The Dodgers Bullpen has pitched 36.2 innings in the playoffs this year. The Braves bullpen has pitched 23.2 innings. The Dodgers bullpen is tired. Let me remind you that many of your mocked and ridiculed me when I suggested resting the pitchers the last two weeks of the season and concede the division to the Giants. I wanted to win the WAR, not the battle. Well, they did not do it my way and the Dodgers staff is gassed! I TOLD YOU SO!
Eric says that Doc doesn’t always pay attention to splits, and reverse splits. What do you wanna’ bet that Doc has access to about 100 times more info on splits than we will ever have? We are rank amateurs while the Dodger analytic staff makes him a professional.
About two weeks ago, Dodgers Nation wrote this:
Believe it or not, this is Julio Urias’s fifth postseason with the Dodgers. The 25-year-old was dominant during last year’s championship run as both a starter and a reliever. Urias could once again be used in a dual role in the 2021 playoffs.
No one – I mean NO ONE thought that was a bad idea at the time. In fact, Julio did not throw a bullpen session over the weekend so that he could be ready, in case he was needed. If Julio would have struck out the side, no one would have said a word, but the fact that it didn’t, enabled some people to feel that they were smarter because they could use their circular thinking to make them feel that they are actually more qualified than a major league manager, who happens to work for a guy who has what is probably the best analytics department in baseball with a thousand times more information at his fingertips than any fan.
By the way, if anyone wants to debate that, give me your point and I will give you my counter-point. I can do it all day long. There are reasons not to pitch Julio and they are reasons to pitch him… unless you are blinded by circular thinking!
If you hate your life or feel underappreciated, it is also a way to give yourself a false sense of being intelligent… more intelligent than the manager. Of course, it was circular thinking that led to that conclusion, but who cares? Well, I do. I did not like the move either, but if it had worked it was not an issue with me and if it didn’t I would be a miserable second-guesser… and yes, second-guessers are a miserable group. It was a decision that was made. That’s all it was!
The fact that any move works does not necessarily make it a smart move. Sometimes it’s just luck or chance. The same is true if a move doesn’t work. The fact that it doesn’t work does not necessarily make it a bad move. Again, chance and circumstance are involved. I may be a little different from many of you in the fact that I have to make many decisions every day. I try and get a consensus of my managers and employees, I gather all the data and analytics and try and make rational well-reasoned decisions, but on any given day, half the people think I am dumb! It comes with the territory.
Sometimes the result of that decision is not readily apparent. Sometimes it takes weeks or months for the results to be known. I make some right decisions and I make some mistakes. The same is true with Dave Roberts. Does the fact that you disagreed with his decision make it a dumb or wrong decision? It’s more likely that if you think it was dumb, that you are the dumb one. Why? Let’s deal with the instant “dumb move” – putting Julio Urias into the game in the 8th inning. I guarantee you that Dave Roberts talked to Andrew Friedman and the Front Office about it. Dave talked to Julio about it and Dave talked to his staff about it. THAT’S WHAT THEY DO. THat’s how they operate. There is no right or wrong to this move. It’s a move! Feel free to disagree, but it’s not always right or wrong. It’s subjective.
It was not a flip, off-the-wall move, but it was reasoned out by a group of people, not just Dave Roberts. The Dodgers do not do things like that. So, the fact that you think it was a dumb move is circular reasoning that has no basis in fact. It was dumb because you are mad the Dodgers lost and you think you know better because you are unhappy with your lot in life at work (home, wherever) and that causes you to want to excel at something. So you criticize the decision and your misery gains company because there are lots of miserable people like you. Maybe…
By the way, even though the Dodgers bullpen has been exposed by the number of innings pitched, their ERA is just 2.21. I know that many of you think they should have a 0.00 ERA if it wasn’t for that “stupid Roberts.” A 2.21 ERA is really, really good for that number of innings. You can’t be a dumbass and manage a bullpen to that ERA… and the bullpen WHIP is 0.79!
The real problem is the hitting… or total lack thereof. However, yesterday, most of you focused on blaming Doc. Doc does not hit… and of course, his players did not either. Among the four teams left in the playoffs, the Dodgers have the worst batting average (.215) of all the teams. They have scored the least amount of runs and are tied with Atlanta for the fewest HR’s. They have the second-best OB% of the four teams and lead all teams in Walks. They just can’t hit. You people are losing your minds about subjective pitching choices while the offense is the issue. Quit Fiddling while Rome is Burning!
Of course, some other morons will post articles or blogs saying the same thing that you are saying, and rest assured: The World is FULL of Circular-Thinking Fools! Thank you, but I have a brain and will think for myself. This lack of offense is troublesome and something will be done if the season ends prematurely. That said, these guys can still go off! Right about now, my idea of resting the pitching staff the last two weeks of the season looks pretty good. Actually, that was just my opinion. There is no right or wrong to it. People second guess and engage in circular thinking because they have been conditioned to think there are right and wrong answers to everything. Life is not like that, but the sports world and this nation is full of people who think they have the right answers and if you disagree, you are wrong. It’s black and white, up and down, left and right, red and blue, and evil and good. There is no middle ground.. and that is very foolish! I suggest we focus on reality and quit inventing strawmen.
That said, it is a free country and you can do what you want. I will silence those who are vulgar, nasty, and obnoxious, but if you want to use the circular thinking that “Everyone knows Dave Roberts is a bad manager and the fact that he put in Julio Urias proves it” Lunacy, then expect to be called out for that kind of circular BS.
People criticize others for many reasons, such as the following:
- Because of Jealousy – When someone feels jealous of someone else, he might feel like putting him down. People might criticize others just because they are jealous of them.
- To Feel Good About Themselves – Some people criticize others to feel good about themselves. The desire to feel better than others can motivate psychologically unbalanced people to criticize others.
- Because They were Criticized as Children – If a person grew up in a home where he was always criticized, he will do the same to people. The voices inside that person’s head will keep repeating themselves and as a result he will spit his thoughts out in the form of criticizm.
- Because They are Mean – Mean people criticize others with the goal of making them feel bad about themselves. Mean people know that criticism hurts and so they use it to hurt others.
- Because They want to Show Power – Sometimes a person will criticize another person just to demonstrate his or her power.
- Because They want to Demonstrate Their Knowledge – Some people criticize others to demonstrate their knowledge and to prove that they know more.
- Because They want to deny Their own Flaws – Some people accuse others of things they themselves do, in order to deny their own flaws. It’s very common for a hypocrite (racist, bigot) to say that other people are hypocrites, racists or bigots. By saying so he prevents himself from ever seeing his own personal flaws.
- Because They want to Release Hatred -When a person hates someone he might criticize him in order to release some of the hatred present towards that person.
There. I have said my piece and I guess I am guilty of criticizing the criticizers. I am sorry- it is not for the purpose of offending. It is to help you grow. I realize most of the criticizers will blow this off, but if it helps just one to see the folly, then my job is done.
Now – Let’s Roll!
People can change.
Kind of ironic; after a whole season of complaints about the bullpen being bad, it’s the starters that are causing problems in post season.
The starters have done well in the postseason and the regular season, as has the bullpen
The bigger problem has been lack of hitting.
Dodger pitching and Dave Roberts decisions were good enough to win these two games.
I’m with you. Two one run losses and people are losing their minds. Both games could have easily gone the other way.
R-E-L-A-X
It’s just baseball. All those guys are millionaires and most of them wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.
84% chance Atlanta wins this thing. There was a better chance we win Game 2 leading after 7 and look how that ended.
We need to get even first. That can happen IF we start hitting. Hitting is what we do. We don’t field we’ll and we don’t run the bases well. But we can pitch and we can hit. We do both those things well a base running blunder or a defensive gaffe won’t matter.
We’re actually a very good baserunning team…
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2021-baserunning-batting.shtml
….”wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.”
Colorful but not like this version.
Wouldn’t piss up your ass if your guts were on fire.
Speaking of fallacies…
“Eric says that Doc doesn’t always pay attention to splits, and reverse splits. What do you wanna’ bet that Doc has access to about 100 times more info on splits than we will ever have? We are rank amateurs while the Dodger analytic staff makes him a professional.” is an “Appeal to authority” fallacy. Just because Doc has access to the information, doesn’t necessarily mean he’s making the right decision using it, or that he fully understands it.
“Let me remind you that many of your mocked and ridiculed me when I suggested resting the pitchers the last two weeks of the season and concede the division to the Giants. I wanted to win the WAR, not the battle. Well, they did not do it my way and the Dodgers staff is gassed! I TOLD YOU SO!” is a slippery slope fallacy. Just because the Dodgers didn’t fold and rest pitchers doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the reason they’re gassed. Remember what Orel did in 88. The Red Sox had to battle for a Wild Card all the way to the end and they’re doing pretty well and the Dodgers have the second lowest ERA of all playoff teams.
“The real problem is the hitting… or total lack thereof. However, yesterday, most of you focused on blaming Doc. Doc does not hit… and of course, his players did not either. Among the four teams left in the playoffs, the Dodgers have the worst batting average (.215) of all the teams. ” is a Cherry picking fallacy. Yes, the Dodgers have the worst batting average of all teams remaining, but they’ve also faced the best pitching since the playoffs started. MLB.com has their team post-season batting ave listed as (.233) whereas the Braves are listed as (.237).
Wow, that was almost as fun as my logic and reasoning college courses. Can you do some Venn diagrams next? Those were my favorites.
I’m not sure the point of all this. You say that people make good moves and bad moves. This is reasonable since no one is infallible. At the same time, I can hardly remember you calling out a bad move by Roberts this year. But, you sure call out everyone who criticizes any move he makes.
However, I agree with you about Julio, in a sense. He’s done this before, and Max was used in a similar fashion with success to close out the Giants series. But, you say all the pitchers are burned out. Knowing that one of your starters has dead arm after recently being used in the same role, how can you defend doing it again with Julio and at the same time say the reason the pitching is faltering is because of the lack of rest down the stretch? Talk about circular. What about winning the war? Is that not applicable to a postseason series?
I think the last game was a case of Doc managing with his data instead of his eyes. Graterol was just fine, why not close out the inning? Treinen looked great, why not use him for two ahead of an off day? Why can you trust Bickford and Bruihl in the beginning of a bullpen game, but not at the end of a game?
In the end, the worst move wasn’t anything related to the pitching. It was having Souza in RF with a two run lead in the 8th.
It’s a 2PM day game at Chavez Ravine today in a must win game. Big game Bueller is on the hill against the Dodgers favorite punching bag, Charlie Morton. A couple of TBD’s are scheduled for tomorrow. Does it make more sense to do the bullpen game tomorrow or on Thursday after we even up the series?
Graterol was just fine, why not close out the inning? Roberts decided to go down with his best. Can’t fault that choice. Not using Trienen a second inning is a valid complaint.
MP, you left out or glossed over the premise of the paragraph. “I think the last game was a case of Doc managing with his data instead of his eyes.”
Maybe instead of going with your best isn’t the right option if the guy you have in there is getting the job done. He went with his best with Urias and Jansen and both let him down. He took out 2 very good pitchers who were already pitching very good to use his best when they clearly weren’t at their best.
Grateral has had a good post season. He also has trouble missing bats. Roberts went with his closer. Jansens been very good for awhile now. It didn’t work out. Which was better the results say stay with Grateral but we’ll never know. I really don’t care which option they were both defensible. Didn’t gloss over anything just say either option can be justified, end of story.
Lets win today and see what happens. I like our chances, We played bad the first 2 games and could have won both easily.
I dont like the 2PM local start time why not have Red-Sox Astros play a 5PM local start for them and 5PM local start in LA…
Oh well, win the day!!!
yep. pretty simple now. win today.
“Eric says that Doc doesn’t always pay attention to splits, and reverse splits.”
Sometimes his pitching decisions go against the splits.
“What do you wanna’ bet that Doc has access to about 100 times more info on splits than we will ever have?”
I bet his info comes to the same conclusion that my info comes to. Stats are stats. 99% of the time they all line up with the same conclusion. It is VERY rare they don’t.
I’m not blaming Doc for game 2 loss. Let me make that very clear. It was a team loss from not hitting with runners in scoring position to certain defensive plays (yes I did just say defense) to the bullpen.
Julio Urias has reverse splits not only this year but also in his career. There were better options such as Corey Knebel who has reverse splits this year and his career, and Justin Bruihl. Although Bruihl’s stats are a small sample.
But again it was a team loss, not a Julio Urias loss.
Also Julio Urias bailed out the bullpen last year in the postseason and in my opinion should have been co-MVP with Corey Seager.
A little boy goes to the Statistics department of a university to find out how much 2+2 equals. The professors answers “ how much do you want it to be”? There are stats and then there are stats.
Mark, that was some wild ride there. I think it’s safe to say that none of us here have access to facts concerning decisions made by the front office and the coaching staff. When Urias came in I thought it was an interesting move, but didn’t understand the thinking behind it. Enlightened by Roberts after the game he said “He hadn’t thrown a bullpen and he was the best option at that point in time,” Roberts said. “He was prepared for it. It was a perfect spot for him, and getting him through that eighth to go to to finish the game.” What a pile of BS. The best option? The perfect spot? Please, just stop. A move like that had probably been made before the game started and Urias was going to come in to pitch if the game was close. I doubt that Roberts and the coaches had made that decision on their own. But, that’s just my opinion. Reflecting back to last year and Urias’s success out of the BP in the playoffs I thought OK, but why when you had Treinen who could have gone another inning, Graterol, and Kenley available? There wasn’t a “what the hell?” moment we’ve all had with some of Roberts past BP moves in the playoffs. It was more of a “OK it’s not something I considered, but let’s see what happens”. Again, reflecting on Urias’s success in the playoffs last year. It didn’t work out. The move deserved criticism. But, just the right kind of criticism.
Getting back to your rant Mark it was all over the place. The blog is a place for the expression of opinions. Logical opinions, nonsensical opinions, fantasy opinions, factual (in their own mind) opinions, and all other types of opinions. And, again, opinions you don’t agree with the poster is a moron, idiot, etc because they didn’t use your thought process when coming to their opinion. All your reasoning behind your “opinions” are well thought out and correct in your mind. Isn’t that what most people who post here think as well? That’s what I think about most of the opinions I include here. But, other people might read them and think I’m a moron or idiot or just plain uninformed. I know I do with some of the posts I read here. But, who cares. They took the time to contribute and make this site interesting. This site is far superior to other Dodger sites and I think better than most of the local and national media who cover baseball and/or the Dodgers.
If this bounce off the wall, all over the place rant was to stir up conversation, well you got me again. With the demographics of this site to be mostly likely to be +55 I don’t think what you wrote is going to change anyone’s approach on how they express their opinions. But, nice try.
Carry on.
Oh yeah. If the Dodgers don’t increase their offensive production then all the opinions on how our outstanding starting pitching and solid BP are used is irrelevant.
If this is truly Mark’s swan song for this blog, maybe he has decided to let it all out before he sails away into the wild blue…..
I did not say one cannot give their opinion, but if it sucks, I will call it out.
I did not like Doc using Urias either, but today that makes him a bad manager is moronic!
… and yes – we try and incite rioting here.
what do you think this is ……….. PORTLAND?
Mark, one thing you are not right about is, nobody is as miserable as me! I stand alone here and I am XLNT!!
Dodgers will win these next 3 games @Dodger Stadium. And then just 1 more and I won’t be able to claim my misery championship.
Do you realize the absurdity of your first sentence? You seriously have to be kidding at this point Mr Timmons. We’re laughing with you, not at you.
This was a good post.
What you described are exactly the reasons why I’m not a huge, all-on-board the Roberts Train fan, even though I generally think he’s good for the team.
1. They rely on these fancy scripts they pre-plan. Roberts does not REACT to the moment, but relies on The Script. You’re right about Treinen. If he’s particularly sharp in this particular instance, what are you accomplishing by taking him out? Ok, good lefty against a bunch of lefties coming up, I guess.
2. Roberts is a good press secretary and a public relations dissembler. He can’t just explain why they did such and such and then own up to the reality that it didn’t work. He has to defend The Script. He deflects and sometimes lies (remember when he said Ethier was perfectly fine and would play the next day only to have to admit he had a broken leg and would miss the season?) People lying to me and insulting my intelligence is a huge pet peeve of mine.
Well, at least I hope Mark feels better now. It’s always good to vent.
But I’d rather talk about baseball….
What do you think of my suggestions to:
1. Bench TT since he is 1-9 with 5 Ks lifetime against Morton and is clearly slumping? Play Lux at 2B
2. Do not play Pollock. He is 0-11 against Morton and can’t hit the slider from a good pitcher. Play CT, Beaty and Mookie out there.
Thoughts?
TM
It sure seems like Pollock is in a platoon until he starts hitting. He’ll play against lefties and Morton is a righty. Im my mind, that decision has already been made. So, it comes down to whether or not you think Beaty’s bat is going to make up for Turner’s defence and if you want to play Lux at second when he hasn’t played there in over a month.
If you do go with Beaty, it would make more sense to have him at 1B where he’s at least passable. That moves Belli back into Center Field.
Personally, I wouldn’t make that decision based on small sample sizes. If you did want to run the team like it’s fantasy baseball and on small sample sizes, I guess you can make the case to start Trea Turner over Corey Seager. If you want to go down the line based on hitter vs pitcher stats, you’re lineup would look something like this…
Mookie Betts RF
Gavin Lux 2B
JT 3B
Matt Beaty LF
Albert Pujols 1B
Cody Bellinger CF
Trea Turner SS
Austin Barnes C
What a mess that would be.
That’s the long answer. The short answer is you don’t sit the MLB batting champ.
I don’t like the strikeouts last game. He chased pitches well out of the zone for all three. I do like the hard contact in his other two AB’s. When he stayed in the zone, he crushed two balls. One was 341 feet at 99 exit velo and the other was 382 at 105.
I think you just have to trust him to stay in the zone. I wouldn’t want to be the manager after losing game three when you sit the batting champ and MVP candidate in favor of a bench player.
Nor would I want to be the guy to do that IF they are serious about keeping him on the team long term IMO.
cheers
pb+
I’m just going to point out, no one agreed with you regarding TT. Even though you posted this suggestion 3 times. Especially odd suggestion since you were the biggest proponent for trading for him in the first place.
TM,
I like your thoughts. But I don’t think TT will be benched. I would like to see ‘no hit in post season Pollock’ benched. But don’t see him starting Beaty. More likely Lux in outfield.
And yes If Mark just stuck to posting about baseball…… But must be something from his youth that makes it necessary that he must always be right.
Oh Mark you are always right and can’t wait to tell everyone how WRONG they were. Poor guy I think you need to be cuddled. If Julio can’t pitch game 4 was it still a good decision? It doesn’t matter if he would have gotten out of the 8th unscathed was it really worth it to possibly lose your game 4 starting pitcher when our closer has pitched a total of 4 innings all postseason?
It pisses people that I am right so frequently.
If Julio can’t pitch in Game 4 are you say it was because he skipped his bullpen session and threw 14 pitches in Game 2?
1. Do you have data (facts) to back up your opinion that you’re right so frequently?
2. To have Roberts/FO say that a bullpen session is equal to pitching in relief in the eighth inning of a playoff game when he hadn’t so all season is at best a naive statement at best and absurd at the worst. Another ridiculous Robertsism. Whether he is available for game four didn’t cross their minds. Just have a BP game for game four even though we could be down 3-0. That way we’ll have Urias, Scherzer, and Buehler for games 5-7. Wait. What? The Dodgers got swept in four. Yeah, but we have our three Cy Young award nominees ready to go.
Really? OK, next year. Not a fact, but just an opinion.
Carry on.
TT will play and will have a big game…just a hunch. Pollock will sit the bench the rest of the series. That guy can’t hit a slider nor can he lay off one. I’ve seen enough of his futile AB’s this post season where he just seems to go into “swing at all costs mode” and looks horrible. He looks nothing like the player we saw during the season which brings me to JT.
He has to step up now! Other than his HR against Wainwright in the WC card he has done nothing. He’s showing his age with a very slow bat and some poor defense (Chris Bryant should have never been on 1b in the game #5 of the DS). They said he had a “stinger” and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but he’s now had two full days of rest sans a PH/HBP AB and he has to put the team on his back and be the captain.
My line-up:
Betts RF
TT 2b
Seager SS
Smith C
Cody 1B
JT 3B
Lux CF
CT3 LF
Striker. P
Am I circular reasoning here or just being a passionate fan with some insight? Label me as you see fit, but I don’t need to show my superior critical thinking skills on a baseball blog. I often watch baseball with my heart and perhaps not my brain like most Dodger fans and I’m OK with that!
I love that lineup! Let’s do it.
I like it too, but note that you did not tie it to “If Doc doesn’t play this lineup, he’s a bad manager.”
Love or hate Doc, that is FUNNY.
I sure hope you are right NorCal…….We especially need our 3 hitter to hit.
Close, Betts, Seager, Turner, Smith, JT, Lux, Bellinger, Taylor, Buehler.
Actually, just to throw a wrinkle in here if getting nitpicky.
Betts RF
TT 2b
Seager SS
Smith C
Cody 1B
JT 3B
CT3 LF
Lux CF
Striker. P
This way if they choose to bring in a lefty to face Lux or Belli, they will have to face two righties. With Seager, I don’t think it matters as much.
The lineup I posted is the one on the website. It is set
Fan short for Fanatic. So logic need not be part of the equation
The Dodgers are now saying that Julio may not be ready for game 4. How does that make you feel about the decision to use him in game 2 and bypass relief pitchers who have been effective were rested and ready??
Every day I come to the blog anxious to see who Mark is going to criticize that day. It’s as predictable as the sunrise. Start out by building a straw man and beating it to death. Then on to something related to baseball. I come here for the information about the Dodgers and there are many really good and interesting comments. However, if you don’t express the “correct” opinions you get to be the headliner in the next lead article. It is the reflection of our “woke” society. If someone disagrees with me I have the duty to criticize and attack them, and then silence them.
All of us express opinions. They are just that, opinions and should be debated and discussed. Funny how the chief criticizor loves to citicize the other criticizors
campy,
Well Mark has said he will be ‘retiring’ from the blog. So we just have to put up with it a little longer until we beat Boston in WS. There are many good writers and good baseball minds posting here, including Mark. Can’t wait to just talk about Baseball!!!
As noted, Julio skipped a BP session to throw 14 pitches. Could easily be that either way, they might have been waffling on him for game 4.
Well, I don’t think it matters if he pitches in game for or game 5. In fact, game 4 might be a bullpen game by both teams. I think a Urias, Scherzer, Bueller for the last three games makes sense right now in the position that we’re in after losing the first two.
I think Bear pointed this out a couple of days ago.
Mark , I was one of those who vehemently disagreed with your strategy of conceding the West to the Giants in the final weeks of the season. I believe that the Dodgers showed great CHARACTER , FIGHT and DETERMINATION in refusing to concede, even though they barely came up short. This is the same character, fight and determination they need NOW, being two games down , and these guys have shown they ain’t gonna quit . It’s way to early for ANYBODY to crow about I told you so’s. As a Dodger FAN , I RESPECT the way the Dodgers refused to concede the division, and ultimately ELIMINATED the Giants. As far as the Urias thing, why is it so monumentally difficult to admit Roberts made a move that didn’t work out??? Game two of a seven game series , with a team that has shown time and time again the ability to overcome adversity . As has been pointed out many times here by smart people, it was a TEAM LOSS and I would appreciate it if Roberts would take just a little little bit of responsibility when his decisions don’t work out. JUST SAY IT. All that said we are one win away from regaining momentum and going on to win this thing.
I see Marks Point and I actually asked on this blog if with 3 games left and 3 behind do we throw in the towel. The consensus was to quit and wait for the WC game. As you say the Dodgers went for it; good for them!
So Atlanta gets to play two home games under the lights before sell out fanatical crowds doing that ridiculous chop thing – and we get to play at a half empty Dodger Stadium at 2pm.
So much for home field advantage.
Thanks again Bob
Look at the bright side my friend in jolly olde England, the Dodgers won a WORLD SERIES with NOBODY in the stands.
Wrong, there were 12,000 fans in the stands in Texas for each World Series game. They played the entire season with no one in the stands and fake cheers coming from the sound system. Tell me how easy that is to do.
Hmm. Yep I forgot there actually WERE some fans at the WS.. Back to the drawing board.Actually I even forgot it was in Texas. Ouch.
A very good point, I had not thought about the fact that the starting time will cut down the crowd here. Well, if they are determined to get the Dodgers out of the playoffs, I hope it will be worth it when the Atlanta vs. Boston numbers are about half of what a Los Angeles vs. Boston ratings would be. And they may have manged to get the two teams with the worst records going into the playoffs, into the World Series, with their unfair format.
NBC’s “Today” fact-checked Dr. Anthony Fauci’s claim that packed college football stadiums would be COVID-19 superspreader events, noting that his words have proven to be untrue. Fauci said that the SEC football games with nearly 100,000 fans in close proximity would be “SUPERSPREADER” Events. That has been untrue as the Souther States with huge SEC Stadiums have been experiencing dramatic declines in infection.
It is a crock of you know what! I can’t believe people want King Newsome in charge!
Fauchi, the same genius who said that gain of function research (making animal viruses more easily communicable and virulent to humans) “was worth the risk”.
Yes, OF COURSE he said that. He has a financial interest in all of this.
How does that even happen? rhetorical ????
Take a look at the states with the highest per capita infection rates. They are all from the Deep South, except North Dakota. Tennessee is highest right now. California may have the lowest. Let’s fervently hope it stays that way. It could just have something to do with policies, and the commitment of most of the people who live here.
Per California… and yet we still have mask mandates and just instituted vaccine mandates. I don’t think the infection rates are an worthy measure. How many tens of thousands of people never report an infection or are asymptomatic. Deaths per 1M would be the most concerning because of you know, death. Using that metric New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts are in the top ten. The other seven are in the deep south though.
you can chalk most of that to unhealthy living, not policies. morbid obesity is the biggest driver of death from this & is easily demonstrated. over 80% of deaths had at least one co-morbidity & the avg was a little over 2. and obesity was the largest co-morbidity followed by heart issues. the deep south has the highest rates of obesity … simple math.
Also, to add to that another example from the south would be FL, where you would expect them to be a “healthier southern state”, and have been lambasted for their fight against all mandates now have the 3rd lowest infection rate per capita. FYI
Absolutely ridiculous, and the narrative will be Dodger fans dont show up….a 2PM mid week game is very tough to attend if you have a job and if you dont you probably cant afford to go….
Just win the ball game today!!!
I would be surprised if Dodger Stadium is half empty for this game. In fact, I would be surprised if attendance is less than Atlanta’s stadium capacity.
I haven’t heard any estimates for this game, just a hunch.
I just checked the tickets available on the Dodgers.com site. There’s only a few hundred tickets available. I’m sure it will be loud and rocking full stadium today.
So, no one wants to bench TT….
How about move him down in the lineup to either 7 or 8?
He is not doing well with RISP and poor Mookie is not able to score many runs. We need our 3 hitter to hit and have RBIs.
So, are you still comfortable with TT batting 3rd?
As for me personally, I’d move him to 8 to take some pressure away….or I’d bat him first and put Mookie at the 3 hole.
Thoughts?
I like the idea of moving him down to take the pressure off him. He’s just too good a hitter to be doing so poorly right now.
How does a major league player who has been in the league 7 years and played in 29 post season games prior to this season have the pressure bother him? To be truthful, over 35 total playoff games including the 7 this season, he is only a .225 hitter in the post season anyway. He has 1 HR and 5 RBI’s in all those games. He has stolen 5 bases. He only hit .161 in DC’s World Series win over the Stros. Some players just do not do as well when the spotlight is on them. Pollock is under the Mendoza line in his career for the playoffs. He was ok against the Giants, but is 1-8 with 3 K’s this round. What is more disturbing is the total lack of production from JT. He has been as clutch as any Dodger player in their history. But he has been MIA this season except for the game tying HR in the Wild Card game. The offense right now is stagnant, leaving way too many runners on base and missing golden opportunities to put games out of reach. You keep a team like the Braves in the game and you are going to lose. They are not dropping Turner down in the order for the simple reason that with his speed and power, he can change a game immediately. You saw that when he doubled to drive in Mookie. I think the team will be a lot looser playing at home. Remember, most of this team has been here before. They know what they have to do. One game at a time, win today, win tomorrow and things will look a lot better than they do right now. Lose today, then you have a real dilemma.
I hope you are right.
And i will do my best to refrain myself if we lose and TT’s lack of clutch hits was a large part of the hitting woes. I’d rather he make me eat my words for suggesting we either bench him or drop him to 8 in the order. But to be honest, I think we probably see another 0fer.
Clutch hits do not always drive in runs, sometimes they just get the party started. And they can be overlooked a lot. In the WS last year, game 6, they were totally overmatched until Barnes hit what most thought was a harmless single. But the Rays manager over reacted, pulled his starter and Betts hit a double down the line on the first pitch. Wild pitch, and infield out and Dodgers up 2-1 never to be headed.
I would move him up to second so he can concentrate on getting on base. Let Seags, JT, Smith and Belli drive in the runs.
Actually that makes MUCH more sense!!!
I have seen a lot of baseball; some have seen more, some less. For my part, this was one of the strangest decisions I have ever seen in the playoffs: taking out your best or second best relief pitcher after nine pitches , to put in the pitcher who was going to start Game 4, so he could pitch one inning, ostensibly because there were lefthanded hitters coming up; and then leaving him in after giving up two hits, and and with a righthanded hitter coming up, who drove in the tying run.
And saying that ‘Urias was the best option at the time,” is both questionable, plus it ignores the other factors about the rest of the game, the series going forward, what you are going to do in the next inning. It exuded desperation, though they certainly did not look at it that way. We have a two-run lead, two innings to go, and we now have to put a starting pitcher, the Game 4 starter, in to pitch the eighth? And when he gives up two hits, and obviously does not look near his best, you leave him in–because it was the preconceived plan? The end result was that our so-called set-up man pitched one inning, nine pitches, and our closer pitched to one batter. And we lost a 4-2 lead and the game. If that is considered good managing, then I don’t know what so-called bad managing might look like.
Do people come into things with preconceived opinions, and then look for evidence to support them? Of course, and it goes both ways, for and against. But to propose that every perception is hopelessly biased because of preconceptions, would mean that there was no empirical reality, just a bunch of opinions, none better than the other. I don’t think that is true.
Well, we have a game to win today, and we can certainly still win the series; though if Urias is not ready for game 4, that is a hindrance, but I guess we can start the opener again, and throw Gonsolin in for a few more bad innings, and go from there. Teams have certainly rallied from down 2-0, we did it against the Braves last year. But I will still think that Roberts made a ridiculous, because unnecessary, decision in the last game, and I felt that way the minute I realized that he was going to take Treinen out and put Urias in for a whole inning.
I don’t mind a move like that that doesn’t work out. I don’t blame Roberts one iota for the gambit. But why anyone would not just admit that it failed and that Roberts blundered , that yes , Roberts is not infallible, ( oh sh*t, I said it!) I don’t get that.
Of all the players in this Post-Season, Kike Hernandez has the most At Bats (36). He also has the most hits (18). If you are mathematically challenged, that is a .500 BA. He has a 1.541 OPS and is slugging 1.028. He has 5 HR and 4 doubles. Freddy Freeman is 4 for 21 with 11 strikeouts.
Go figure.
I could admire the Bosox, if it wasn’t for that eternal villain CORA being there. Also, the theme of circular reasoning reminds me of that old hit by the O’JAYS, “Going Around on Circles”.
Bold statement:
If Kike and Joc would still be with us we would be up 2-0 instead of down 0- 2.
Dodgers underestimated their value to our roster.
Go Dodgers!
We were down 3-1 last year to this Braves team with both of them on the team. Talk about circular logic.
And last year they had both Acuna and Ozuna. And do not pooh pooh the loss of Muncy. It has been a huge blow to this team.
How many more times do I have to hear how much we miss Joc and Kike and how well they are doing with their new teams? This lament is useless and a total waste of time. Duggy and Kike especially have been key starters for Boston. Good for them. Had Kike been with the Dodgers he would still be a utility player battling CT3 for innings. CT3 was arguably our MVP the first 1/2 and an all-star. He’s a big plus for the Dodgers.
Joc hit .190 last year strictly as a platoon guy. He couldn’t touch left-handed pitching, was fat, lazy and looked disconnected until the playoffs. He’s an asset in the post season but little help gettin there. So what role would he have on this Dodger team?
All of these ex-Dodgers have taken advantage of fresh starts elsewhere. Good for them. I’m happy for them. But they are long gone and I’m not interested in speculation how things would be different if they had stayed and I’m sick of that conversation. Move on!
So true, & I cannot post enough that Kike clearly stated it was Cora that convinced him to go there. After being one of the most vocal about the cheating. Joc? he is currently just an ad for a bad haircut IMO.
I loved them when they were here, and hope we now crush their dreams.
cheers
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I absolutely hated losing both, especially Kike.
When the year started I didn’t care about Pollock. He fooled me and did pretty well, but I will say this again…..which guy is the guy you want in October?
Kike and Joc have shown me plenty….
Pollock…..?
Kike & Joc are yesterday’s news. They are now the enemy. Simple as that. You can appreciate what they have done for us, but getting all melancholy about them is just an emotional waste. Joc wanted a “sort of” guarantee of being an every day player. There was not, and frankly is still not a place for that person here. As noted, Kike would have been taking CT3 starts & looking at him being our 1st half mvp, he is also just someone to be melancholy about, but really was never going to get what he wanted to stay here.
cheers
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Me: “Although I can understand the reasoning behind why the Dodgers opted to put in Urias in that situation, I think the front office and Roberts are overthinking things to a fault. The bullpen has been incredibly solid for the past 2.5 months and Roberts had lots of options. Why change things up now just to be cute?”
Timmons: “You are a hateful, mean, jealous person who wasn’t hugged enough as a child by your mom and you’re just trying to deny your own flaws and racism and misogyny by projecting your knowledge as a means to demonstrate your power as a compensatory mechanism to try to feel good about yourself.”
Me: “Huh?”
Timmons: “… and anyone who disagrees with the above is obviously guilty of the above …but, just to be clear, this is definitely NOT circular reasoning … at all.”
Oh well! I guess you got me! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LOL … btw, I realize it wasn’t directed at me specifically, but … really? Anyway, let’s have fun with it.
“What do you wanna’ bet that Doc has access to about 100 times more info on splits than we will ever have? We are rank amateurs while the Dodger analytic staff makes him a professional.”
I’m sure he does. Does that make his decision making infallible? Does that mean, as knowledgeable fans, we are not allowed to question potentially fallible decisions? This is what’s called the Appeal to Authority fallacy. Being in a position of leadership or authority or having a credential does not guarantee a person is right. It usually helps that a person is an expert or is knowledgeable about a certain subject and conveys credibility, but lay people still need to hold them accountable. It’s why it is wise to get second opinions when you get medical care. It’s why, IMO, no one should be listening to word from Fauci anymore. It’s why, IMO, the near religious veneration people have for Tony Baloney is another great example of the Appeal to Authority fallacy …and also a hefty dose of group think.
And actually, your whole post today, if I may respectfully opine, is one big giant fallacious argument. The important point – and this is they key – is that you’re NOT attacking the ARGUMENT with which you disagree. You are attacking THE PERSON making the argument with which you disagree. You operate on the foundation that the opposing argument is already naturally wrong, so you’re ascribing motivations and reasons why your interlocuter has such naturally wrong arguments. It must be because he was criticized as a child or is racist …or whatever.
This is a great example of circular reasoning, or more accurately ad hominem used to create a circle. I would add this kind of argument is the single most destructive thing that is contributing to the social polarization we are facing in this country. It’s not just that those people from that other political party are wrong on policy, it’s that they are racist, misogynist, want to kill grandma, hate science … and on and on. No one addresses that actual substance of the disagreements. Ever. …. and it will destroy us.
So, back to baseball, as disappointing as the results the last two games, I don’t really blame manager decisions. If anything, you could argue that the Braves were the team doing stupid stuff. Advancing to 2nd base on a flyout was pretty reckless …. but it worked b/c Pollock didn’t execute the throw. Sending Albies home was a pretty reckless move, but he made a perfect slide and What’s-His-Name in right field took about 10 seconds to uncork his throw to the plate. He didn’t double clutch. I think he quadruple clutched. Betts would have nailed him …probably … but you never know with playoff baseball.
This is playoff baseball, and why it’s so different from the regular season. It’s single plays, either executed or not executed, that decide the outcome.
And the word of the day is…… interlocuter. Who’d of thought that would be used in a baseball blog.
I will make this simple and refrain from multi-syllabic utterances. I agree with the right of people to disagree and in the present case, to disagree with EVERY SINGLE DECISION Doc makes. The thinking becomes circular when they start with a premise, then use whatever “bad decision” Doc may have made (bad in their eyes) and then use that to “prove” their circular reasoning.
It’s not the decision I agree or disagree with. It’s the premise. Tommy Lasorda (my favorite manager, BTW) never made the playoffs more than 2 years in a row, and look at all the decisions he made – pitching to Ozzie, Clark, leaving Neidenfurer in, et al that could be questioned… but no one said “Because he left Neidenfurer in he is a bad manager.”
What is the difference between Doc and Tommy:
1. The media has changed;
2. The internet is here.
I would be the last one to play the race or bigot card, but I did list it as a reason for engaging in circular thinking… because it is! If it doesn’t apply, so be it. I never suggested it did.
Finally, when people disagree with me, they may do it one at a time, but maybe a hundred people will do it, so when I come back and throw something in their face, it’s not one person it is directed at – It’s all of them! And… it is precise because I don’t need hugs that I am not afraid to confront anyone head on!
BTW, I didn’t take today’s post personally, and I hope most didn’t and I understand that you need to prod a little and put stuff out there that’s …. out there … to generate a lively discussion. I would make a request, however. I would avoid using the race card, especially to even obliquely suggest someone’s opinions on Roberts are in any way motivated by racism. The obsessive cultish fixation on racism everywhere is so socially destructive. You should know this better than most people based on your own personal experience.
Today’s 5pm ET Lineup:
Career vs C. Morton
HITTERS H-AB RBI HR K AVG
M. BettsRF 7-24 1 1 1 .292
C. SeagerSS 0-2 0 0 1 .000
T. Turner2B 1-9 1 0 5 .111
W. SmithC 0-2 0 0 1 .000
J. Turner3B 4-10 2 0 1 .400
G. LuxCF 1-2 0 0 0 .500
C. Bellinger1B 1-5 0 0 0 .200
C. TaylorLF 1-3 0 0 1 .333
W. BuehlerP 0-2 0 0 2 .000
Well TM, I guess we all knew that was coming.
Yeah, that’s fine. I’m just an armchair manager, no pressure. Doc’s decisions will be scrutinized and picked apart by every LA fan if we lose….lots of pressure.
Interestingly, 538 still gives us a 36% chance of winning the LCS, and Fan Graphs gives us a 30% chance. That tells you how talented this team is, based on prior performance. We still have a 1 in 3 chance of taking the league championship, despite being down 2-0. My personal take on this is that it is extremely hard to repeat as WS-champions, because baseball often hinges on the little things, especially in a limited number of games, like a playoff series. Having said that, we still have a shot at winning this.
I think that it is legitimate to criticize a manager’s decision. It seems short-sighted to have used Julio. I do agree, though, that the big problem here is the dismal hitting except for Mookie, Will, and, amazingly, Belli (to a lesser degree).
The big question for tonight is will they hit Charlie Morton, who is probably the Braves’ best pitcher? I am still optimistic.
Life always intervenes. I found out this morning that a good friend and a great musician passed away earlier this month. Music and baseball, my two passions. Bonnie’s passion was country music, and he was playing it right up to the end at age 79. He self taught himself how to play lead guitar. He had always played rhythm before that, and he did that at age 70. He was a fun guy to be around and even more fun to pick with. He had a great sense of humor and could be counted on to tell a few really bad jokes. At a Pickin on the Porch get together he made me totally lose it one time. I was singing Seven Spanish Angels and in the middle of the chorus he said, you sure they aren’t Italian?? He will be missed. RIP Bonnie Bond.
Sorry for the loss of your friend, Bear. Puts things in perspective.
Thanks David, I really appreciate it. I also found out that the wife of one of our members is battling terminal brain cancer. Was not a great morning.
Yankees extend Boone for 3 years. Yankee fans not really happy about that. The head football coach at WSU, Nick Rolovich and 4 of his assistant coaches were fired for refusing to get vaccinated.
Yanks also announced they are looking for a ss in free agency moving Torres to 2b.
CS should be on the top of their list.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!
If they do, maybe we should sign Carlos! 😉
Mark, you’re all right in my book, but including commenters in your main posts seems a bit petty and beneath a man of letters such as yourself.
It’s good to be king.
Again, I can respond to a hundred posts or do it into a group. I do it for efficiency.
There’s a lot to be decided between now and then, but Trea Turner is the contingency to Seager leaving. If Seager goes to the Yankees, Andrew Friedman will make sure that Cashman overpays just like with Cole. I am fine with that. It’s not a given that Scherzer is signable by the Dodgers – someone may really overpay.
I think that the Baseball Gods frown on teams who try and sign everyone.
With Buehler, Urias, Gonsolin, May, White, Pepiot, Miller, Knack, and others on the staff, Kershaw, Bauer and Scherzer being gone would not be the death of us.
Buehler, tired arm too?
edit ….. buehler owes lux a beer
Could that double play with 2 on , no out be the momentum changer we are looking for ?
Go Dodgers!!!!!!
I have always said that they are capable of just flipping the switch.
2 out 2 on.
This is where legends and winners are made!
Boston does Granny’s in the first. Why can’t LA?
Even a meek single would have been huge.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!
Man, once again we can not get the big hit to cash in. Had Morton on the ropes early and let him off the hook.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Two runs, great!!! …..but 3 more runners left …that’s not good. As the last 2 games with need more runs
I gotta say, and okay that it is just me, but a dude wearing a “pearl necklace” IS NOT a good look. Bad haircut & a pearl necklace.
I’ve seen this script before.
On top, chances to really make a statement, but not converting.
Let’s hope for a different outcome.
And that sports fans is one of the reasons we miss Max. Belli would have caught that ball. Lux is not a CF yet. Yep Watford, take the lead and then to not pile on.
well that cost AT LEAST one run ….. umps against us AGAIN
edit …… make that TWO runs
Make it two. Another soft hit ball that breaks a bat and goes into the outfield…at least we get the last at bat.
Well we got the early two runs out of the way. Time for the offense to resume its slumber. I hope that Buehler can resume his ace status quickly. Before I finished this, he gives up 2, so looks like maybe Ace Buehler is taking the day off.
Still, if the Dodgers hit, they win. If they don’t, they won’t.
A couple of bad calls before the Pederson single. K zone showed both of them were strikes and now the game is tied…….
I am convinced that the Baseball Gods are against us.
The inning should be over with no score. Instead, it is tied.
Well, that was Roberts’s fault anyway.
Man, man,man, what else can go wrong ? First Lux misplays it in CF, then the ump misses strike three and then another broken bat falls in for an rbi.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will now be the one to question Lux at center & not Mookie or CT. MANY have mentioned that, and I defer to all of you. You were correct.
And that mis-play in center seems to have really shook Buehler
I agree. But i would put Bellinger out there over everybody. Play Beaty at first. Shake things up. This is not working. If Buehler has a fault, it is when something goes wrong, he suddenly cannot find the strike zone. And that is the third walk of the inning. What a disaster. Had they piled on in the first instead of doing nothing, this might have looked different. This is beginning to have the feel of wait until next year. And it is embarrassing. A 110 win team getting schooled like this. Only one team in Major league history has come back from being down 3-0. The Red Sox.
They can call that a hit but that’s an E in my scorebook. Another advertisement for an automated K zone. Tough call on where to play Lux. It’s easier to get a read on the ball in CF but where can he cause the most harm. Probably CF as well. The Max Muncy injury just bit them in the ass. If Pollock wasn’t sucking so bad it wouldn’t be necessary to play Lux but they need some offense.
Right now, except for Mookie Betts, the entire lineup sucks
Not our year . I retire for today.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!
Something I harp on all the time. One bad call by the ump costs possibly 4 runs & chases our starter. ROBOUMPS anyone?
The sooner the better. But right now, the Braves are taking advantage of every break they get. Dodgers get 4 walks in the first and leave 3 men on base. They just are not executing in the crucial spots. This is on the offense too.
Totally agree. Just that that mistake by the ump seems & Lux’s error seem to have shaken everyone up.
I’m not a fan of Gavin lux. Maybe later he will turn into a good baseball player but for right now I’m not a fan. And this opinion is before he dropped that ball.
Lux was actually one of their hotter hitters going into the playoffs. Cannot blame it all on him. He is playing a position he has played for less than a month. Muncy being out has really thrown the lineup out of whack.
Small sample. His overall OPS for the season was under 700.
Small sample? Yeah, his major league career consists of 144 games. But he raised his average 11 points after he was recalled from the minors. His OPS in the second half was closer to .800. You might not like he guy, but the Dodgers do.
Something’s gotta break the Dodgers way.
Betts and Seager are 2=4 combined. Rest of the team is 0-10.
Trea Turner just refuses to take what they’re giving him. In the shift, they pitch him high and away, yet he refuses to go with the pitch.
Condolences to Bear I’ve been dealing with family and friend issues the past week myself like you said life intervenes.
What I can’t understand is that everybody including captain obvious realizes we have to change our approach.
I was hoping we would in this crucial game. But in Seagers second at bat with runners on hes swinging for the fences and he strikes out. And I thought no they haven’t learned
Instead of going the other way on waist high fast balls on the outside corner of the plate but still a strike,they take them
And then swing out of the zone and get themselves out. There’s still time but it’s running out
Man, Lux is devastated somebody needs to go over there and put their arm around the kids shoulder and tell him everything‘s gonna be OK it’s not his fault. Every shot in the dugout the kids just got a painful look on its face it’s hard to look at
Yeah, and the Dodgers need to step up and take that weight off him. Ain’t over by a long shot.
Lux was to blame for that play, but not that they are losing neither this game nor the series. it’s obvious the Braves have been better.
I hope things change, but please don’t start with the tiredness argument. Accept that Atlanta’s hitters and relievers have been better.
Maybe it was my perception but I saw Walker delivered after Joc’s hit and walked and he didn’t mind getting out of the game.
go Dodgers there is still time
do not mention starters because I think the Dodgers have been better, a little
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh My goodddddd….Bellinger for Presidente!!!!!!!!!!! Hope series changer Home run
It’s only fitting the kid deserves it
It may be time to move Belly to 4 or 5 in the lineup.
Oh My God!!!!!!
ON A HIGH FASTBALL!!!!!!!!
CIRCULAR Baserunning!
Lol! Best comment of the night.
Bellinger and Jansen! All the doubters line up behind me!!!!!!!
We hit, we win.
Never give up.
Lol. When I saw those fans leaving top of the 8th , that was a sign from above Dodgers would pull it out.
You know, they were talking about it. But then the stadium looked filled to me by the bottom of the 8th. I was thinking people were just grabbing a last beer & food since the game was somewhat depressing until then.
They stop selling beer at Dodger Stadium in the 7th inning. At least that has been the policy for years..
Call the parmedics!! Gdam baseball is gonna kill me!! Holy Cow!
Could not be happier for Belli. High, hard fb ……… BUHBYE.
cheers
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And I’m a huge Lux fan. Kids gonna be an all star. That sun was brutal today. So happy Belli took him off the hook!
There you go! I like it.
Wow! What a game. I’m sure Lux is happier than anyone. I’m glad he got let off the hook. He’s been put in a tough spot.
I think Roberts really F’d up game 2 but I will say I like the way they have run more this postseason.
BTW, I just saw Mark’s response to me in the last thread. I agree with Mark that the pen has been excellent. Is it not circular thinking to say the pen has been excellent but it wasn’t dumb to put in Urias instead of using the pen? We will see how this plays out. I hope Julio comes out tomorrow and gives them a solid 5 or 6. My son proudly wore his Urias jersey to school when they knocked out the Giants. I also hope the Dodgers give him the run support they have all year.
Mark and I both love the Dodgers and Colts and both think by year end AF put together an excellent pen. I’m just worried the pen will be spent because our 3 starters are spent.
Talking to the grandkids:.” ….. And that, children, is how the Dodgers started an epic comeback and went on to win the World Series”
{LADT Family Hug}
Big squeeze baby
CIRCULAR HUG!
Circle jerk……Ehhhh Never mind
I knew someone out there shared my sense of humor.
LOL!
I’m sure it’s been talked about here but Bellinger is definitely 6 or more inches off the plate now and choking up so I guess he’s not so stubborn and not listening to coaching.
JT and TT are going to have to show up at some point aren’t they? Happy for Pollock’s base hit in the 8th and can we now proudly proclaim Will Smith just might be the best catcher in MLB. Dude is a stud.
I want to go get three or 4 pints of Häagen-Dazs but the wife won’t let me because I’ve had too many beers. Which is smart I wouldn’t want her to react in any other way but I thought she feel sorry for me and go get them herself.
She said she won’t do it because she’ll binge herself and then she’ll blame me and we’ll get into a fight.
So I guess it out to the back porch and burn one until I can’t stay awake any more go Dodgers , go Cody, go dodger fans and LADT
We will be in “the back room” shortly here as well.
cheers
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Calling a safety meeting is always prudent.
Great comeback.
Overcame some bad breaks in 4th inning.
And found a way to win.
Don’t forget Will Smith and Pollock putting the ball in play and getting hits.
And that HR from Bellinger was shocking but amazing!
Fantastic win!
Now let’s get a win tomorrow!
I had high hopes for AJ this postseason. Let’s hope this is the start of something. I assume he starts tomorrow. TT needs to step up. Hayden Fry used to say scratch where it itches. TT needs to take what they are giving him.
Carson Taylor with a HR tonight too 🙂
Buehler showed some real class and maturity. This was his quote after the game:
“Gavin’s confident enough and talented enough to handle that kind of stuff. That inning is on me, not on him, not on the umpire.”
You puff out your chest when you have a great outing, and you take responsibility when you have a poor outing. That’s how the good ones react to adversity. Good on you Walker!
Wow. Amazing humility and grace. How absolutely refreshing to see that.
Vesia
Bruihl
Bickford
Phillips
Who are these guys?!?!
Graterol & Treinen rested for tomorrow.
I would sit Lux, play Taylor in CF & Pollock in LF.
Bench is Pujols, Beaty, Barnes, Lux, Caveman.
I would put TT in CF (he has some experience there) and put Lux at 2b where he is used to play.
OTOH even Mookie had trouble yesterday with the sun and seeing fly balls in the outfield. So the errore by Gavin might be not as big a blunder as it looks on the scoreboard.
Go Dodgers11111111111
The brewers won early in September and then they dedicated themselves to just floating in the water, they lost a lot of games and they got cold, when they wanted to start the engines they could no longer, they were already cold and the season was over for them; There is a plan, a script, a script but this changes according to the circumstances, the brewers did what you wanted the Dodgers to do and they are already eliminated, while so many Dodgers are fighting for the championship.
The pitching of the dodgers, mainly the relievers are not gassed, Buehler left early today and they did the job again, they only allowed one run, it is the pitching that has sustained this team since the all-star game, the same players They have mentioned it, and they are the ones who are going to lead us to victory if the offense supports them with some runs, they will not need many runs scored, just enough and they will take us to the championship.
Somehow after playing like shit, we are down 2-1 in a best of 7. lfg
Man oh man, I had to get up early this morning so I could not watch the game to the end yesterday and just finishe up the last 3.5 innings. Had not much hope after witnessing how the Dodgers offense went down inning after inning after the CS homer.
To see them come back and eventually win this game I had to pinch myself to see if I am really awake or dreaming.
What a monumental comeback at a most critical time! And how about Cody Bellinger ? All year he swung and missed on that high cheese and now he belts it out for the tying HR! If that is not Hollywood scripted I dont know.
Can be a huge momentum swing in this series if you come back from the dead like that.
One thing for sure: it never ever is easy with our Dodgers. Win or lose, you better have your heart pills ready any time.
Good to see that guys like Phillipp and Bruihl came threw for us too in pressure cooker situations. Should give DR confidence in them .
Lets hope Julio can give us a solid 5,6 innings today before the bullpen game on Thursday. Need to tie this series up today and ride that momentum. DS will certainly be shaking to its grounds today.
BTW, did you see that game in Boston ? RedSox brought in their game 2 starter Eovaldi in relief to get them to the bottom of the ninth and he imploded after he thought he had strike 3 to end the inning.
Same strategy DR used with Julio in game 2 and it backfired for Boston too.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UN BEE LIEVE ABLE
Not much more I can say.
But onto the next one. The Turner boys need to get it going and I believe they will.
That HAS to put a jolt into the guys.
Think Blue
I turned the game off in the 6th inning. I was totally frustrated and pretty pissed off. They seemed like they did not care. Bad at bats, leaving runners on base again. After watching some regular TV for a while I switched back to the game to see how bad it was, and low and behold it was tied. Taylor steals second, and Mookie scorches one in the gap and they are ahead. Now I see a really fired up bench and fan base. All that sword waving the Braves were doing earlier in the game was gone. Then Jansen comes in and absolutely blows three hitters away. WOW. What an ending. And I think that game serves as a catalyst and momentum changer for the team. The baseball gods smiled down and they responded.
this series is so closely contested it could be from 3-0 Braves to 3-0 Dodgers very easily. Every game was decided by close late plays and managerial decisions. Classical postseason baseball.
Today is huge again. Going down 3-1 with a bullpen game looming in game 5 vs Fried does not sound good to me.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They got to Freid in Atlanta. He left the game trailing. They can do it again.
On the Dodger website it says Urias is pitching tonight. Very quietly, Seager tied Turner for the all time lead in post season HR’s by a Dodger with 13. Bellinger’s shot was his 8th. And his fifth that tied the game or put the Dodgers ahead.