What’s Up Doc?

Doc is what is up!

Dave Roberts, who in his rookie season as the Dodger’s manager, won the Manager of the Year Award is a shoo-in to do it again in his second year.  He’s so far ahead, there’s not a second place.  Of course, FAZ gave him an embarrassment of riches, but he has managed it almost flawlessly. I still know of three or four morons who criticize FAZ by trying to point to small failures (Olivera, maybe Schebler, Latos, Johnson, Cotton, Reddick, Montas, blah, blah, blah), but all you have to look at is the SCOREBOARD!

FAZ has proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they know how to build a juggernaut while still winning in the process.  Usually, the new front office blows up the team and starts over but FAZ still went to the playoffs in their first two years and is now poised to win it all in year three. To the best of my knowledge, this has never been done before. The mockers have turned into the mockees (is that really a word?)! I told them for years that they were missing a good opportunity to shut up because they were just going to be exposed as blowhards… and now they are.

Now they have to shut up, but they still don’t.  A few morons say that Guggenheim & Company “forced” Friedman to hire Roberts and that FAZ was set to hire Kapler.  Somehow, they believe that this degrades FAZ.  Well, there are lies and there are damned lies and that one is a damn lie!  Totally untrue.  It only deserves mention to berate the source of such drivel.

Dave Roberts has shut up his detractors too. When one type of slander doesn’t work, the FAZ detractors resort to other methods like “Dave Roberts is a puppet – he just does what FAZ says.” The people who say that are simply liars or ignoramuses… or both! DodgerRick was kind enough to post an article from USA TODAY (If you haven’t read it, I suggest you do) that takes a look inside of  the Dodgers’ Front Office.

You want to know the secret behind the Dodgers’ success, reaching 83 victories faster than any National League team since 1944, there’s no need to look any further than their front office.

Its brand is Analytic Geek Squad, a group boasting Wall Street resumes, MIT diplomas and Ph.Ds.

Yet, while they routinely pore over statistical data with their players, they’re actually accepted and embraced within the clubhouse culture as one of their own – averting the chasm so often seen between players, field staff and front-office executives.

“The communication from Andrew, Farhan (Zaidi) and the multiple GMs around here is extremely comfortable,’’ Dodgers veteran pitcher Rich Hill says. “It’s not like, ‘Oh, wow, I can’t talk to him because he’s the president or the GM.’ There are no barriers or walls. The level of respect is there for everybody, and you just don’t find that in every organization. Hopefully, other organizations will look at this as a model for everyone.’’

Make no mistake, this is an organization that thrives on data. Players are given charts before each game on everything from defensive positioning to opposing pitchers’ tendencies to secretive injuries. Catcher Yasmani Grandal has a color-coded cheat sheet on his wrist band. Outfielders carry index cards in their back pockets during games, reminding them of their defensive placement. Players are given access to a proprietary statistical website.

Manager Dave Roberts is provided so much information before every game that he could launch a NASA program.

“But the perception that those guys are just kind of number guys,’’ Roberts says, “couldn’t be further than the truth. They’re down in the clubhouse all of the time, interacting with players and coaches, and bouncing ideas off one another. We talk just as much about clubhouse chemistry, and the right type of player we need, as much as we do the data.’’

And, please, the notion that the front office is making out the lineup card, Roberts says, is a narrative that needs to go away.

“That has never, ever happened,’’ Roberts says. “There’s always been that collaboration, bouncing thoughts off one another. We use all of the data from lineup construction to positioning to pitcher’s usage and matchups, but as far as the lineup cards, that’s my call.

“Ultimately, it’s my decision who is going to play.’’

This would be a good opportunity for all the detractors to just shut up. Maybe I am using some strong words, but I listened to this drivel about FAZ for years.  The people who said it aren’t here on this board, but they are reading this and I know who they are and they know who they are.  Most of us know who they are.  It’s a free country, you can say stupid stuff. You can be an idiot who marches at Charlottesville.  No matter how detestable your beliefs are, you are free to express them as long as you don’t injure another person or infringe on their rights.  That’s true almost everywhere in America, but when you infringe on my rights by saying stupid stuff and cause me to lose brain cells, well, that’s where it stops.  I can’t spare any more brain cells. You all know that!

OK, this rant is over.  Have a wonderful day!

The batting order doesn’t really matter as much as we fans think that it does.  DodgerRick also posted this yesterday on the Significance of Batting Order. It’s a worthy read.  Logan Forsythe hit 5th, Puig hit 7th and Kike was the cleanup hitter.  It’s didn’t matter – they were all instrumental in the come from behind win.  Maybe we all should not miss this opportunity to shut up about the batting order (Myself Included).  These guys are professionals – don’t try this at home!

Rants and Raves

  • We aren’t hearing much about Brandon McCarthy.  What’s up with that?
  • Why does Clayton need a rehab start?”  It’s just more innings.  Have Stewart or Stripling or some other pitcher ready and see if Clayton can go 5 – I bet he can!
  • Locastro was 3-5 again with his 2nd HR (.415 BS, 1.081 OPS) in game 1 and 1-4 in game 2
  • Farmer played 3B and was 3-5 in game 1 and played 1B in Game 2
  • Buehler pitched 1 inning and allowed 3 hits and a run.  It’s taking a while to get him accustomed to relieving.
  • Sborz and Sopko had good outings in Tulsa’s double header.
  • Andre Ethier and Adrian Gonzalez both played for RC last night.  Forget their numbers…. are they healthy?  That’s all that counts.

 

Posted by Mark Timmons

We started LA Dodger Talk in 2001. This site is about giving another perspective outside of the average day-to-day reporting. We don’t do game recaps or such things — lots of sites do that well. I value sabermetrics, but don’t think they are the “end-all-be-all.”. This is where you should start your day as a Dodger Fan. Welcome! We’d like to hear your voice.

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  1. 1. I echo Mark’s comments on Dodgerrick’s USA Today gem. It is the best picture of a front office and team melding into a juggernaut that I have read. The players seemingly love the relationship, which apparently was critical in the re-signing of Kenley, JT, and Rich Hill. The players also seem to be buying into the numbers. The FAZ way will be plagiarized.
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    2. Again, I trust Doc’s lineups. I am happy for Kike’, I am happy for Logan, and I am happy for Yasiel. And wearing my Seager jersey out on the town, always seems to work.
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    3. Mark touched on some of the minor league action…here is a more detailed version.

    MINOR LEAGUE REPORT
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    OKC Game 1 – OKC lost 11-8 to Omaha Storm Chasers (Royals). Three OKC pitchers allowed 11 runs on 11 hits, 5 walks, 8 strikeouts, and 3 HRs. Justin Marks started and took the loss. Tim Locastro and Kyle Farmer had three hits each for the Dodgers, including Locastro’s 2nd HR. Locastro is now batting .415. Charlie Culberson, O’Koyea Dickson, and Drew Maggi had two hits each for the Dodgers.
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    OKC Game 2 – OKC lost 2-1 to Omaha Storm Chasers (Royals). Fabio Castillo started and went 5.0 innings allowing 1 run on two hits, issuing 1 walk, and 5 strikeouts, and got the loss. Walker Buehler relieved and allowed 1 run on 3 hits and 1 strikeout. He is a starter learning how to relive. Alex Verdugo and Charlie Culberson each had two hits. Culberson’s 2nd hit was a 2 out 7th inning run scoring single for the Dodgers sole run.
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    Tulsa Game 1 – Tulsa 6-1 win over Corpus Christi Hooks (Astros). Josh Sborz seems to be finally getting acclimated. He followed up his last two excellent starts with a third consecutive strong pitching performance to win his 7th game. Josh went 6 innings (92 pitches) and allowed 1 run on 3 hits, 1 walk and 7 strikeouts. His ERA is down to 3.53. Luis Ysla pitched a perfect 7th inning to complete the win. Offensively, Matt Beatty went 3-3 including his 14th HR. Drew Jackson (1st) and Kyle Garlick (14th) also hit HRs.
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    Tulsa Game 2 – Tulsa 3-1 win over Corpus Christi Hooks (Astros). Andy Sopko started and pitched 5.0 shutout innings. He allowed 4 hits, 1 walk, and 6 strikeouts. Brian Moran and Corey Copping each pitched an inning with Copping notching his 14th save. After a 3 hit Game 1, Matt Beatty went 2-3 in Game 2. Blake Gailen (2) and Erick Mejia each had run producing doubles.
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    RC Quakes lost 5-3 to the Stockton Ports (A’s). Michael Boyle started for the Quakes and went an undistinguished 4 innings allowing 4 runs on 6 hits to get the loss. Alex Hermeling and Jason Richman finished up the final five innings, with Richman going three scoreless innings. Luke Raley was the lone offensive weapon with 2 hits including a 2 run triple, and then scored himself on a DJ Peters single. AGon, playing 1B, went 1-5, while Andre Ethier, playing LF, went 0-2.
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    Great Lakes beat the Lansing Lugnuts (Blue Jays) 10-6. 32nd round draft choice, OF Tyler Adkison, was promoted yesterday to Great Lakes from Ogden. 3B Brock Carpenter was promoted today to Great Lakes from Ogden. Ryan Mosely was the third Loon pitcher and went 3.0 innings allowing 1 walk for the only base-runner. He struck out 5. Andre Scrubb pitched the final 4 innings allowing 1 run on 3 hits, no walks, and 4 strikeouts, for the win. In his Great Lakes debut, Adkison went 2-3, including his first double. Steve Berman also had two hits. But the very hot Gavin Lux was the offensive star for Great Lakes with a 3-5 night.
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    Ogden lost to the Great Falls Voyagers (White Sox) 11-6. Not much positive news on the pitching. There were 5 pitchers with Justin Hoyt and Conor Costello combining for 4.1 scoreless innings. Rylan Bannon continues his solid inaugural professional season with 2 hits and his batting a solid .403. Romer Cuadrado, Gersel Pitre, and Brayan Morales had two hits each. Luis Paz slugged his 12th HR; a 3 run shot in the third that brought the Raptors within one at the time. One other note, Carlos Rincon who had 18 HRs for Great Lakes, but almost struck out 40% of his PA, was re-assigned to Rookie level at Ogden.
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    AZL Dodgers shutout the AZL Brewers 6-0. Jesus Vargas, Nathan Witt, Zach Pop, and Santos Mateo combined for the shutout, with Vargas going the first 6 to get his 3rd win. Zach Pop (7th round) and Nathan Witt (17th round) each went 1 inning in their professional debut. Each allowed one hit, and struck out one. Erisbel Arruebarrena had 3 hits including his 2nd triple. Eric Meza and Jefrey Souffront had 2 hits each. Souffront hit his 5th HR for the Dodgers.

  2. What a win last night! Yu didn’t have his best stuff, but these guys are amazing… they are never out of a game it seems. It’s obvious to me that Agon will be nothing more than PH and occasional starter, but he’s been “Pipped.” This team has been too dynamic with who they have brought to the dance and to insert Agon or Eitheir into an everyday starting line-up would be a mistake.

    I think September will be a tryout to see who’s hitting the ball well and either one, but not both, will be on the playoff roster as a LH PH and depth piece. This team is going to the playoff war with Cody 1B, Taylor OF, Forsythe/Utley 2B, Joc/Kike OF. The kids have arrived, they’re playing great and the NL West will have to go through LA for the next decade or so. Love what FAZ and Doc have created. Just hope it brings a WS to LA!

  3. I couldn’t sleep last night after that, this is incredible. What a hit for Puig, what a win for the Dodgers.

  4. The USA Today article was good in that it made most if not all of the same points people like Mark and AC and me have been making for a couple of years. What I found gratifying, interesting, encouraging even, is that it was Dodgerrick who posted a link to that article. He had been a steadfast detractor of the Friedman/Zaidi way, those nerds with their pocket protectors and slide rules ruining the game, besmirching the memory of Koufax and Drysdale, removing the heart and human element from the game in favor of algorithmically dictated baseball automatons. He’s a smart, rational guy, and made good counter arguments against the FAZ way, but I think among the intelligent there is a realization that, although some of the modern changes don’t replicate the nostalgic memory many of us have of great Dodgers teams of the past, the present looks pretty good. And to his credit, he gives credit. Even Truther, who I sparred with often last year, who was as cynical about this organization as it gets and called the lineup gutless, is enjoying the grit and clutch hitting of this team. We’re all enjoying the ride, and it’s good. In these times, when I’m seeing my country seemingly come apart at the seams, I take solace in the Dodgers. And in this, we can all enjoy the ride.
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    There are still a few dead enders; a few clingers. I popped in out of a sense of morbid curiosity over at that Dodger Therapy site. He no longer posts articles. (what on Earth of substance does he have to say anymore?), but he is still active in the comments, providing a haven for those “long suffering Dodger fans.” I gave him a little poke in the comments section there. What a bitter, angry guy! His thinking attracts the like minded, and his lone, lonely little website reminds me of those old Japanese soldiers, alone on those remote Pacific islands, still clinging the the fight decades later.
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    Wins like the one last night make it feel like this is a team of destiny, and reminds me a bit of the 88 Dodgers and some of those moments: like Lasorda using starting pitcher Tim Leary as a pinch hitter in the 9th, and him getting a walk off base hit, Gibson coming home from second on a wild pitch (my memory is a bit hazy but I think that happened), and of course the image of Don Drysdale embracing Orel when he broke his scoreless innings streak. The playoffs are always a question mark. Anything can happen, as it did for the 2001 Mariners, and I think, as Bluto points out, this team should be build for multiple playoff appearances. That makes for better odds of actually winning a WS. But still, it would a shame if the this team didn’t take the WS.

  5. Am I the only one who finds the national coverage of baseball by the likes of ESPN or mlb.com to be irritating. Here we are with one of the historical regular season teams in baseball history, and still all the coverage is “Yankees vs. Redsox….Aaron Judge…Aaron Judge, Red Sox…Red Sox..Yankees…oh yeah, Kris Bryant…Cubs…” What does it take to break this East Coast bias?

    1. It’s about ratings. We on the West Coast can easily watch any game. Those on the other side of the country have a hard time staying up past 1:00am to watch West Coast baseball. As far as the Cubs, they are the champions and were a great story last year. I’m guessing their exposure will lessen next year.

  6. Mike Stanton cleared waivers.

    Let’s start some rumors.

    1. Taylor CF
    2. Seager SS
    3. Turner 3B
    4. Bellinger 1B
    5. Stanton LF
    6. Grandal C
    7. Puig RF
    8. Forsythe/Utley 2B

    A-Gon is part of the deal as a PTBNL after the World Series, so he comes off the books next year. The Marlins also take Kaz and Mac for payroll relief and Joc Pederson, Alex Verdugo, Yadier Alvarez , Will Smith, Yusniel Diaz and Starling Heredia.

    Am I crazy?

    1. Generally speaking, probably so. As far as this proposal, why not. I would love to have Stanton. I could live without the mentioned trade candidates, but nine players for one?

    2. Are you crazy? Duh!!!! As for your trade idea, I not opposed it but would the Marlins want to pay the remainder of the contracts for A-Gon, Kaz and Mac? Even though A-Gon and Mac only have a year left I could see them wanting us to pay a portion of A-Gon’s contract. I worry about Stanton’s health history. If he can’t stay on the field he’s not worth the contract and we’re in another Crawford situation. My other concern is how he will age. Big sluggers typically don’t age well. With Bellinger we don’t really have the option of moving Stanton to 1B and I don’t want to count on the NL getting the DH.

    3. Too much. I’m with you but the Marlins are losing $10’s of millions per year and Stanton’s contract hasn’t become large yet. Only a few teams can take on that contract. Two of those prospects should be plenty.

  7. The thought of Stanton in the Dodgers lineup makes me drool. Can’t even imagine how difficult it would be to pitch around anyone. Cody might never receive another IBB. Might consider flipping Grandal/Puig in that lineup, but that probably doesn’t matter. And I’m sure it was just an oversight when you mentioned “Grandal” instead of “Grandal/Barnes”. Not going to comment on the players included in the deal, because I’m sure that FAZ is perfectly capable of determining who to include. I have never seen Yadier Alvarez pitch, but based on what I’ve read, I’d be very reluctant to include him. I realize he’s regressed a bit this year, but I think it’s important to remember that he’s only 21, and electric arms like his don’t come along everyday. Maturity is a hard thing to predict, but should Alvarez find it, his regression could turn into progression in an instant.


    I’ve always been a strong FAZ supporter, even though I supported THE TRADE, and still do. When Guggenheim took over the team in 2012 they came in with the idea of winning now, and building for the future, BOTH at the same time. And they did that because they had the vision and the wherewithal to do it. Let’s not forget, that it’s generally conceded that it takes about 5 years to build a farm system that produces a steady pipeline of talent. When Guggenheim took over in 2012 they drafted Cory Seager and signed Puig and Urias. And they’ve continued to add talent year after year since then.


    In the meantime the Dodgers have won 4 consecutive division titles (soon officially to become 5), and would probably have gone to the WS in 2013 had Hanley not been drilled in the ribs. All of this while building a steady pipeline of young talent that promises to continue producing for years to come.


    And while FAZ deserves much of the credit, so too does Stan Kasten, the person probably most responsible for hiring Andrew Friedman. What Friedman and Zaidi are doing now is probably an extension of Kasten’s vision to rebuild the farm system decimated by McCourt, while continuing to win while that system was still in its nascent stages of development. Kasten likely knew that he would ultimately take a backseat to Friedman, and had the foresight to hire a like-minded executive to carry out his long term plan.


    So, while I give great credit to FAZ, Byrnes, etc., I also have not forgotten that they would not be in place were it not for Stan Kasten’s vision. If anything, this has been a team effort.


    As for Doc, he’s been great. It may take a while for everyone to agree on this, but in my mind he’s replaced Bochy as the best manager in the game.

    1. I couldn’t agree more with your praise of Kasten. He was the one who got the ball rolling.

      I’m sure those Giant fans with short memories would trade Bochy for Roberts in a heartbeat. I think Bochy is/was a great manager but at this point in time I would much rather have Roberts. He’s the present and the future.

    2. I don’t see Roberts as an comparison, to Bruce Bochy.

      I see Roberts more as a younger version, of Joe Maddon.

      Roberts is not only a manager much like Friedman’s first manager, he is younger, and he actually played Major League Baseball, and I think that makes Roberts, a better manager.

      Because Roberts did play Major League Baseball, he knows how hard the game can be, and that is just something, that Maddon can’t relate to, with his players, like Roberts can.

      The Dodgers owners were also a big part of bringing Roberts to the Dodgers, because they asked to see more manager candidates, and that isn’t a knock on the front office, that is the truth.

      And Roberts won everybody over, and everybody included, both the owners, and the front office.

      1. I think you’re correct when ownership said that more needed to be interviewed including Roberts. I don’t think ownership forced them to hand the job to Roberts over Gabe Kapler. Seems like McCarthy has been put in timeout somewhere. I think he’s been told that you will sit on the DL until a rehab takes you up til the Sept 1st callup or they’re trying like mad to trade him.

        1. Hawkeye

          The owners did want to see more candidates, but it was a mutually decision, between the front office, and the owners.

          And actually, Roberts blew the front office away, with his interview!

          That is one thing I like about Friedman, he is big on collaborative.

      2. The Dodgers owners were also a big part of bringing Roberts to the Dodgers, because they asked to see more manager candidates, and that isn’t a knock on the front office, that is the truth.

        I have it on very good authority that it is not the truth… that Roberts was on the list from the beginning. Give me proof from some credible source that is true and I will believe it, but I don’t think you can. I know some have SAID that, but that does not make it true. Friedman and Kasten have denied it.

  8. Barnes got a great read on Puig’s hit. He’s was at second base when Puig’s hit landed.

    1. Hawkeye

      Barnes is just a player, and I think that is the ultimate compliment, for a young player, like Barnes!

  9. I posted the links to the articles on the Dodgers’ front office (which I thought was fascinating) and on lineup construction (which isn’t new news, actually) as I thought that it would be of general interest to all Dodger fans.

    You can’t argue with success and the Dodgers have been on a run the likes of which I have never seen. Obviously, the clubhouse is more cohesive and the players have bought into the advantages that the data brings. The Braintrust has been more than data crunchers which is clear from the article as well. I was never one who thought that the Braintrust was dictating lineups, etc. from on high and the article clarified that for those who thought otherwise. The article makes it clear that they are more engaged with the players than you would expect and this has been a big plus.

    On paper, this isn’t the best Dodger team that I’ve seen – I would say that the teams from 74 – 78 are better in terms of having starters who pitched innings and pitched every 4 or 5 days, as well as position players who were outstanding without the need of platooning, etc. The thing is that the games aren’t played on paper and this years’ team has done inexplicable things – like 10 walk off wins, going 50 – 9 since June 7, losing only 1 game if they had a lead at any time, etc. These guys know that they have a chance to win every game so they never stop grinding and win when you think that they can’t/won’t. Any Dodger fan has to be really, REALLY excited about this bunch, and I am hoping for both a regular season win record and a World Series victory.

    Branch Rickey said that luck was the residue of design. I have been critical of the constant roster churn, but give Friedman et al credit – the roster churn has revealed guys like Taylor and Morrow. And it isn’t luck at this point – it is the players’ knowledge that they are never out of a game and the depth of the roster that has produced results.

    One more thought about “depth”. We were told in previous seasons that it didn’t matter if the team hired the old and infirm to pitch because of depth. Injured pitchers don’t help you, in my view. On the other hand, if an Adrian Gonzalez or a Clayton Kershaw get hurt, between scouring the waiver wire, bringing up guys from the minors and the return of other injured guys have produced a nearly seamless transition and the Dodgers keep going even with injuries. I do think that they have a couple of irreplaceable players – Seager, Jansen and yes, Kershaw, but on the whole, the Dodgers are better suited to survive injuries than any team in baseball. The Braintrust gets extra kudos for the foresight to stock the shelves. That’s what they have done with the money – they haven’t spent a fortune on free agents, but they have stocked the shelves.

    1. Rick

      I have to agree with you about the teams you mentioned in the 70s, but like you mentioned, things were a little different then.

      And we have to give those teams credit, for doing it, for quite a while, in those years.

  10. It’s fantastic the team is playing so well with a different hero every night. But I think the most beautiful sight is in the standings. The Dodgers are 51 games over 500, have 51 home wins and the midgets have 48 wins on the season total.

    1. Thanks for that stat. I stated that to a colleague of mine in the office who is a huge Giants fan (as much as I am a Dodgers fan). All he could do was shake his head and say, “I have no comeback.” But he did come back later and ask”What is Kershaw’s ERA in the post-season?” Knowing that the Dodgers will have a post season, and the Giants will not, he then proceeded to walk away and shake his head again. It’s great to be a Dodgers fan this year. Okay, every year, but this year especially.

  11. I too like Kasten, and was pleased when he joined the ownership group and became the President and CEO of the Dodgers. He built the Braves with a strong pitching core and a strong farm. The Dodgers seem to be following in that pattern. But I think the days of having three HOF pitchers on the same staff is not going to be replicated for some time (if ever again). He was very loyal to John Schuerholz and Bobby Cox, so that bodes well for Andrew Friedman/Farhan Zaidi and Doc Roberts. His teams got to the playoffs, but were successful only one time in the WS. But IMO the field personnel need to take a big chunk of the ownership on that.
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    With respect to Austin Barnes, I remember Mark being so positive about him; so much so that I started to refer to him as Mark’s Craig Biggio. He is never going to be a Craig Biggio, but he is an outstanding team player capable of playing all over the field and being solid in every one of those position (as was Craig Biggio). I think Biggio was an AS catcher, 2B, and OF. Maybe not an OF as he moved there at the end of his career, but he still played OF during his AS years. I think MJ’s description of Austin Barnes as just a baseball player is apt. That is what he is.

  12. Dodgers 76 – 23 since Bellinger called up 4/25. That’s a .767 W-L and would result in 124 wins over a 162 game season.

  13. Hawkeyes, I agree with you on Barnes running the bases last night. I watched the replay at least twice. A first I thought he was stealing second. He got a great jump on that hit.

    1. He was running on the first 3-2 pitch and he was also running on the hit, that’s why he scored so easily.

  14. Barnes did great job of hitting last night. Forsythe doubles, none out, and Barnes tried to get a hit on the first two strikes and then he hits a grounder to second. Forsythe then scores on a wild pitch. That is the kind of small ball they need to play. Doc and the other players congratulated Barnes as if he hit a HR. Then he does get a hit in the 9th. and scores the winning run. A lot to like about that kid.

  15. MJ said:

    The Dodgers owners were also a big part of bringing Roberts to the Dodgers, because they asked to see more manager candidates, and that isn’t a knock on the front office, that is the truth.”

    I have it on very good authority that it is not the truth… that Roberts was on the list from the beginning. Give me proof from some credible source that is true and I will believe it, but I don’t think you can. I know some have SAID that, but that does not make it true. Friedman and Kasten have denied it.

    1. Mark

      Dodger managers search down to two,, per report.

      TrueBlueLA November 18 2015.

      They make a little reference here, about the owner’s choice, and the front office’s
      choice.

      I said those teams in the 70s because they went to the World Series, three times.

      1. Mark

        I found another one.

        ESPN November 22 , 2015

        Another Great Steal for Next Los Angeles Dodger Manager Dave Roberts.

        The writers name was Saxon,

    2. Mark

      LA Times November 23 2015

      Dodgers expected Hiring of Dave Roberts, is Break or Make, for Friedman.

      Bill Shakien

      I don’t know what you heard, but this was what we were hearing in LA.

      And you know I have no problem with the front office!

      I actually told you about that article about the front office in USA Today, a day before Rick showed the link.

      1. OK, I will pull Rick’s credit and grant it to you, but he might appeal. He’s very litigious!

        1. Mark

          I don’t care about that!

          I just mentioned to you, because I guess I thought you, thought I was going after the front office, but I wasn’t.

  16. I just randomly picked the 1979 Dodger team to compare to this year’s team:

    1B – Bellinger or Garvey? Garvey was great, but I take Bellinger…. after 1 season.
    2B – Lopes over Forsythe and Utley
    SS – Seager over Russell – no comparison
    3B – Turner and Cey are close
    LF – Taylor over Baker
    CF – Derrell Thomas over Pederson
    RF – Puig and Reggie Smith – this was late in Reggies’ Career and Puig was better here.
    C – Grandal and Barnes over Yeager and Ferguson
    Bench – The 2017 team is deeper
    Pitching – Team ERA in 1979 was 3.89. The 2017 is barely over 3.05.

    I think Seager and Bellinger and Kershaw end up in the HOF. The 1979 Dodgers had ZERO. Just my opinion.

    1. Not so sure about Taylor over Baker or Grandal/Barnes over Yeager/Ferguson. Reggie was one of my favorites but Puig is on the improve.

    2. Reggie Smith was the best of that group. Puig doesn’t compare. Not sure why you picked 79 which was a catastrophe of a season. These days a manager doesnt survive that type is season. Turner is way better than Cey. Not even close. I loved the Penguin but he never sniffed .300 was a very streaky hitter and JT is right with him on defense if not better. A little early to be putting Belly over Garvey. Comparing this season to 74 Garvey might be a better comparison. Taylor is having quite a year and maybe better than any single season of Dusty’s but show me long term and show me in the playoffs. I agree on the other position players.

        1. I’m just sticking my neck out. After 100 games I am predicting the HOF for Cody right about now. I’ll either be a genius or a dumbass… maybe both!

      1. Reggie and Puig were both blessed with cannons attached to their right arms. Another with a cannon was Dave Parker.

  17. MJ,

    I read a recent interview about Roberts hiring – I’m not going to spend a lot of time looking, but TrueBlueLA wrote this:

    “Former Dodgers outfielder and current Padres bench coach Dave Roberts has interviewed with the Dodgers for their vacant managerial position, per Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports, who also reported the Dodgers aren’t close to a decision on their next manager.

    Roberts was mentioned as a possible candidate for the Dodgers’ job by Rosenthal on Oct. 22, the day manager Don Mattingly and the club mutually agreed to part ways. Roberts, 48, was also a finalist for the Mariners manager job that went to Scott Servais.”

    https://www.truebluela.com/2015/11/3/9665066/dave-roberts-dodgers-manager-interview

    Roberts was on the list from the beginning. The other stuff is just BS from a couple of idiots at LADR!

    1. Mark

      It is no big deal to me, but when you read it from ESPN and especially from a writer at the LA Times, you think they know about this.

      And they did talk about it in some of the blogs and at Dodger Talk.

      I am just glad the front office got rid of Mattingly, and I know they were the one, because the Dodger’s owner with the majority share, told Friedman it was up to him.

      And you know I have loved Roberts from the begining.

      And I told you about that article about the front office, because I was always telling people, even when Mattingly was here, the front office didn’t make the line up, like everyone would say.

      And that is one of the reasons people thought Mattingly left.

      But this kind of collaboration, was probably to hard for Mattingly to do, because he was set in the old ways.

  18. We have Roberts!!! Why the spin out… He’ll sign an extension after the season…
    Watford you’re right!!! With Verdugo in the wings it’s wait n see…
    The fight Watford, the fight!!! I’ve got MMA going down in 6 or less and then we shall eliminate future thoughts of a cage dude entering the ring…
    Now it’s on to Detroit to sack n pillage…

  19. As of today Mayweather is -400 and as much as I don’t like him he has never lost which means his money line always cashes. McGregor has a punchers chance of course but all the top BOXERS have never done it, that is pin Floyd down and land combinations or even a good left hook. He dances away, uses his speed to land combinations and piles up points. He is not a knockout guy, but McGregor is not much of a boxer so it is possible. I see a dominating decision because that is Floyd’s thing but this price shows me the betting public does not understand boxing. MMA rules a different story, but McGregor is just there for the payday.

    On a side note I like the Dodgers to win today and extend their win streak. I’m curious to see when AGon is activated since he can DH in these games with Detroit.

  20. August 17, 2017 MINOR LEAGUE REPORT
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    OKC 4-3 winners over Omaha Storm Chasers (Royals). David Hale started and pitched into the 7th inning allowing 3 runs on 9 hits, 0 walks, and 2K. Josh Ravin and Jeremy Bleich finished up the victory with 2.1 scoreless innings. Offensively Alex Verdugo, Edwin Rios, and Charlie Culberson each had two hits. Trayce Thompson launched his 9th HR of the season. Justin Masterson takes the mound tonight for the OKC Dodgers.
    .
    The Tulsa Drillers beat Corpus Christi Hooks (Astros) 2-1 for a 3 game series sweep. This was advertised to be a great pitching matchup between Mitchell White and Forest Whitley. It did not quite live up to the hype because White only pitched 3 innings. White pitched out of trouble in the first two innings before giving up a solo HR to former 1st round draftee (2015), Kyle Tucker in the third. Layne Somsen, Shea Spitzbarth, and Corey Copping finished the final 6 innings. Spitzbarth got the win, while Copping got his 15th save. Behind 1-0 in the 8th, Erick Mejia led off with a double and after Drew Jackson drew a walk after falling behind 0-2, and both scored on a throwing error by Hooks’ 3B Arturo Michelena, on an Errol Robinson high bouncer.
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    I know I have been tough on Yadier Alveraz. And while he still may become a top of the rotation starter, at 21 and struggling at AA (after struggling at A+), he does not have Ace written yet. To me, a pitcher like Forest Whitley who is 19 and has reached AA this year, and threw a dominating 6 shutout innings against a potential post season Drillers team, that is a potential Ace, and someone worth following (even though he is not a Dodger). Tonight the Drillers go against another highly respected pitcher, 2016 1st round pick of the Padres, Cal Quantril (mlb.com #43 prospect). Scott Barlow goes to the bump for the Drillers
    .
    RC shutout the Stockton Ports (A’s) 8-0. Parker Curry started and went 5 innings. Daniel Corcino and Dean Kremer pitched the final 4 innings for the shutout victory. The trio allowed 5 hits, 4 walks, and 11K. Offensively the Quakes were led by a foursome’s two run homeruns. Keibert Ruiz was the star last night with 3 hits and his 6th Quake HR. DJ Peters went 2-4 with his 24th double and league lead tieing 24th HR. Quincy Lattimore went 2-3 and his 1st RC HR. Luke Raley went 2-4 with his 14th HR. Ibandel Isabel added two doubles to the hit parade. Caleb Ferguson looks for his 9th victory on the season tonight.
    .
    Great Lakes were 8-1 winners over the Lansing Lugnuts (Blue Jays). Leo Crawford continued with his yo-yo season, started and went 7.1 innings. He allowed the single run on 5 hits, 2 walks, and 3K. The former UCSB Gaucho reliever, James Carter, was effective again in his 5th game with the Loons, finishing up the final 1.1 inning, allowing 1 hit and 2K. Cody Thomas and Jeren Kendall each had two hits. Kendal also had two walks. Gavin Lux continued his hot August with another hit.
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    Ogden was trounced by Great Falls Voyagers (White Sox) 19-2. There were no positive pitching moments for the raptors unless you can consider the 1B/OF/C Luis Paz with his 1 pitch double-play ball to end the 8th a positive pitching moment. Donovan Casey went 2-4, and Garrett Hope hit his 6th HR were the only offensive highlights. Carlos Felix takes the mound tonight for the Raptors.
    .
    AZL Dodgers beat the AZL Reds 7-3. Jose Chacin started and went 5 innings for his 3rd win. Stetson Allie continued his conversion to pitcher with another good 1 inning in relief. Overall, Allie has been in 6 games, completing 5 IP, 2H, 1 unearned run, 4BB, and 5K. I wish both Allie and Ike Davis well in their quest to continue their careers as pitchers. Offensively Jair Camargo went 2-4 with a double and his 2nd HR, Jacob Amaya went 2-4 with his 1st professional HR, and Shakir Albert went 2-4 with a double and his 2nd HR. This was Jacob Amaya’s 1st multi hit professional game.

    1. AC

      I heard one of the Giant’s announcers, is calling the Little League World Series.

      You can tell your Giant friends, that their anouncer, is finally calling a game, for a really good team, this year.

  21. DODGERS REINSTATE ADRIÁN GONZÁLEZ

    LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles Dodgers today reinstated first baseman Adrián González (lumbar disc herniation) from the 60-day disabled list and optioned infielder/outfielder Rob Segedin to Triple-A Oklahoma City.

    González went 6-for-31 with a homer and six RBI during a nine-game rehab assignment with Single-A Rancho Cucamonga and Triple-A Oklahoma City and last appeared in a big-league game on June 11. In 49 games with Los Angeles this season, he’s hit .255 with 11 doubles, a homer and 23 RBI, and enters tonight’s game just four hits shy of 2,000 for his career.

    Segedin appeared in just one game with Los Angeles after being reinstated from the DL (right great toe strain and right wrist surgery), and has gone 1-for-7 in three games with the Dodgers this year.

  22. My guess on the lineup:

    1. Taylor LF
    2. Seager SS
    3. Turner 3B
    4. Bellinger 1B
    5. Grandal C
    6. A Gon DH
    7. Pederson CF
    8. Puig RF
    9. Utley 2B

    1. Putting the two speedsters together (Grandal and A Gon) could be interesting. Hopefully Doc will load them up on those 5-hour energy drinks.

  23. Around and stuff:
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    Old friend Jharel Cotton’s most recent outing is representative of his season. Good, bad and the ugly. After a bad first two innings that saw him give up two runs, Cotton seemed to get back on track. The rookie’s changeup that seemed to be missing over the past month had returned to form. What transpired in the sixth was just plain ugly as Cotton’s run of good pitching lasted a grand total of three innings when he then he gave up a grand slam to Cam Gallagher.
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    Cotton has allowed four runs or more in nine of his 18 starts this season as he fell to 5-10 with his ERA ballooning to 5.92.
    .
    Schebler was activated today after a DL and rehab stint.
    .
    Jose Peraza worked on a swing tweak with the Reds hitting coach and is 20-for-53 (.377) with a .419 on-base percentage, seven RBI and seven runs through his past 18 games.
    .
    One time fan trade target Mike Leake has really fallen on hard times:
    A year after posting a 9-12 record with a career-high 4.69 ERA, Leake is 7-11 with a respectable 3.88 ERA. His ERA is quite deceiving, though, because he has not been decent since May. He started the season with nine consecutive quality starts, posting a 5-2 record and 1.91 ERA in that span. Over the next 15 starts, though, he has only four quality starts. He was 1-3 with a 4.30 ERA in June, 1-3 with a 4.76 ERA in July and 0-2 with an 8.80 ERA in August. He gave up eight runs in 4 1/3 innings Tuesday night in the loss against Boston after giving up four runs in five innings in his previous start.
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    Leake has a no-trade clause and, even worse for the Cardinals, three years and $53 million remaining on the five-year, $80 million contract the team gave him after the 2016 season.

    The great Eric Longenhagen has an updated top 10 Dodgers prospect list:
    1. Walker Buehler, RHP
    2. Alex Verdugo, OF
    3. Yadier Alvarez, RHP
    4. Yusniel Diaz, OF
    5. Jeren Kendall, OF
    6. Mitch White, RHP
    7. Starling Heredia, OF
    8. Will Smith, C
    9. Keibert Ruiz, C
    10. Dustin May, RHP
    .
    FanGraphs also had a nice writeup on LoCastro in their Fringe Five:
    Tim Locastro, 2B/OF, Los Angeles NL (Profile)
    Locastro first appeared among the Five in July of 2015, shortly after having been traded to the Dodgers from Toronto in exchange for an international bonus-pool slot. At the time, he was much more fringe than prospect. The infielder had been selected in the 13th round of the 2013 draft out of leafy Ithaca College, a school whose most recent major leaguer, Glen Cook, recorded 40.0 innings and a -0.7 WAR in 1985, a year that marked not only his rookie campaign but also his final season. Whatever its virtues, in other words, Ithaca hasn’t proven much as a “baseball factory.”
    .
    Locastro, for his part, has proven to be a pretty useful ballplayer. The combination of contact skills and defensive ability that first earned him a place among the Five remain. Currently, however, he’s exhibiting them not for Division III school or Cal League team but rather the Dodgers’ Triple-A affiliate. In 82 appearances for Oklahoma City, he’s produced walk and strikeout rates of 6.1% and 13.4%, respectively, plus a .181 isolated-power figure and 10-for-11 stolen-base record. The 168 wRC+ mark he’s posted would place second of all qualified Triple-A batters — ahead, for example, of power-hitting Rhys Hoskins, who was just basically given Philadelphia’s left-field job. Despite sliding a bit down the positional spectrum as he’s ascended minor-league levels, Locastro appears capable of still providing positive defensive value.

  24. I Just read the Dodgers sent a contingent of Orel Hershier and Andrew Friedman, to visit Otani in Japan.

  25. The ‘Kid’ goes back to work… I had hoped they could have talked him into another one , but how sweet it is to be 22!!! I think I was that once!??! Let me see 1968, I was, hell, lucky to be alive… Nam and R&R… Yikes!!!

    1. Joc can’t really jump, so he can’t really time his jump.

      The day off was will worth it, with 4 quick runs!

  26. What a team we have.
    One inning to erase a 2-0 deficit and turn it into a 4-2 lead.
    Incredible.
    Joc trying another stance & swing…

      1. I’m probably the worst one to try to make sense out of anything, but ?joc needs to start hitting

        1. Forsythe just getting hot and an .OBP over .370 now will be affected too. CG is a great clubhouse guy but this could cause some ripples in the team chemistry.

      2. Looks like a take no prisoners move. He is good in the clubhouse, kills right handed pitching and doesn’t end up in Washington. They have Harper and Worth on the DL. He also has a career ops over 1.000 against Arrieta, and over .900 against Scherzer and Roark . It also looks like Pederson is on a very hot seat.

  27. Vs righties:
    Taylor 2B
    Seager SS
    Turner 3B
    Belly LF
    Granderson CF
    Gonzo 1B
    Grandal
    Puig RF
    Vs Lefties:
    Taylor CF
    Seager SS
    Turner 3B
    Belly 1B
    Kike LF
    Forsythe 2B
    Barnes C
    Puig RF

    Joc To AAA until Sept 1 and Forsythe out against righties would be my guess. No guarantees for Andre to make playoff roster. Could another move be coming?

  28. Right now I don’t see where Granderson fits on the Dodgers. However, it’s late in NY (about 2:30 am), and my brain cells are on lockdown.


    Granderson could be a threat to Joc, but that would probably mean Taylor would move to CF, since Granderson can no longer play that position. It could also be the prelude to a larger deal that could be in the works (Stanton???????). If Joc is replaced, does that mean he could be included in that larger deal? Or could it be someone else on the current 25-man, since right now I don’t have a clue as to who Granderson would be replacing. Best guess is that we’ll find out in the coming days.

  29. Exciting news to wake up to.
    A win and a new player.
    I don’t think there is a need to over think this move, other than FAZ sees it like most of us, in that Joc is just not producing.
    They have given him a good shot, but Granderson is a definite upgrade.
    Remember about this time last year when they traded AJ for Ruiz for his post season potential?
    This is more of the same – giving us an even better shot st a WS.

    Brooklyn – if it’s the pre cursor to a bigger move (Stanton), then we really are going “All In”.

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