vin helped us to connect. I liked his presentation, his different perspective on things, he unique vocabulary and his love of the game and the Dodgers.

      Another thing I liked about Vin was that, unlike me, he wasn’t a homer. He gave every player, Dodger and opponents, full value for their efforts. He often gave anecdotal information about opponents. The respect he had from umpires was unprecedented with their pregame salute to VIn. He also was not critical of umpires.

      Two announcers I always liked are Dave Van Horne (Expos and Matlins) and Dan Shulman. Great clear voices and good intonation.

      1. Thanks, DC. People want and see different things. Those that cannot understand or want to understand other views than their own missed the most important element in Vin’s presentation which you covered very nicely, was his fairness and respect of others. As a man, I respect that deeply, and perhaps this is why Vin is legendary to many.

  9. Roberts tends to keep as many players relevant as he can. That helps make a happy clubhouse and keeps more players sharp. It also creates platoons and premature pinch hitting. It has worked for him for the regular season and in playoff games where the opponent had mostly righty pitchers.

    I think the Dodgers could go without platoons but with minor changes to the batting order.

    1. I hope they are, as in. The new hitting coaches are doing a great job, while the Dodgers boast the top offense. Unfortunately, it will probably be like. Too many Ks, players are adjusting, yada, yada, yada.

      1. 59, what makes you say the hitting coaches are doing a great job? Can you give some evidence of this? Has something changed radically from what we’ve seen in seasons before?

  10. I think Orel and Joe work really well together. I like them.

    Vin is way beyond needing defending.

  11. The rosters of OKC and Tulsa are very fluid. They do not need to be finalized until April 4. When the players are optioned or transferred back to the minor leagues, they are generally transferred to minor league camp for later assignment. For all of the players sent back to minor league camp, they are generally assigned to the roster of the team they last played for in the prior year. The one exception this year is that Yadi Alvarez has been assigned to OKC. For most of the players who signed minor league contracts, they were assigned at that time, but they are always subject to change. Most of those have MLB experience and were originally assigned to AAA.

    There are currently three catchers assigned to OKC and only one to Tulsa. Does Connor Wong get re-assigned from RC to Tulsa or does Josh Thole get re-assigned from OKC to Tulsa.

    Justin De Fratus has not yet been assigned, but looking at the rosters, it appears that he should be assigned to OKC as a starting pitcher. OKC currently only have Daniel Corcino, Dennis Santana, and Brock Stewart as starting AAA pitchers. I have no idea as to whether Alvarez is considered a SP or RP. Tony Gonsolin, Dustin May, and Mitchell White are potential SP that could be assigned to OKC before the season starts. But not all three. This will become more clear once the 25th man has been absolutely decided on at the ML level. That is still open to roster and non- roster players as there are spots on the 40 man available.

    The only home grown OF on the OKC roster is Kyle Garlick. I think that speaks volumes about the plight of Dodger OF drafts over the last 3-5 years. I would not be at all surprised to see DJ Peters get re-assigned to OKC to begin the season.

    OKC only has 4 infielders currently assigned. I would hazard a guess that Errol Robinson will get a spot on the OKC roster. Omar Estevez and Cristian Santana are very good possibilities to being re-assigned to Tulsa.

    There are 4 OF on Tulsa and 4 on Rancho Cucamonga rosters. One of the 4 Tulsa outfielders is 29 year old David Popkins who has been out of ML affiliated baseball since 2014 (2015-2017 independent). His last significant baseball was played in 2016 with the Washington Wild Things of the Independent Frontier League. As said above, I think DJ Peters will be in OKC, with Jeren Kendall and Cody Thomas getting re-assigned from RC to Tulsa. The Dodgers are going to need to find other outfielders to fill some of these OF spots.

    Once the ML roster is finalized, more time will be spent on the MiLB affiliates. Expect quite a bit of movement. The Dodgers make extensive use of the MiLB IL and Temporary Inactive list.

  12. Vin certainly deserves his accolades. My own favorite pairing was Monday and Kennedy. I have never understood why Kennedy did not remain first with DodgerTalk and then with the broadcast team; I can only assume there are reasons (from whichever side) that are not public. Together they broke down the strategies and on-field experiences incredibly well.

    Does anyone else have flashbacks to Skip Carey and TBS Braves broadcasts in the 1980s when you hear Neverett?

    1. Houston Mitchell of the LA Times agrees with me about Neverett. From today’s newsletter: “Every time I listen to new Dodgers broadcaster Tim Neverett, I think I’m listening to a Braves game. He sounds just like former Braves broadcaster Skip Caray. I’m enjoying listening to Neverett and it appears he will be a solid addition to the team.”

  13. Looking at the minor league rosters Mark linked above, I noticed a few things that give us a sense of where our upper minors stand as we begin the season. Of course, we still might see some changes [a reliever joining the big club for example] but this is what we have right now.

    In AAA, the strength seems to be in relievers who could potentially help us at some point in 2019: Allie, Therrien, McCreery, Alvarez, Hart, Stewart, Sborz, Chargois. Santana stands out as the best pitcher of the group–hopefully he’s given a chance to start even if he eventually winds up in our pen. Will Smith appears to be the best [and only?] position prospect. The outfield is old and uninspiring with Kyle Garlick as the only potential prospect, although I’m not sure he’d make my top 30.

    AA has the high-end prospects. For pitching, Gonsolin/May/White are as exciting a group as we’ve had in a while and Kasowski anchors the back end of the pen. As for position prospects, Ruiz/Lux/Peters are the equivalent of the pitching triumvirate, with Zach Reks about the equal of Kyle Garlick in terms of prospect sheen.

  14. Having grown up with Vin Scully, I am unashamedly biased towards him being the best announcer in sports and him being in the top 3 of the most important members of the Dodger family. I’m not aware of any other sports team, where you could attend the ballgame live, observe the action with your own eyes, yet the stadium would be filled with transistor radios as the fans listened to Vin describe what you were watching. He seemed to see things unlike anyone else. And, he was able to articulate what he saw in ways that inspired and promoted the love for the game! He and Jackie R. and Sandy K. are my top 3. Fernando is also close, but it was Vin, in my opinion, who helped make Fernando larger than life.

    I think Joe Davis is fine as an announcer and that he will grow into the position with time. I just wish they would take Orel “Captain Obvious” Hershiser out of the booth. He grates on me. Rick Monday has a very pleasant speaking voice. However, when he is the color man with Charlie Steiner, his sentences are virtually impossible to follow, as they come out as complex algebraic formulas. However, when he is the primary play by play announcer, I think he does quite well.

    1. Vin Scully is to announcing as John Wooden is to coaching. They are so far at the end of the spectrum of performers that they nearly defy categorization. One could make the argument that Vin Scully was one of the finest speakers in history: his ability to narrate and describe events articulately and intelligently with wit, humor, and erudition was on par with some of our greatest statesmen and orators. He just happened to work in the medium of baseball.

  15. Roberts has already said there will only be one platoon on this team, and neither player right now in this platoon, are doing much, so I don’t know why we are talking about premature pinch hitting, at this point.

    But Taylor is the better defensive player of the two, and he has much more even splits of the two, but like I already said, neither player are exactly killing it, so we will have to see.

    I do hope Roberts makes some minor adjustments in the line up, because it is very apparent we need a few adjustments, to get the most from the best hitters on this team.

  16. Just like with everything else in baseball, opinions about announcers vary from one fan to another. I’m a huge Vinnie fan but his style was so unique that I can definitely understand someone’s not caring for it. Of course that opinion is in the minority.
    I’m very happy with the booth of Joe and Orel but preferred when Normar was part of it. I really enjoyed getting the pitcher’s perspective from Orel and then the batter’s perspective from Nomar. I’m assuming the powers that be thought there was simply too much talk with three guys in the booth and thought they were stepping on each other.
    The Team of Rick and Charlie? A double no thanks. They both seem like great guys but I’m not a fan of their announcing capabilities. Neverett seems just fine. Just one person’s opinion.

  17. I had the feeling last year that a big part of our approach at the plate was to run up the pitch count in an effort to remove the opposing team’s starter as quickly as possible.

    I got the impression that being patient and taking a lot pitches was more important than trying to make contact with early pitches in the count. It seemed rare that anyone had the green light to swing at the first pitch. As a result of working the count most players would end up with two strikes and a 1 in 5 chance for a hit. That explains a lot about our performance last year with RISP.

    On the other hand, teams seemed to know that Kershaw would almost always throw a strike on the first pitch and often took advantage of it.

    For me I like a more aggressive approach. I would rather see a ball put in play than a strike out. With contact there is a chance for something good to happen. With a strike out there is no chance. Maybe the approach will change this year under RVS.

    1. John, well said. Turner’s approach also makes for very boring baseball and longer games. It also doesn’t take into account the proclivity of a player and how well a player sees the ball. No system can teach that. It is an inherent motor response in the body. A player can improve this but never achieve the level that comes naturally to a natural born hitter. Like you, I also like a more aggressive approach.

  18. Vin is beyond any doubt #1 and there isn’t such thing as a close 2nd. I worked with a guy who was seeking a work as announcer of sports so I enquired how he felt about the Dodgers in which he then expressed a hate for my beloved team. I thought he’d still say Vin was an inspiration when I asked his thoughts and he stated Vin was the worse in the business. He didn’t make it in sports but he became a preacher and has a church in a small town in Wyoming. Obvious he had no clue in what makes a great sports announcer.

  19. We all have opinions but I happen to like Joe Davis ALMOST as much as I did Vin. I find them very similar.

    There are people who don’t like filet mignon, or a Napa Valley Merlot or Bo Derek (back in the day), so I guess there are those who don’t like Vin or bunnies or Christmas and that’s OK. It’s just not me.

    Vin is a National Treasure!

  20. I agree Mark, Vin IS a National Treasure. I do like Joe Davis as Vin’s replacement. He is easy on the ears, and works seamlessly with different partners(Orel, Nomah, JHair). I wish Nomah would be on TV more. He is a straight down the middle, no home filter, he calls it like he sees it, especially from a hitters perspective, the dude really knows his stuff. I was actually surprised to see Uncle Ned on some spring training games last week, and he was actually pretty good. Had alot of stories and backround stuff about how a clubhouse culture works and how guys get prepared. Not bad.

    1. The Oakland A’s used to have a great voice named Monte Moore from the early 60’s thru late 70’s. He never got a lot of recognition, but I thought he was smooth, funny and worked a game to perfection. Did any of you ever hear him??

  21. I like the idea of working the count. If you can get the pitch count up you definitely put pressure on a dominant starter. The more pitches the more likely the pitcher makes a mistake. This was probably more important when starting pitchers went longer so there is that. The idea is to get the starter out of the game while being selective. Plus, getting ahead in the count is a goal in working the count. Having 2-0, 2-1, 3-1, 3-0 counts are hitter counts that makes working the count important. Not making quick outs on first pitches is a goal. I could go on.

    On the other hand it has long been understood that the best pitch in the game is strike one. Therefor, I understand kershaw trying to get ahead so he can get hitters in 0-1,0-2, or 1-2 counts. He knows the same numbers Mark gave us. Turner is great at working the count. He also happens to be one of the better hitters hitting behind in the count. I don’t think you swing at pitches that you can’t “handle” the first pitch but instead look for a pitch in a location. With 2 strikes you have to fight for survival.

    There is so much that goes into philosophy. But, you have to know your own players strengths and weaknesses. You have to know the opposing pitchers strengths and weaknesses. For example Robbie Ray has control issues you can run his pitch count up but if he has unusual control he will start the k train. Some hitters are just not comfortable working the count. Seager seems like a first pitch swinger but the league knows that as well. So, it is a constant battle if your the hitter trying to get your pitch and staying ahead in the count. Do not go out of the strike zone. For the pitcher it’s a constant battle of trying to stay ahead in the count and get the hitter to swing at your pitch.

    1. T
      great point on Seager. If a hitter like Seager tends to swing at almost every 1st pitch, then the pitcher will tend to throw a pitch he can’t hit. How do you get Seager to change that habit is frustrating battle.

    2. 0 strikes – 1 pitch, one spot
      1 strike – choose a half of the plate, look fastball, adjust off-spead in that zone
      2 strikes – defend the plate and look for good contact

  22. Were have been blessed in SoCal… Heading up the list with Vin we had the sweet play by play of Chick Hearn (Going from left to right on your radio dial) and I’ve been told we have a a helluva announcer for Kings hockey… Nope, it don’t get any better than that!!!

  23. You’re absolutely right Mark, there is nothing deceptive about using the term “milk” with almond, coconut, soy, etc. Only a moron would be unable to understand the difference between those milks and traditional cows’ milk. But unlike you I drink and like Almond milk. Also drink Cashew milk as well. As for water softeners, I don’t have a clue.

  24. I’m calling it now. Jeter Downs will make Gavin Lux expendable. This guy has impressed me all spring, and what a great 9 pitch walk to tie the game. I see him batting 2nd for us for years.

    1. Well, Bobby, I guess you’ve fine tuned your crystal ball to make a prediction like that on such a small sample size. Kudos to your brilliant proclamation. Will he make the 25 man roster this season?

          1. no Jeff, he won’t make the 25 man roster this season.

            Thanks for the kudos; appreciate the constant value you bring to this board.

  25. Let me remind everyone here, only Bobby still believed in this team, when they were at their worse last year, early in the season, if you remember how bad they looked, and how bad their record was at the time.

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